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douglas9 Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 06:17 AM
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AWOL Marine arrested with dad
Source: Denver Post

A Marine from Boulder accused of faking his disappearance in 2006 to avoid service in Iraq was arrested Sunday afternoon, along with his father, at the Port Angeles, Wash., airport.

A tip from Boulder led Washington police to 23-year-old Lance Hering, who was arrested with his father, Lloyd, who faces a misdemeanor charge of aiding and abetting a criminal.

The largest search in Boulder County Sheriff's Office history ensued in the summer of 2006 after Hering, a lance corporal home on leave, supposedly fell in Eldorado Canyon and disappeared. More than 600 people were involved.

Five days later, his climbing companion, Steve Powers, confessed to the ruse.

Read more: http://www.denverpost.com/portlet/article/html/fragments/print_article.jsp?articleId=11001834&siteId=36
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 07:57 AM
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1. I would really like to see President Obama do a Jimmy Carter with troops
Who went AWOL or deserted this illegal war.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 11:39 AM
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4. they can come home and serve here.
gawd knows we need a lot of things here after 8 years of neglect.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 12:19 AM
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8. Seriously. Sentence him to community service & send him down to Galveston.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 12:53 AM
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11. Me too! Hear Lt. Watada speak on
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Swagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 09:38 AM
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2. wow what a crime..didn't want to kill Iraqis..he's a hero
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 10:50 PM
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6. Shouldn't have volunteered.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 12:26 AM
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10. Looks like he was in the
"enlist or go to jail" category of volunteer.

"Hering is wanted by the Marine Corps for desertion and will face a military court. In the aftermath of his disappearance, a Boulder County judge revoked Hering's deferred sentence in a 2004 attempted-burglary case, meaning he will carry a felony conviction and could face civilian jail time as well."


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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 01:10 AM
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12. Looks like he should have just done his time.
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Swagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 11:51 AM
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15. quite true..but you have to sort of forgive people sometimes for
not thinking things through..I respect him more for doing a bunk and not going to Iraq..and I feel sorry for those who went believing they are doing the right thing and come back damaged...mentally or physically. And I hate old men who use the innocence of youth to wage war.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 07:08 PM
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17. We can forgive, that doesn't mean the law should.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 07:16 PM
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18. Sounds like something Cheney would and did say.
Edited on Tue Nov-18-08 07:27 PM by superconnected
It's a dangerous and stupid rhetoric when applied to any situation.

This guy should have the option to change his mind.

As the facts change the course of action should be evaluated and change. Unless of course you are neferious person who is willing to have people killed for making the wrong decision even though they later changed their mind - an army leader sending soldiers to their death perhaps with gulp *patriotic* morals that justify making others dies for their(the leaders) overblown patriotic beliefs, perhaps. ewww.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 07:35 PM
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19. Or perhaps a disabled vet who served as a combat medic.
Bigoted presumptions also causes dangerous and stupid rhetoric.

David
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 02:08 AM
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20. How sickening. A medic who feels people should have the chance to
change their mind. How utterly sickening.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 02:18 AM
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24. People should have a chance to change their mind. How can you not agree with that?
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 02:09 AM
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21. Actually I put people with IQ's below room temperature on ignore.
Edited on Wed Nov-19-08 02:11 AM by superconnected
So ignore you go.

How utterly sickening... Bye.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 02:19 AM
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25. I win again.
That was really easy.

David
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 02:24 AM
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27. How nice of you to insult a disabled vet.
and then have the audacity to call me sickening.

David
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gtar100 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 09:48 AM
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3. Those who gave the "tip" must sure feel like patriots
:sarcasm:

When "duty" goes against conscience, it's then we find out just how "free" we really are.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 02:14 AM
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22. Excellent point!
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 02:25 AM
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28. How patriotic do you feel insulting disabled vets? As you have done in this thread.
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investintrains Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 10:41 PM
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5. God give both mercy for declining to be party to murder
God give both mercy for declining to be party to murder
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 11:45 PM
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7. k&r. Here is link to local story, where he got caught, and an interesting bit on what he did in Iraq
Note aside, PA is also where Ressam was caught bringing high explosives into the USA on a ferry from Canada.

http://www.peninsuladailynews.com/article/20081117/NEWS/311179995


He had been home on leave from the Marines after serving one tour of duty in Iraq in Kilo Company, 3rd Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment, which had been involved in the shooting death of a civilian Iraqi woman in April 2005.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 12:23 AM
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9. That's just tragic.
Edited on Tue Nov-18-08 12:26 AM by intheflow
:cry:

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 01:34 AM
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13. I did a check and couldn't find any particular story about it.
Very sad.
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Eryemil Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 05:05 AM
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14. You realize he was probably just trying to save his own ass
Which while understandable is hardly 'heroic'. Just another idiot trying to evade the consequences of his own actions.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 02:16 AM
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23. Since when is saving your own arse idotic?
Good for him. He chose life.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 02:20 AM
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26. He's a punk that belongs in prison.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 02:54 PM
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16. UPDATE, was getting ready to turn self in. (story, link....)
http://www.peninsuladailynews.com/article/20081118/news/311189997
The U.S. Marine Corps appears to be in no hurry to send an AWOL fugitive with long, blond hair and a scraggly beard from Port Angeles to the brig. Clallam County Superior Court Judge Ken Williams on Monday set a $5,000 bail for Lance Hering, the Colorado Marine who was arrested Sunday by Port Angeles police at William R. Fairchild International Airport on Sunday. Williams ordered that Hering provide proof of a local address prior to posting bail. He also was ordered to remain in Western Washington.

Hering is fighting extradition to Colorado. Because the crimes in Colorado do not pass the threshold of a homicide or major felony, Boulder County will not send its own investigators to Port Angeles, authorities there said.
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The Camera reported Monday night that Hering was on the verge of turning himself over to authorities before his arrest. "When arrested, Lance was on the last leg of his long and lonely journey as a fugitive," Hering's attorney, Alex Garlin, told the newspaper. "He was just days short of his planned voluntary surrender. He knew what he had to do and was in the process of doing it."...(more@link)
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