India sends maximum students to the US to study

[varun]

Source: Rediff

India continues to be the leading country to send maximum number of students to the United States for pursuing higher education for the seventh consecutive year surpassing China, an official report said.

India has retained the first slot for the seventh year in succession with the number of Indian students in the US increasing by 13 per cent in 2007-08 to reach 94,563, according to the Open Doors report published by the Institute of International Education with support from the US Department of State's Bureau of Education and Cultural Affairs.

The total number of foreign students pursuing studies and research activities in the US reached an all time high of 6,23,805 in 2007-08 session, marking an increase of seven per cent over the previous year, the report released today said.

The new enrolments were up by 10 per cent in the colleges and universities in the US, the report said. The increase in students is attributed to the outreach efforts carried out by the Department of State in key international markets including India, China, Vietnam and Brazil .



Read more: http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/nov/17india-send-maximum-students-to-us-to-study.htm

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Well, some of the outsourced money is coming back to US...

[musette_sf]

1. but we need for AMERICAN students

to be studying in the US, which means that higher education HAS to be affordable, and not a lifetime debt that may never get paid off.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

19. That's why every college student here is Indian.

:eyes:

[dbackjon]

2. Cool - outsourcing education to the U.S.

Just think of all the jobs this creates here.

[pampango]

20. You're right. The more paying students the more money the universities have to hire

professors, janitors, accountants, etc.

Plus I believe that international students pay full tuition, not lower in-state or other reduced tuitions. Any move to limit or eliminate foreign college students would worsen college's financial problems and make it more difficult for American students to get the financial aid that many need.

As you say, it is true that this is the reverse of the outsourcing of service industry jobs to India. In the college education, we are receiving money from India for providing a service rather than India receiving our money for providing a service to us. Viewed in that light, the more Indian students we attract here the better we are doing.

[pattmarty]

3. Hey, HELLO, what the fuck about us????????????

[Crunchy Frog]

5. Well it's not like our students are going to be able to find jobs in this economy.

:shrug:

[AlphaCentauri]

8. but we could outsource professionals n/t

[Tunkamerica]

4. I read a few years ago that India (and not Mexico)

is the country where most of our illegal immigrants come from. Those numbers could be outdated though.

[desktop]

6. They are swarming America legal and illegal

They dominate information technology jobs in America as they have displaced the American workers jobs. American corporations dump American workers and hire the Indian workers because they are easily threatened with deportation if they refuse work or accept low salary.

[OhioChick]

9. True.

I thought our education system sucked? Guess it's not that bad. Too bad most Americans can't afford to send their kids.

[ihavenobias]

17. Yep n/t

[Owl]

28. Second Yep.

[whathehell]

21. Yes, and you can give lots of credit to the H1-B Visa -- brought in under a Repuke Administration

but continued by Bill Clinton.

Hell, Hillary helped start the "Friends of India", laughingly calling herself "The Senator from Punjab" and assuring Indian Nationals that there would be no "slowdown" of American jobs for Indians in her administration.

It's one of the major reasons I refused to back her in the primaries. The Clintons, in my view, are nothing if not "compromised". :eyes:

[ChromeFoundry]

12. India growing source of U.S. illegal immigrants

India growing source of U.S. illegal immigrants
Oakland Tribune,
Feb 25, 2008 by Mike Swift

The Bay Area has a piece of the nation's fastest growing group of illegal immigrants. But don't assume you know who they are.

Turning stereotypes on their head, a recent federal analysis of unauthorized immigration says the most rapidly growing source of illegal immigration is India -- the same country whose engineers and programmers help power Google and other Silicon Valley companies, whose doctors heal the Bay Area's sick, and whose entrepreneurs and venture capitalists have become a force on both sides of the international date line.

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security estimates there are 270,000 unauthorized Indian natives in the United States -- a 125 percent jump since 2000, the largest percentage increase of any nation with more than 100,000 illegal immigrants in the United States.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4176/is_/ai_n24349301

[Azlady]

18. Yep,

Have a friend from India, he came over to help his Uncle with the Restaruant, then his brother came over to help with the restaurant, they both left,(breaking the visa requirements). My friend was able to maintain his Visa, his brother was going to be departed (out of Oakland area actually).. so they drove him up to Canada, he came back over and lives in the USA illegally.. and it was easy for him and he has a J O B.... I don't be he does. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[AlphaCentauri]

7. 94,563 a good number of new professionals working in the US

if 94,563 americans had the money to pay for their education

Make college education free to US citizens.

