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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 02:57 PM
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Monks brawl before religious ceremony
Source: CNN

An unusual sight greeted Jerusalem police as they entered one of Christianity's holiest sites Sunday morning: dozens of monks punching and kicking each other in a massive brawl.
Israeli police scuffle with an Armenian monk Sunday at the Church of the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem.

Israeli police scuffle with an Armenian monk Sunday at the Church of the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem.
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Monks from the Greek Orthodox and Armenian denominations were preparing for a ceremony at the Church of the Holy Sepulcher in the Old City when a disagreement led to a full-fledged fistfight.

The fight began when Armenian clergy were holding a procession to commemorate the finding of the cross believed to have been used in the crucifixion of Jesus, according to The Associated Press.

The Greek members of the clergy wanted one of their monks present, the AP reported, for fear that the procession would undermine their claim to an ancient structure built on what is believed to be the tomb of Jesus.

The two sides could not agree, and when the Armenians tried to begin the procession, the Greek monks stepped in and the fighting began, the AP reported.
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Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/11/09/israel.brawling.monks/index.html



wow , not sure this is LBN material , but its damn funny
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 02:58 PM
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1. This seems to be a Christmas tradition.
Happened last year too.
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Veritas_et_Aequitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 02:59 PM
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Sadly, it happens every year. nt
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 06:47 PM
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20. I'm assuming it happens right after the "airing of grievances."
:eyes:
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 02:59 PM
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2. "God is on OUR side." - Brawlers
Edited on Sun Nov-09-08 03:01 PM by SpiralHawk
Hate is love.
War is peace.
Ignorance is strength.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 03:04 PM
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3. I was hit with imagery of a bunch of Friar Tuck sorts belly bouncing each other
Now I feel like I need a beer - and it isn't even 5:00 yet!
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 08:19 PM
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21. Ah, beer!
Which was brewed by monks during the Middle Ages. Think about that when you hoist your glass!
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 03:10 PM
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4. It's the Jews who keep the Christian sects from killing each other at their holy sites in Jerusalem
Or as we say in our mixed home: Oy To The World. :eyes:

Hekate


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TexasProgresive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 03:28 PM
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9. Before that it was the Ottoman's
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 03:09 AM
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23. They should stop.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 03:10 AM
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25. That would be wrong. nt
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 03:17 AM
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26. As long as their is no innocent bystanders, as far as I'm concerned...
they can all kill each other, they all seem to want to, and what do we say about the rights of consenting adults?
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 03:14 PM
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5. Shaolin fighting monks are way cooler
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 03:15 PM
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6. No pacifists or trappists in these orders, apparently.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 03:15 PM
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7. What isn't mentioned there,
but was mentioned in our TV news coverage, is that in an effort to prevent this likely event from occuring the keys are held by two Muslims.......lol.
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 03:25 PM
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8. Well, that's a good thing, isn't it?
Monks SHOULD brawl more, as should priests, ministers, rabbis and holy people of all sorts.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 03:38 PM
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11. Better they themselves fight, than that they send their followers off to war. n/t
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 03:37 PM
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10. I would pay money to see monks fighting. Or nuns wrestling in Holy Jello.
Edited on Sun Nov-09-08 03:39 PM by IanDB1



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Cronopio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 03:43 PM
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12. "Brothers, we should be struggling together." "We are!"
Edited on Sun Nov-09-08 03:52 PM by OmelasExpat
Religion and testosterone - not a good mix.

Time to try the decaf, fellas.
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BadGimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 03:48 PM
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13. I was just imagining an SNL skit with Monks throwing gang signs shit..
:)

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JimboBillyBubbaBob Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 04:01 PM
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14. ???
Holy Shit!!! What else can I say?
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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 04:03 PM
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15. Monk Fight!!!
Nothing quite like some monks mixin' it up.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 04:15 PM
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16. You Tube: Raw Video: Monks Brawl at Christian Holy Site
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 04:47 PM
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17. Religion at work!
Praise be to the gods, from Allah to Zeus!
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 06:05 PM
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18. I keep getting this odd Kung Fu- West Side Story rumble thing in my head...
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 06:36 PM
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19. Imagine that its not the Jews & Palestinians fighting for a change...
Can't we all just get along? This is the "Holy Land".
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 01:25 AM
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22. Monks have been fighting each other...
Edited on Mon Nov-10-08 01:33 AM by seawolf
...since about five minutes after someone established a second monastic order. It's a tradition. And frankly, I'm glad they're fighting among themselves -- that way, they won't go after atheists, people of other religions or secular members of other Christian denominations.

Have any videos of the actual event (not the cops hauling them off) surfaced yet? I'd like to watch them pummel each other.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 03:10 AM
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24. So when does this end up on Pay-Per-View?
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:16 AM
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27. But...WHAT ABOUT THE LADDER!?
The feud is only one of a bewildering array of rivalries among churchmen in the Holy Sepulcher.

The Israeli government has long wanted to build a fire exit in the church, which regularly fills with thousands of pilgrims and has only one main door, but the sects cannot agree where the exit will be built.

A ladder placed on a ledge over the entrance sometime in the 19th century has remained there ever since because of a dispute over who has the authority to take it down.

More recently, a spat between Ethiopian and Coptic Christians is delaying badly needed renovations to a rooftop monastery that engineers say could collapse.
:rofl:
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:05 AM
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28. Greeks claim to be the spiritual heirs of the first Christians; Armenia, the first officially
Christian nation. So, it's only natural they would fight like anything over the cross at Jesus burial site.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:10 AM
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29. Oops. Forgot to add [sarcasm]
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 12:55 PM
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30. This is too funny!
I suppose none of them see the irony in this, do they?
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