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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 05:16 PM
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Study: Deadly stomach bug more common than thought
Source: Ledger-Enquirer

ATLANTA --
A nasty, sometimes deadly stomach bug is at least six times more common than was thought, researchers said Tuesday, based on a survey of hundreds of U.S. hospitals.

The germ, Clostridium difficile, is resistant to some antibiotics and has become a regular menace in hospitals and nursing homes. Doctors say it plays a role in hundreds of thousands of hospitalizations each year, and that number has been growing.

The latest study estimates that more than 7,100 hospital patients are infected with it on any given day. That number is between 6.5 and 20 times greater than previous estimates, according to the Association for Professionals in Infection Control and Epidemiology. Researchers from that group presented their findings Tuesday at a medical conference in Orlando.

"This study shows that C. difficile infection is an escalating issue in our nation's health care facilities," said Dr. William Jarvis, the study's lead investigator, in a prepared statement. Jarvis, formerly a scientist with the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, is a consulting epidemiologist hired by the association.

The study suggests that about 13 per 1,000 hospital patients have the germ.

The bacteria are found in the colon and can cause diarrhea and a more serious intestinal condition known as colitis. It can be deadly, particularly to the elderly, and has been blamed in outbreaks that have killed as many as 100 people at some hospitals.

Read more: http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/251/story/506834.html
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 05:22 PM
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1. My whole life I've never had a stomach flu.....
That was until last year when I had two particularly nasty ones hit me. One was at a birthday party (in which everybody got sick) and the other came seemingly out of nowhere.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 05:26 PM
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2. I hate that. You are really sick if
you don't know which end to put over the commode.
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 05:45 PM
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3. yeah, or if you have to keep switching.....
Ugh, I probably should've went to the hospital but I didn't.
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Itchinjim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 07:45 PM
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7. That's why I keep a big wastebasket in my bathroom.
You never know when they're going to come in REAL handy.
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 10:09 AM
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14. you betcha ....sticking face in commode will make you more sick n/t
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Terry in Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 10:47 AM
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17. Sometimes known as "loose ends"
x(
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 12:20 PM
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20. We had a stomach bug hit the UK last December
My husband got it first then I did, unfortunately on the day we were due to go back to Birmingham from Cardiff. So it was me vomiting the rest of the way and trying to hold my other end in.

Everyone we knew got the bug someway or another in the UK. We caught it from his brother's family (who had it a couple of weeks ago).
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 06:01 PM
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4. I think people don't actually realize how
deadly those things can be.

My last bout with a stomach bug was in 1997 or thereabouts.

I must have lost 10 lbs or more in just three days

and the PAIN!!!!


definitely not something the elderly or people with compromised immune systems want to end up with....


:scared:
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 09:05 AM
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13. Buddy of mine called an ambulance for himself late Sat. night.
non-stop diarrhea, pain, etc.


Nasty stuff.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 07:28 PM
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5. I've been fighting this particular bug
for almost two months. It's not really a stomach bug. It attacks your gut and causes explosive diahrea. It often follows treatment wih intravenous antibiotics, which kill off the normal bacteria that make your bowels work. This thing moves into that sterile environment and procedes to raise hell. Chemo can have the same effect. It responds only to vancomicin, and that doesn't always work. This is one you can't ignore.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 07:36 PM
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6. Eat natural yogurt n buttermilk for acidopholus.
nt
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marybourg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 08:08 PM
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8. It can even follow oral antibiotics
taken for just a few days for dental procedures (happened to me)or minor office surgery (happened to my neighbor). It's not limited to older folks either. 20 healthy young women, some of them pregnant, died in Canada of c.diff colitis last year. If a doc or dentist wants to give you an antibiotic, especially clindamycin or a penicillin, ask whether it's absolutely necessary. Hope you're better soon, pscot.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 08:12 PM
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9. I'm antibiotic free and hopeful
but I thought I was over it a month ago too. I'm guardedly optimistic.
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 10:37 AM
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15. Sorry to hear that.
Was just going to post that antimicrobials are part of the cause - but you beat me to it.

Systemic antibiotics and antifungals and are a mixed blessing
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doodadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 10:42 PM
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10. Well, that's weird........
I vaccinate my pygmy goats with anti-clostridium, and have vaccinated my horses for it in the past. Vets will tell you they can contract disease just from eating hay/grass off the ground. It lives in the soil.

So I'm thinking.....why can't you vaccinate humans for this? There's a number of similar situations.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 08:01 AM
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11. I've got that now
A "mild" case of C-Diff.

It's not a fun bug to get.

I used to work in health care and we were all paranoid of C-Diff, since there are several strains that can, and do, kill the host within a few hours. (Mine, fortunately, is barely causing a fever.)

Worms are also quite common in hospitals now. My grandmother probably had a case of hospital-vectored worms when she died. I took care of her at home, and developed them, too.

I blame the ubiquity of pre-sterilized materials; in-house sterilization has become a rarity, and a small sterility failure can turn into a building-wide epidemic. And delicate electronics devices aren't thoroughly sterilized at all -- particularly colonoscopes.

--p!
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 11:08 AM
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19. Please check your PM...
:hi:
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 08:25 AM
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12. Anything that tastes as nasty as the "food" they bring you in the
hospital can't be good for you. I always fake getting better when I'm in there, so I can hurry up and get out and get some real food, instead of that cardboard tasting swill. That stuff don't just attack your taste buds, it smells bad too. I think the stinky bad tasting hospital food, is the very reason, that you see so damned many sick people in those places.
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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 10:40 AM
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16. My daughter was diagnosed with this when she was 2.5 and it was an ordeal,
Edited on Wed Nov-12-08 10:42 AM by electron_blue
which is probably and understatement, to bring it under control. Here's a health tip: when you're on antibiotics, eliminate all extraneous white sugar and starches that you can. It'll help reduce your risk of developing a C-diff attack.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 10:53 AM
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18. Wow... "difficult" bacteria...
Can take advantage of antibiotic treatment which essentially eliminates competition.

That alone is serious reason for concern.
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