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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 01:56 AM
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U.S. government opposes release of prisoner abuse photos
Source: Associated Press

The U.S. government has asked a federal appeals court to reconsider its order to release 21 pictures of detainees in Iraq and Afghanistan, saying it could jeopardize the safety of U.S. troops.

Government lawyers said in papers made public Friday that the issue was of "exceptional importance."

In September, a three-judge panel of the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ordered the United States to give the pictures to the American Civil Liberties Union. Now the government has asked all 12 judges on the court to hear its case.

In the court papers, the government said release of the pictures would pose a grave risk of inciting violence and riots against American troops and coalition forces.

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/11/07/detainee-pictures.html
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 02:05 AM
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1. Thanks for this article. nt
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 03:14 AM
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2. Maybe they should have thought of that before they made it policy
What a disgusting country I live in.

"For the People, By the People" - unless you live in reality.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 03:24 AM
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3. The criminals who gave the orders to let this happen are using
the troops as a scapegoat again.

The monsters are afraid that if the truth is seen, the world will demand that they pay for their war crimes.
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BunkerHill24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:48 AM
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4. This must be told......K&R
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 05:10 AM
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5. Bush and his lackeys care far less about the welfare of the U.S. men stationed abroad
than they do about being revealed to the entire world as the absolute monsters they are.

This IS all about saving their images and most surely not about saving soldiers from retaliation. If they cared about protecting American soldiers they NEVER would have sent them to a completely bogus war to kill innocent people, they NEVER would have forced them to serve multiple tours in Iraq, they NEVER would have tried to shortchange them financially, withhold proper medical treatment when they got home, they never would have insisted on sneaking in their dead bodies under cover of night to keep the country in the dark about how many of them they were really sending to their deaths.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 05:27 AM
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6. I didn't know the Pentagon played backsies!
The government that put troops into battle in Iraq and Afghanistan and tortured prisoners is worried that torturing prisoners will result in Afghans and Iraqis using violence against our soldiers?

Our government has turned into a fucking palindrome
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Swagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 05:43 AM
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7. the truth will (and must) always out !! let us see the shame
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 06:45 AM
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8. Why can't the govt classify them to prevent release?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 08:04 AM
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9. the iraqi`s already know what the americans did
the real reason is the pictures will be evidence in a future war crime trials...
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Caretha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 09:12 AM
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12. Of course they already know
It's the vast majority of Americans that don't have a clue. TPTB aren't afraid of backlash on our troops....they're afraid of the American people ever finding out.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:33 AM
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18. I'd say that is about...hmmm...ohhh...
100% absolutely correct.
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 08:19 AM
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10. Prisoner Torture and 911... the truth IS going to be told....
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 08:43 AM
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11. five years of obstruction
ends in two months
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sugapablo Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 09:57 AM
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13. Actually...
I could see an argument if they said they wanted to protect the VICTIMS in this case. I mean, if you were tortured and abused (possibly sexually) at the hands of a foreign invader, would you want the photos of it displayed all around the world?

Too bad our compassionate government never mentioned such things. :(
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:08 AM
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14. they can digitally obscure identifying features and still release the photos
It is not so much WHO it happened to , as what was being done to prisoners IN OUR NAMES.

Release the photos.
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sugapablo Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:38 AM
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19. still...
I don't know about you, but it those were photos of ME...I can't be sure I'd want them released. DEFINITELY not if they were photos of my children, no matter what was "obscured".

Again though, that doesn't seem to be a concern of the current administration. :(
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:32 AM
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24. If it was me...
and those pics helped hang the Bu$h crime family, I'd release them myself.
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FedUpWithIt All Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:11 AM
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15. The longer this goes on the more i am convinced it is related to the child abuse Hersch mentioned.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:12 AM
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16. "inciting violence and riots" ... 'cause that isn't happening already in Iraq, right?
:eyes:
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:32 AM
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17. How can PHOTOS "jeopardize the safety of US troops", fuckwits???
It's the ACTIONS that jeopardize the safety of U.S. troops.

JFC.

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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:54 AM
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20. Only this sort of drastic intervention wil build the support we need
to get rid of these entrenched monsters.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 11:04 AM
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21. Maybe the issue
isn't the pictorial content of those being tortured but those doing the torturing.:shrug:
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Gadzooks1 Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 11:56 AM
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22. More likely it would
jeopardize American politicians and appointed government officials. Publish the pictures. It's about time we were all ashamed of what we have done.
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 11:59 AM
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23. No surprise. Most criminals oppose having evidence presented against
them. The surprise would be if a court bought that evidence of a crime enraging victims of a crime should be not admitted for that reason.

Ol' Charlie Manson would be walking around free if this line of reasoning had any validity at all.....
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