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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 03:01 PM
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Could You Pass Obama's Background Check?
Edited on Thu Nov-13-08 03:03 PM by Freddie Stubbs
Source: WRTV-TV

President-Elect Tries To Weed Out Controversial Candidates

Applicants for President-elect Barack Obama's Cabinet get ready to chronicle your life story.

Those interested in joining Obama's administration have to pass an extensive background test.

The questionnaire, the New York Times reported, includes 63 requests for personal and professional records, some covering applicants’ spouses and grown children as well, that are forcing job-seekers to rummage from basements to attics, in shoe boxes, diaries and computer archives to document both their achievements and missteps, the Times said.

Obama wants applicants to “list all aliases or ‘handles’ you have used to communicate on the Internet,” and asks people to include any e-mail that might embarrass the president-elect, along with any blog posts and links to their Facebook.com pages.

Read more: http://www.theindychannel.com/money/17972140/detail.html#-
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 03:02 PM
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1. Nope
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 04:58 PM
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23. Since I have probably smoked about 6 acres of grass in my life
I'd say no. (I don't smoke anymore.)
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 05:16 PM
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29. 6 acres, huh. you got me beat!
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 05:35 PM
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34. Amatuer:)
If it were only legal...
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 06:30 PM
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41. I smoked six acres last weekend
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 06:33 PM
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43. Doood...
I could so use six acres right now!

:rofl:

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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 03:07 PM
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2. No way
I can think of at least a dozen things that I've done (probably more) that would probably knock me out and I've never been in any kind of trouble in my life.
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Shoedogg Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 05:18 PM
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30. Bye bye! n/t
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 05:34 PM
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31. Where was Obama really born, you ask?
You won't make it past 2 posts, I'll bet.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 05:38 PM
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35. LOL. Keep clinging onto that desperate fantasy, while we work on fixing the nation.
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cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 05:55 PM
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38. You are a freeper with a wardrobe malfunction !!! n/t
Edited on Thu Nov-13-08 05:57 PM by cosmicone
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 06:00 PM
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39. I wonder....
I wonder if you're a moron. Like where were YOU born? Oh wait, you are a moron, and a moron can't learn shit.

Never mind.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 03:07 PM
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3. "Holy Skull & Boner, Barackman, I am sooo screwn" - Commander AWOL
Edited on Thu Nov-13-08 03:15 PM by SpiralHawk
"I mean, when the Obamster finds out about my lurid, snarky posts on DU, and my soul-rotting occult republicon, um, ah, affiliations, I'll never get a job - guess I'll have to kick back and retire on Fatass TaxPayer Pension Payola at the Imperial Pig Farm Upon Crawford - Smirk"

- Commander AWOL
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 03:08 PM
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4. The real question is...
would you even want to fill out this form?
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 03:08 PM
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5. oh the emails i've sent...
the websites i've visited, the flamewars i've participated in, the horrible things maxsolomon has posted. it would turn your hair white. at least i'm always maxsolomon.

& this doesn't even approach scale of the reprehensible things i've done in meat world.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 03:09 PM
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6. At one time, I probably had very similar security check
Not sure if I would pass now.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 05:04 PM
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25. I went through a pretty tough one for a DoD clearance in 1982
I passed then and I was only 24 at the time, so I would probably pass the same check now.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 03:13 PM
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7. Good for him
They'll be looking for any and everything to bring down his presidency. The last thing he needs is somebody else's past coming back to bite him in the behind.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 03:15 PM
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8. Probably
They expect everyone to have something in their background, however the real purpose is to make sure that you don't have anything you can be blackmailed over. Even for NSA and other organizations, that is the main purpose in these things.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 05:05 PM
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26. That's exactly right
Vulnerability to blackmail is a very big issue. The other big one is honesty.
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uncle ray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 01:55 AM
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50. yup, i don't think questionable stuff will disqualify a person.
they just want to know in advance. i'd bet the usual youthful indiscretions like drug use will be of no consequence. after all, Obama is an admitted past drug user, why would he hold that against anybody in his staff?
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PunkinPi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 03:16 PM
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9. No, and "Joe the Plummer" wouldn't get past #2.
Edited on Thu Nov-13-08 03:17 PM by PunkinPi
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 03:29 PM
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10. They probably wouldn't care much for all my "strong words" here on DU
over the years. But those nude pics in college did me in decades ago, anyway, lol.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 03:29 PM
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11. Yes.
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Betsy Ross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 03:33 PM
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12. Not even a ghost of a chance.
But then again, if one doesn't mind the nude photos from 40 years ago taken while modelling for the San Francisco Art Institute being public then there should be no problem. LOL!
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NightHawk63 Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 03:34 PM
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13. Are you kidding??? Hell, I wouldn't hire me!
:evilgrin:
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amdezurik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 03:35 PM
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14. no way, no how, and wouldn't wanna
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 03:36 PM
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15. Yes. I have a securities license... the FBI already knows all about me...
Including my fingerprints.

I'm golden... touch wood!
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 05:06 PM
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27. I think they have three full sets of my prints now
DoD security clearance, bank employment, and one other I can't recall exactly what for.