[investintrains]

10. Indian students enrich the US and bring vegetarian cuisine with them

Indian students enrich the US and bring vegetarian cuisine with them

450 million Indians are vegetarians... 700 million eat no murdered
cows
www.ivu.org

[ChromeFoundry]

11. Good, more meat for me...

Meat is yummy.

[OhioChick]

13. Interestingly enough...

Less number of US students coming to India for studies

Chalsa (WB), Dec 18: Less number of American students were coming to India for studies because of the "inordinate delay" in getting Indian visas, US embassy public affairs minister counsellor Larry Schwartz claimed here today.

"For some reason or the other, may be bureaucratic process, American students are not getting Indian visas while Indian students are getting US visas and all help to study in America," Schwartz said, addressing a three-day conference for Fulbright scholars in South Asia. "This year 30 American students could not avail Indian visas as they were issued very late," he said.

Another reason for less students coming here was the "interference" by Indian authorities in the choice of subjects of US students, Schwartz said.

He said delays in issuing Indian visas was "unfortunate", especially when indo-us ties were getting stronger. The Fulbright, would shortly open a centre at R.E.C at Silchar in Assam soon to cover more areas in the north-eastern region to help more students get opportunities to study in America, he added.

http://www.zeenews.com/Nation/2006-12-18/342876news.html

Wonder why the "interference by Indian authorities?"

[ChromeFoundry]

14. Yeah, now that is interesting...

They sure 'want'... But when it comes to having to give something back, well they don't want to play fair.

Sure is gonna be a sight to behold if this government ever gets its shit together and outsourcing is no longer profitable.

[Azlady]

16. Wasn't there another thread about China sending endless students here for college as well?

I have the same thing to ask.... I thought our education was so bad in this country... why are they coming here for shit education???? Guess our college education system ain't as bad as they say.

Also to add... fine, for every overseas student, the college/university must provide a full scholarship for a USA student.

Interesting that India is not offering our students the same freedoms to study what they wish and are bogged down in visa issues.

My thought of course is the job offers after graduation for these students are one of their goals, to have a job in the USA... no, no, no I do not think so. I think things are CHANGING!

I also think it is high time that the laws be changed about who can buy companies/businesses in our country. Interesting that you can not buy a business in many overseas countries.. but boy, they can come here and buy up our businesses.... NEEDS TO STOP! Ohhh I see another email to change.gov ;-)

Azlady

[eilen]

27. The colleges and universities in the US have

a stellar reputation internationally. Our primary and secondary schools, not so much.

[Blue_in_Mass]

25. That is because 'globalization' is only for Americans.

It begs the comment: What foreign powers are encouraging this self-destructive philosophy among us?

[amandabeech]

29. Surprise, surprise!!!

Educational exchange seems to be run on the same principles as free trade.

I don't know how much of this I can stand.

And who pays the tuition and room and board for the Indian students?

Do they have to take out student loans?

Or does the Indian government subsidize their studies?

[PassingFair]

15. My sixteen year old spent 11 months "studying" in India.

I'm doing my best to balance the situation...

[JonQ]

22. Out of curiosity

why did you put "studying" in quotes? Did it seem like he/she didn't get a good education over there?

Not trying to be a smartass, I really am curious about the quality over there. We have a lot of Indian students in my grad program and from what I've seen they seem to place all the emphasis on memorization and fail at real world applications and critical thinking.

[daggahead]

23. I've been told that a Bachelor's degree in India ...

Is not much better than an Associate's degree in the US.

[Blue_in_Mass]

26. Do you think?

And how well do they teach bluffing, along with that Bachelor's?

[PassingFair]

24. Long story....

Technically, she would have been in 11th grade here,
but there was no "high school equivalent in India,
so she was sent to a University there.

The college was an accredited one and HIGHLY
rated in India.

She says that "teaching" involved an instructor
reading a book out loud in a lecture hall.

Most Indian students had private tutors and
attended only sporadically. Also, half the time
the teachers never showed up.

This, added to the fact that her host parents
refused to provide reliable transportation to
and from the University, soon caused my daughter
to have a "so what" attitude toward her "studies".

In India, skipping school is called "bunking",
and she began identifying herself on her facebook
page as "Queen of the Bunkers"...

Not much I could do about it from 7,000 miles away....

She has had to double up on her credits and do summer
school to make up for her "lost" year.

She would not give back her year in India for any amount
of money, though...

She LOVED India.