FBI Questions American Held Without Charges in Gulf State (ACLU to File Against Bush, Mukasey)

[Hissyspit]

Source: McClatchy Newspapers

FBI questions American held without charges in Gulf state

By Jonathan S. Landay, McClatchy Newspapers – Mon Nov 17, 8:22 pm ET

WASHINGTON — An American Muslim subjected to several years of intense FBI scrutiny and questioning about links to terrorism has been held without charges, access to a lawyer or contact with his family for nearly three months by the security services of the United Arab Emirates. The case of Naji Hamdan, coupled with FBI interrogations of at least one other U.S. citizen interrogated by the FBI while secretly detained without charges in East Africa , raises the question of whether the Bush administration has asked other nations to hold Americans suspected of terrorism links whom U.S. officials lack the evidence to charge.

That allegation is central to a lawsuit that the American Civil Liberties Union was planning to file Tuesday in federal court in Washington against President Bush , Attorney General Michael Mukasey and FBI Director Robert Mueller
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"If the U.S. government is responsible for this detention and we believe it is, this is clearly illegal because our government can't contract away the Constitution by enlisting the aid of other governments that do not adhere to the Constitution's requirements," said Ahilan Arulanantham of the ACLU's southern California office.

The lawsuit, to be brought on behalf of Hamdan's wife and brother, demands that the U.S. government extend to Hamdan his constitutional guarantee against illegal detention by asking the UAE to release him. "The most elemental legal principles by which we govern ourselves cannot countenance the lawless detention of a United States citizen at the behest of his own government," said a draft of the lawsuit provided to McClatchy by the ACLU.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20081118/wl_mcclatchy/3103155

[Solly Mack]

1. K&R

:x

[Patriought]

2. Something's missing here...

It really dosen't make sense to me. Don't you think that if you were gonna get any info out of a guy, don't you think that you'd be able to get it out of them inside of three months?

Like some of those guys in Guantanamo, after the first couple of years, I think you've got all the information you're gonna get. Now, we gotta pay to house these guys for the rest of their lives, AND they might even be innocent?

Jinkies.

[Ian David]

5. After a while, you just have to keep them in custody because if you relase them...

... they will sue you.

[alfredo]

7. If a soldier from my unit got captured, I'd see that as a security breech and

would change every code word, our location, our tactics, or even our chain of command. That way if he does turn, the damage done would be minimal. This is not a new idea, all nations do this to some extent.

Yasser Arafat never stayed in one place for more than a few hours. He had no home. He was constantly on the move just in case his location got compromised. I'm sure the same is done with Osama and his lieutenants. You might be able to get the "who" "when" and "where" from a captive, but the "when" and "where" will not be of any value. Chance are, you will already know the "who."

[pleah]

3. Holding people indefinitely, without charges,

should be considered a form of torture.


K&R

[1monster]

4. It really has nothing to do with national security or terrorism. Someone has a tagline banner

that states someting like, When one person is fired, 396 others get the message. It can happen to you too.

That is all that detainment, the "No Fly" list, and other such measures are: Warnings of what can happen to those who do not comply, to those who activivate against or critize government actions and policies.

To paraphrase the Borg and mix in a little Seven of Nine, :Resistance is futile. You WILL compy.

[awoke_in_2003]

6. If Seven of Nine was saying it

I would gladly comply :)

[alfredo]

8. The torture in Iraq was not to extract info, it was to terrorize the population.

[intheflow]

9. When the title said "Gulf state," I thought

FL, AL, MS, LA, or TX. :crazy:

WTF is the FBI doing on the international scene? Isn't that CIA territory?

[Hissyspit]

10. .