I passed the background check for a Federal Firearms License in 2005.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 05:35 PM
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32. I've thought about the firearms license...
Since I have a good rep with the Feds and all... not to mention the Freeper run on guns since the election. No sense in them having the only guns, besides the gangsters, in my hood.

I haven't shot a gun in about five years, but I used to be a great shot. One of my oldest friends is a cop and he was on a SWAT team for years... he was the only person I ever knew who could shoot as well as I could. Maybe this year's bonus should fund a new snub nose .38 revolver...
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 05:49 PM
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36. The collectors (type 03) license is $30 for three years
If you like curios and relics, it pays for itself in one purchase.

You also have to spend about another $40 for supplies, i.e. bound book and stuff.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 05:50 PM
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37. Thanks for the info...
I think it's time:)
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MgtPA Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 03:39 PM
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16. Nope. I passed a Top Secret clearance background check by DoD without any trouble, but I couldn't...
...pass the Obama test. Guess his administration will be staffed with a bunch of 10-year-olds.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 03:54 PM
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17. Maybe pre-1962.
After that, it is all pretty much a fog.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 03:59 PM
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18. I'd have to retrieve some 'racy' love letters from about 15 years ago, Otherwise,
yes, I'd pass.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 04:01 PM
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19. Never in a million years
And I'm very glad of it too.
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 04:35 PM
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20. you mean he's actually vetting his candidates?
wow imagine that
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 04:52 PM
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21. I wouldn't even attempt it!
It would be a forgone conclusion.

Bake
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VaYallaDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 04:57 PM
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22. Absolutely not. I inhaled. What's worse, I remember it.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 03:10 PM
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59. I inhaled and now I can't remember anything.
But I'm happy that President Clinton will be handing the reigns over to this Obama fellow.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 05:03 PM
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24. Not enough information to say one way or another
All the application asks for is disclosure. Certainly lying on the application would result in a disqualification. But even TS military clearances and FBI employment are granted to people who admit to things that they did far in the past.
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MonteLukast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 06:15 PM
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40. I'm (pleasantly) surprised they don't ask...
... whether you or any member of your family has ever been diagnosed with a mental illness or received psychiatric care. (My mother is bipolar.) But I'm not sure if that comes under "have you had a physical in the past year" or, "potential embarrassment to the President-elect".

I wonder if having a lot of student loan debt qualifies as "vulnerability to blackmail"? At least it's not gambling debt.

I write fan fiction sometimes, including RPF. (real people fic, for the uninitiated) That may cook my goose.

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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 06:33 PM
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42. Probably,
Doesnt sound much different that the backgroud check I when through to get clearance for access to nuclear weapons. That was in the 1970s.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 06:41 PM
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44. I see a list of questions; I *don't* see pass/fail criteria
Edited on Thu Nov-13-08 06:44 PM by Posteritatis
Also, I find #9 interesting - the fact that they ideally want the references to be one person you worked with, one person you worked for, and one person who worked for you. And #8 would probably have some interesting answers no matter who's responding.

(ed. to add musing on specific questions)
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Libertyfirst Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 09:24 PM
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45. I don't know if I'd past or fail.
But whoever read my application would not be bored. I have fought the good fight and I have had a lot of fun. And am far to busy doing both to fill out an application for anything.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 09:56 PM
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46. I post on DU, counts me out!!!
:rofl:
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 10:19 PM
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47. Not a chance. n/t
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qwlauren35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 11:08 PM
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48. The tax questions got me...
There's not much that has happened in my life that I'm so embarrassed about that I couldn't have it come up in a Senate hearing.

Well, that I can remember!
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 11:13 PM
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49. Oh fuck no.
:rofl:
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 11:05 PM
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51. No.
next question...
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KillCapitalism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 02:10 AM
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52. His background check is ridiculous.
I would even go so far to say that it's a serious invasion of privacy.

I'm not sure if Jesus himself would even pass it. :crazy:
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 03:03 AM
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53. Would you have minded if Rumsfeld or Ashcroft underwent this?
Remember, it's for Cabinet-level officials, and a large chunk of the things there are matters of public record anyway (formal business relationships, legal records, etc).

I've got no problem with officials of that sort of rank coming into the White House with as few unaddressed skeletons as possible.

And for God's sake, why are people talking about whether or not it can be "passed" or "failed" as though you know the criteria? Unless the idea is that someone has to be spotless in every regard there - which is total bullshit and a level of purity which doesn't even apply to top secret security clearances, as some in this thread note - we know nothing about this beyond the questions and an implied need for disclosure before serving on the cabinet.

