Indonesia 'executes' Bali bombers

[Eugene]

Source: BBC News

Page last updated at 18:45 GMT,
Saturday, 8 November 2008

Indonesia 'executes' Bali bombers

Three Islamic militants condemned to death for the
2002 Bali bombings which killed 202 people have been
executed by firing squad, their lawyers say.

Imam Samudra, 38, Amrozi Nurhasyim, 47, and Ali
Ghufron (Mukhlas), 48, died from shots to the heart
on the island prison of Nusakambangan, local TV said.

They were found guilty of planning twin attacks on
nightclubs at the resort of Kuta, popular with Western
tourists.

There has been no official confirmation of the
executions.

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Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7717819.stm

[peruban]

1. Justice?

Sounds right. Who am I to judge anyway?

[Eugene]

2. Reuters: Indonesia confirms execution of three Bali bombers

Source: Reuters

Indonesia confirms execution of three Bali bombers
08 Nov 2008 19:36:16 GMT

JAKARTA, Nov 9 (Reuters) - Indonesia on Sunday
executed three Muslim militants sentenced to death
for the 2002 Bali nightclub bombings that killed
202 people, the attorney-general's office said.

Jasman Pandjaitan, a spokesman for the attorney-
general's office, told a news conference the three
men -- Imam Samudra, Mukhlas and Amrozi -- were
executed by firing squad on Nusakambangan island
in central Java shortly after midnight. (Reporting
by Olivia Rondonuwu; Writing by Ed Davies)

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/JAK409889.htm

[stahbrett]

3. Why the quotes around the word execute?

They actually executed them, correct?

[AndyTiedye]

5. Maybe the Firing Squad Weren't Very Good Shots

[ohio2007]

8. Some people are against the "death penalty" no matter what those martyrs 'allegedly' did

the backlash will be an under reported Tsunami world wide most likely.

[Eugene]

11. Standard BBC practice when using non-authoritative sources.

At the time of the OP, their lawyers announced it
but the Indonesian government had not confirmed
it yet.

[stahbrett]

12. I guess the BBC updated their web page then... no quotes now (nt)

[Rancid Crabtree]

4. I am waiting for the silent majority of peaceful Islam

...to take a stand and raise their voice against radical Islam...sure, some are doing just that...it needs to be repeated...ignoring it isn't going to make it go away...and doing nothing only allows the extreme element to continue on its path unopposed.

[Warren Stupidity]

6. Yo! The Islamic government of Indonesia just executed these idiots.

Does that not go quite far enough in condemning them? Would you like the people's representatives in Indonesia to execute them twice perhaps?

Wait, let me guess, all terrorists are muslims, right?

[Rancid Crabtree]

13. There's another thread...

...I think it's called "Muslim clerics endorse anti-terrorist fatwas"...and no, "all terrorists are muslims, right?" are your words...you own them, not me...the trick, I guess, is to realize the parallels between radical Islam and Nazi Germany...their methods, their goals...it's troubling that in this country a boy can be sent home for dressing as Jesus on Halloween...while Islamic youth are openly being taught to hate...to die for Allah...we need more of what the clerics in India have done...wouldn't you think?

[Warren Stupidity]

15. Ah yes Islamofacism

you have done your homework. There are no pertinent parallels between Nazi Germany and Islamic fundamentalism. There are plenty of obvious and pertinent parallels between Islamic fundamentalism and our own home-grown Christian fundamentalists.

But please do list the parallels between the highly organized modern industrial totalitarian fascist state of Germany circa 1933-1945, and the stateless Islamic fundamentalist terrorist organizations such as al Qaeda.

Or perhaps you were referring to the theocratic shiite regime of Iran?

You need to turn the rightwing bullshit machine off, it is hurting your brain.

[Rancid Crabtree]

16. What would be the point of doing as you ask?

I refer to the teaching by Radical Islam to the youth in their care that it is a good thing to die for Allah...a form of child abuse, I think...or do you prefer that people say nothing, allow it to fester, and grow...and perhaps sign agreements, as has been done in the past...only to awaken to more killing of innocents...I'm going to assume that the clerics in India that issued a fatwas against terror know what they speak about...perhaps you're willing to listen to them, instead of moi?...check out that thread, if you haven't already...and hey, I only listen to AM when I'm in the shop...it's all the work radio can pick up, out here in the penniless wilds....

[Warren Stupidity]

17. Generally when one makes a claim one is required to back it up.

"the trick, I guess, is to realize the parallels between radical Islam and Nazi Germany."

please do list them.

