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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 06:15 PM
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Postelection poll results contradict media claims that U.S. is a "center-right" country
Source: Media Matters for America

Several in the media have claimed that President-elect Barack Obama won the election because he ran as a conservative and that notwithstanding Obama's victory, the United States is a conservative country. In claiming that Obama ran as a conservative, these media figures ignore the central components of his platform, including repeal of tax cuts for the wealthy, near-universal health-care coverage, and redeployment of troops from Iraq to Afghanistan. Democracy Corps, a Democratic polling group, released a poll on November 7 that showed strong support for the positions that Obama has articulated on these issues. The poll also included questions that provided a direct choice between the position taken by Obama on a given issue and that taken by Sen. John McCain (without referring to Obama or McCain) -- with the more progressive choice echoing Obama's position and the more conservative echoing McCain's. For most questions that juxtaposed a clear progressive view with a clear conservative view, the progressive position was more popular. A list of positions Obama took on major issues during the campaign makes it clear that he did not run as a conservative, and the Democracy Corps poll results rebut the claim that Obama ran as a conservative and that the United States is a conservative country.

Democracy Corps polled 2,000 voters November 4-5 and posed several questions as direct contrasts between a conservative approach and a progressive approach, some of which were directly drawn from the arguments made by Obama and McCain. The poll asked which statement "comes closer to your own view, even if neither is exactly right."...

Social Security

The Democracy Corps survey asked respondents to choose between one statement on Social Security, "We need to reform Social Security and protect it to ensure that it's a safety net the American people can count on," and a second, more conservative statement: "We need to reform Social Security and establish personal savings accounts so individuals have more options." The first statement, supported by 63 percent of respondents, is similar to Obama's proposal to "protect Social Security" and "ensure Social Security is solvent and viable for the American people, now and in the future." The second statement, involving Social Security private accounts, was supported by 35 percent of respondents. As recently as July 8, McCain said on CNN's American Morning that he supports allowing workers to divert part of their payroll taxes into private accounts: "I want young workers to be able to, if they so choose, to take part of their own money, which is their taxes, and put it into an account, which has their name on it. Now, that's a voluntary thing, it's for younger people. It would not affect any -- any present-day retirees or the system as necessary."

Health care

Regarding health care, the Democracy Corps survey offered a relatively progressive statement, which was supported by 58 percent of respondents: "Our health care system needs fundamental reform, we should regulate insurance companies and give everyone a choice between a public plan or what they have right now." This statement is similar to Obama's proposal for health-care reform, which "requires insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions"; allows individuals to keep their current health-care coverage if they choose to do so; and establishes "a National Health Insurance Exchange with a range of private insurance options as well as a new public plan based on benefits available to members of Congress that will allow individuals and small businesses to buy affordable health coverage." The other statement offered by the survey -- "Our health care system needs fundamental reform; we should give American families more choice by giving individuals a tax credit to choose their own coverage" -- was supported by 38 percent of respondents. That relatively conservative statement was similar to McCain's proposal: "While still having the option of employer-based coverage, every family will receive a direct refundable tax credit -- effectively cash -- of $2,500 for individuals and $5,000 for families to offset the cost of insurance. Families will be able to choose the insurance provider that suits them best and the money would be sent directly to the insurance provider."...

Priorities

The Democracy Corps survey also specifically tested many of the policies Obama has proposed, asking voters whether each should be "the SINGLE highest priority, one of the TOP FEW priorities, but not the highest, NEAR THE TOP of the list, in the MIDDLE OF THE LIST, or TOWARD THE BOTTOM of the list of priorities for the new president." If a respondent actually disagreed with an item on the agenda, he or she would presumably place the goal "toward the bottom of the list of priorities." The data demonstrate that the public appears to want action on many of the key pieces of Obama's agenda.

Among the proposals the survey presented that a majority of respondents considered at least "near the top" of their priorities:

"Repeal the Bush tax cuts for those making over 250,000 dollars and cut taxes for middle class families and anyone making under 200,000 dollars."...

"Make health insurance affordable and accessible to all Americans."...

"End the war in Iraq responsibly and redeploy our troops from Iraq to Afghanistan."...

"Repeal tax breaks that benefit companies that move jobs overseas."...

"End dependence on foreign oil by 2025 by requiring one quarter of U.S. electric power to come from alternative energy where new investments will create new jobs."...

"Make job-creating investments in America's aging roads and transportation systems and stimulate new economic activity."...

Read more: http://mediamatters.org/items/200811070013?f=h_latest
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 06:45 PM
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1. In 2004, the MAJORITY of REPUBLICS thought Kerry's stance on issues were
Edited on Sat Nov-08-08 06:48 PM by LynnTheDem
GEORGE W. bUSH'S stance on issues.




This country hasn't been "center-right" in years.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 05:40 PM
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14. I would venture that it has NEVER been C-R.
That graph is telling and pathetic.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 06:46 PM
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2. OMIGOD!! They're all socialists!!!!!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 06:48 PM
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3. AMERICA IS LEFT OF CENTER.... AND PROGRESSIVE
THE NOISE MACHINE HAS STARTED UP.

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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 08:42 PM
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8. You betcha.....
Haven't any of you seen the headlines on some Internet sites comparing Obama's victory to Reagan? All I could think of was, geez, they just can't stand it that the progressives won an overwhelming victory so they start feeding people the crap that he had a "Reaganlike" win. It's up to us to correct these memes.
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 06:56 PM
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4. The right wing still has too much media power and their lies are
doing harm to America.

We need to be told the truth. Garbage in garbage out.

We can make excellent decisions with out being sold a pack of lies by RW tv, radio,and blogs.
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MNReformer Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 05:36 AM
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10. Seriously. It's making people schizophrenic.
The cognitive dissonance between what one perceives and what one is told is enough to drive you insane. And it is just plain dangerous, if not treasonous, to keep spouting the lies that the right-wing corporate media tell about what this country "believes in".
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 12:32 PM
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11. I always say,watch what they do, and take what they say in
balance. It's easy to see their lies when you compare.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 06:59 PM
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5. Guess what you stupid ,slow-footed media.. "The Center" ain't
where you THINK it is..

How's the idea of a National Health Plan polling these days...hmmm?
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 07:12 PM
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6. I'm so sick and tired of the right owned media telling US what we think
who we are and what we should do about it.

Theirs is a distorted mirror, selling us lies, lies and more lies.


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eagertolearn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 07:15 PM
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7. Media say what ever they want to say and hope it becomes the truth.
Republicans can't even get it right when describing Obama. My mom tried to tell me today that Obama will take away the 1st admendment away immediately so that no one can say anything bad about him. I thought she was kidding and then realized she was serious. Where are they getting this stuff? That is the opposite of what Obama and the democratic party stands for!
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MNReformer Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 05:25 AM
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9. Quick! Someone tell Pelosi.
Of course it isn't. The elections have been RIGGED and Democratic voters have been suppressed. Throw out the "results" about who won the last few elections. They're bunk.
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MNReformer Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:43 PM
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12. Go to Election Defense Alliance and see their study of the polls
MORE proof that our elections have been stolen--and in fact six million of our votes were stolen or suppressed THIS time.
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crossroads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 02:02 PM
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13. 3 Words - WTF?
:wtf:
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 06:32 PM
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15. Cenk is right.
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