With what knowledge of the thing we have, the only way, and I mean the only way, I could be totally certain someone could get in trouble through that is if they were caught lying on it.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 03:19 AM
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54. Then don't apply.
:evilgrin:

IMNSHO the background check is NOT a pass/fail type of exercise. Obama and his advisers want to be aware of any potential problems. You can have a little "jaded past" if you own up to it. What's truly important is that you can't be blackmailed in the future for past misdeeds. If the screening people KNOW your past, then you can often move beyond it.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 08:28 PM
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72. It's voluntary, so it's not an invasion of privacy. Nobody is making you apply.
Jesus would definitely not pass it. Jesus wasn't interested in being a politician or a bureaucrat.
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bean fidhleir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 12:24 PM
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74. Obama himself (not to mention Biden and the rest) couldn't pass any worthwhile bg check
Because by "worthwhile" I mean politics, not peccadillos. Their backgrounds are littered with evidence that they don't give a rat's ass for the people who take the weight and pay the bills: us.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 03:56 AM
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55. Haha, depends on if DU is a disqualifier
Posting here is probably the most heinous thing I've ever done.
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 06:50 AM
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56. Sure. I'm as pure as the driven snow (for the last ten years, anyway).
About half of the questions I could mark "N/A".

The other half, I don't give a damn if anyone knows or not. So much for being blackmailed. (My standard response would be "Yeah. What of it?")

And the third half isn't germaine to the position anyway, so I've no problem giving an honest answer.

So, I've added 1/2, 1/2, and 1/2 and gotten a total of 1. Obviously, I'm applying for the position as Secretary of the Treasury.

Oh, and I'm Practically Perfect In Every Way. Just thought I'd toss that in.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 07:03 AM
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57. Nope.
I can't say I'm a bad person; I can say that there are things in my background that may make the Obama folks hesitate.

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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 11:30 AM
Original message
No way on God's green earth
Edited on Sat Nov-15-08 11:46 AM by StopThePendulum
I had too much from my past to qualify for a job at the White House.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 11:30 AM
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58. No way on God's green earth
I was arrested for writing bad checks in 1989 (charges were dropped b/c I repaid them), plus I had a kid I gave up for adoption in 1983 (my bio son is 25 now). I had a student loan forgiven on account of a permanent disability. My credit is shot to hell, in part because of deadbeat roommates who left me holding the bag with unpaid parking tickets on a car they drove without my permission, unpaid utility bills, etc.--all because they were getting high instead of paying their share of the bills!
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 05:48 PM
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60. requires applicants to list -- and if possible, provide copies of -- all "posts or comments on blogs

Obama Wants Applicants' Web-Posting Past


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A nine-page questionnaire requires applicants to list -- and if possible, provide copies of -- all "posts or comments on blogs or other Web sites"they have ever made. Also required are "aliases" or nicknames used on those sites.

Translated into English, this means that President-elect Obama wants to know far more about you than his predecessors did.

snip
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/11/14/tech/cnettechnews/main4604813.shtml?source=RSSattr=Politics_4604813

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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 07:42 PM
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61. Obama Wants Applicants' Web-Posting Past
Source: CBSNews.com

(CNET) If you want a job in an Obama administration, be prepared to disclose every blog post or comment you've ever written.

A nine-page questionnaire requires applicants to list -- and if possible, provide copies of -- all "posts or comments on blogs or other Web sites" they have ever made. Also required are "aliases" or nicknames used on those sites.

Translated into English, this means that President-elect Obama wants to know far more about you than his predecessors did. That requirement would force applicants to disclose information about Facebook and MySpace pages, profiles posted on dating Web sites, and even what was posted on Web sites like CNET and YouTube that allow readers to append comments.

Note that question doesn't only ask for potentially embarrassing or incendiary posts. It wants a list of "each" one.

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/11/14/tech/cnettechnews/main4604813.shtml?source=RSSattr=Politics_4604813



Well.. that excludes, what? 99% of us here including your's truly! Oh well...

I can't say this is a bad idea as these guys are being absolutely thorough and they want no surprises. Obama can't afford any. He can't afford to be discredited even though it's a game of gotcha.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 07:42 PM
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62. I think it's excellent, know why?
That way the media is less likely to find sh*t in his administration with which to grace their newspapers and News at 11 in order to sell copies and get viewership.
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 07:42 PM
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63. D'oh - If I ever was in the running, I'm sure not now...
I like the fucking swear words, goddammit.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 07:42 PM
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64. As the Beatles sang
Dear Prudence, won't you come out to play?
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 07:42 PM
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65. I want squeaky-clean applicants in govt..
Too much of this crap comes to the surface later rather than sooner.

Barack is wise to weed out garden before any embarrassments arise.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 07:42 PM
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66. Keepin' my day job
If it's still there on Monday. :scared:
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 07:42 PM
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67. I support this
we've had an administration that put a former horse show judge in charge of FEMA.




need we say anything more?
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 07:42 PM
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68.  Times, they ARE achangin' ...............

I hope this circulates quickly on MySpace!
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 07:42 PM
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69. I think it's a little extreme
As long as your not into child porn and hate speech. How can anyone remember everything they've ever posted. I think turning your hard drive or lap top over would be enough.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 07:42 PM
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70. Makes sense to me and Obama should make certain no one has ever used illegal drugs. presidents
exempt of course so Bill Clinton and George Bush qualify.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 08:25 PM
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71. LOL!
No.
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zelta gaisma Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 08:34 PM
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73. ROTFLMAO!!!
OMG! just my online life would disqualify me. Not even going into my real escapades. Let's just say I don't know how politicians make it through their "wild" 20's without disqualifying themselves for public life
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