[Rancid Crabtree]

19. You bet!

I don't have a list for you, as yet...but no work today...the ground is snow covered...and I'll get right on it...God, it's great, this feeling of being attended to!...at the risk of sounding inarticulate here's a couple off the top of my head...one, world domination...two, hate, radical Islam teaches it's okay to hate certain groups, usually non-Muslims...do they call them koffars? or something...(but Muslims who aren't as fanatic as they are can fill the bill for them)...three, their philosophy is allowed, ignored, denied...(Neville Chamberlain coming back with a piece of paper, peace in our time...Yassar Arafat, shaking hands in the Rose Garden, extorting his fellow terrorists a day later)...there's more, but I don't usually take notes on what I read, listen to, etc...but that's the short list for now.

[Rancid Crabtree]

23. I'm so easily called away...

...so I haven't gotten around to the list, per your request...but I another parallel dawned on my as I posted on another thread...the concept of jihad, or self struggle...and mein kamph, my struggle...

[JosephPeter]

18. Islam and Christianity

To state that there are obvious and pertinent parallels between Islamic fundamentalism and our own home-grown Christian fundamentalists paints with a pretty broad brush. They are actually quite different belief systems.

[Warren Stupidity]

20. Well it depends on what you mean by 'quite different'.

All three of the major Western religions are closely related. Of course they differ in many details, but this wasn't really a theological discussion. The political aspirations of fundamentalist political organizations are all quite similar: they seek to impose their narrow orthodoxy on all of society through some sort of authoritarian theocratic state. The taliban and our own fundaloons have quite a lot in common.

[ohio2007]

9. the vocal minority will intimidate them into silence until the majority

falls in line and lock steps

[ohio2007]

7. ..and that should be the end of that.....

http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2008/11/08/rivers.indonesia.execution.cnn

Wonder how many non muslims will pay the ultimate price when word spreads about this "injustice" after friday prayers ;)

the killing of these martyrs will only upset the clerics.
what ? nobody saw this day after prayer day as the optimum day to put them to sleep ?

Wait til novemebr 15th for follow up stories and its best that the president elect avoid commenting on all this bali who.

just a gut feeling

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

10. state sponsored martyrdom

does anyone ever stop and contemplate why Israel doesn't execute captured terrorists?

[Coventina]

14. Bali bombers buried in emotional ceremonies

http://www.reuters.com/article/wtMostRead/idUSTRE4A72OX20081109

TENGGULUN, Indonesia (Reuters) - Three Indonesian militants executed on Sunday for the 2002 Bali bombings were buried by their families at ceremonies attended by thousands of supporters shouting "Allahu akbar" (God is greatest).

Some analysts had warned of a hardline backlash but the funerals went off relatively peacefully, despite some scuffles with police and reporters.

The three men from the militant group Jemaah Islamiah -- Imam Samudra, 38, Mukhlas, 48, and Amrozi, 46 -- were executed by firing squad on Nusakambangan island in central Java shortly after midnight, the attorney-general's office said.

[Coventina]

21. Delays may have fueled sympathy for Bali bombers

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jarSVzHp6A3bt3xlvhsZ0Bmv8EIwD94C2T1G2

TENGGULUN, Indonesia (AP) — Indonesia mishandled the Bali bomber case, enabling three death-row inmates to foment an image as Islamic martyrs and raising security concerns, experts said Monday.

The convicts urged retaliation for their pending deaths in countless TV interviews broadcast to a national audience before they were executed by firing squad early Sunday. Images of the men praying or meeting with relatives further fueled public sympathy.

But their executions are not believed to have heightened the terrorism threat in the world's most populous Muslim nation — still considered a potential target because fugitives of the Jemaah Islamiyah Southeast Asian terror network remain on the loose.

During five years of legal battles, Imam Samudra, 38, and brothers Amrozi Nurhasyim, 47, and Ali Ghufron, 48, admitted planning and assisting the Oct. 12, 2002, Bali nightclub attacks — allegedly funded by al-Qaida and carried out by Jemaah Islamiyah.

[Coventina]

22. Indonesia handling of Bali executions questioned

http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-36418920081110

JAKARTA (Reuters) - Indonesia's handling of the executions of three militants for the 2002 Bali bombings caused unnecessary suffering for victims of the blasts and helped fan domestic passions, Indonesian media said on Monday.

The three men from the militant Islamist group Jemaah Islamiah -- Imam Samudra, Mukhlas, and Amrozi -- were executed by firing squad on Sunday for the 2002 nightclub attacks that killed 202 people, including 88 Australians and 38 Indonesians.

Just days ahead of the executions, the bombers gave interviews to several television channels, often sounding defiant and calling for more attacks.

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Why give these idiots a platform to spread their hate??!?!?!?