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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 02:20 PM
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Pelosi, Reid Retain Leadership Posts
Source: AHN

Washington, D.C. (AHN) - Meeting for party leadership elections, Democratic caucuses in the House and Senate on Tuesday voted to keep House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) in their current posts.

In the House, Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-MC) will remain as majority leader, and Rep. James Clyburn (D-SC) a majority whip. As earlier reported, Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) will continue to chair the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee but will also serve as assistant to the Speaker.

The only significant change in the House Democratic leadership was the election of Rep. John Larson (D-CT) as caucus chairman. Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-IL) left the post after agreeing to be White House chief of staff.

Rep. Xavier Becerra (D-CA), who was assistant to the Speaker, will succeed Larson as vice chair of the caucus.

Read more: http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7013108032




Just a shuffling of the deck.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 02:22 PM
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1. yeah, 'cause they did such a heckuva job before...
:eyes: :puke:

Some change.
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GregD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 02:22 PM
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2. pity. not a surprise, but what a shame.
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amdezurik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 02:23 PM
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3. this is worse then Joe staying in the caucus...
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 02:23 PM
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4. Since they are always defering to the executive, maybe that will turn out well this time. nt
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 02:26 PM
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They were always defering to the RNC
And I don't see there is going to be any change. Reid and Pelosi will continue to not make a move unless they run it by the GOPers first.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 02:24 PM
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5. This isn't change, this is more of the same
As voters, we deserve better than this.
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diamidue Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 02:26 PM
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6. Are we moving backward or forward? I can't tell. n/t
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KakistocracyHater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 01:58 AM
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38. we've been moonwalking out of the 20th Century
under Bush & we're just getting into the 19th Century: expect workdays to be from 6 am to 9 pm, just like then. If public ed is cut "to save costs" expect a right quick resurrection of 'child-wages', after all India is using American propaganda to justify putting their kids to work: "work builds character", never mind that bit about "grinding the seed-corn".

Historically, change has come about because outsiders went in, & the 2nd way is the older generation simply died out & their ways with them.

http://hypertextbook.com/eworld/geocentric.shtml here is a devolutionary geocentric link "Gallileo was wrong", weird stuff.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 02:43 PM
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7. Boy, I'm just getting so excited with all the great changes lately....NOT!
Reid and Pelosi have done nothing but screw us, and it appears they will continue to do so!
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 04:31 PM
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22. Indeed -- haven't people MANDATED CHANGE???
Congress blows it again.
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 03:00 PM
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8. More capitulation to come
very bad sign.

The only way to fund primary challengers for both. Unless this is done, and we win, we have ZERO influence.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 03:20 PM
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15. capitulation to the White House?
Hmmm
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dmosh42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 03:04 PM
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9. This is not a good sign....
These are the same sleazebag leadership that's letting history look at Bush's record as a 'clean' adnministration. What a bunch of asswipes!
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RussBLib Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 03:10 PM
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10. Groan
So much for having the best and the brightest.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 03:10 PM
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11. Just a note to everybody bitching:
They guy who's motto was "change" isn't a member of Congress anymore.
He didn't get a vote on who leads in either chamber.

I'm less than thrilled with Pelosi and Reid, but I'm willing to wait and see what kind of legislation Obama's going to propose and just how they plan to get it passed intact.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 03:20 PM
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13. At least we have a leader of our party who is not one of those two
Pelosi and Reid were so tentative and fumbling it was embarassing.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 07:07 PM
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32. Yep. I'm waiting to see what he does.
That said, I'm not waiting with bated breath.

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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 03:17 PM
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12. beat
change you can dream of
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 03:20 PM
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14. So we're 3-for-3 in rewarding pro-Republican behavior for the last 2 years.
Wonderful.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 03:21 PM
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16. Is there something else we could call it other than "leadership"??
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antimatter98 Donating Member (537 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 03:25 PM
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17. Pelosi/Reid are both lame failures, since 2006--they've caved
on everything BushCo wanted, and oversaw the destruction of the Constitution without making
one peep. Same for FISA. Same for unwarranted wiretapping. Same for Patriot Act II. And
same for TORTURE.

Is there a way to bring indictments against these two for war crimes, and for not
enforcing the Constitution?

I'd love to see Pelosi/Reid jailed in one of the secret prisons they approved, and all
their private emails and telephone calls made public.

Pelosi/Reid have done as much damage to the country as BushCo and they need to be
held accountable for their treason.


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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 03:29 PM
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18. I don't know what to Say!
I have no words. AKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 06:43 PM
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29. I do but can't say them.. I can say that
their action or lack of it over the last 6 years has helped me understand the Stalin, Castro, Mao's of the world etc. I don't support their murderous actions but I do understand them.

My hope is that someday they will reveal the blackmail or threats to them that have caused them to become cowards and traitors to their party. There has to be a reason they can't possibly be this lazy, stupid and uncaring.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 07:04 PM
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31. Well put! n/t
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 03:33 PM
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19. who votes to keep the same leadership in the House?
and if not Pelosi who else Barney Frank? John Conyers? and no they would never vote for Dennis Kucinich.
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 03:45 PM
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20. Words cannot express my disappointment
How unpopular will Congress have to be before they get the message that we want CHANGE.

Reid and Pelosi=Utter Failure
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 04:09 PM
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21. ohhhhhhhhhh goody
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 04:37 PM
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23. Shit
Disgusting
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NikolaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 04:53 PM
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24. A Disappointment
but not a surprise. :puke: And so the rewards for failing the people just keep on coming:grr:.
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 04:56 PM
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25. Status Quo - Business as usual.
Edited on Wed Nov-19-08 04:57 PM by Phred42
They will toss us a crumb here and there to shut us up but we are headed down teh same toilet that the Reich has started us on

The Democrats are the Silent Partners of the Reich. It's the only thing that explains everything

Obama is already starting to make me sorry that I sent him money and canvased
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 05:13 PM
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26. I am never giving money to this fucking party again.
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 06:13 PM
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27. The dim duo
yo fancy nancy,when your rethug pal try to impeach Obama,will that also be off the table?.Hello mr reid,( the big wind from vagas),how is your pal joe the traitor?.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 06:22 PM
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28. Now You Know the Truth
They aren't weak... they did what they were asked to do.... they wanted exactly what Bush and the GOP wanted but they never had the balls to admit it. So, the same capitulators are rewarded.
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 06:51 PM
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30. So much for the "Rove is blackmailing them" theory.
FWIW, I didn't vote for her.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 07:07 PM
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33. And what about her table?
Edited on Wed Nov-19-08 07:09 PM by Baby Snooks
Did they vote to allow her to keep her table? Change? Not in Congress. Not with the number of members of the Senate Barack Obama is recruiting to serve in his cabinet and taking a chance that another Democrat will replace them. What if a Republican replaces them? And the same in the House. He is diluting the Democratic power base. And some wonder why.

All eyes turn to the Clintons. We may not only have a Clinton White House but a Clinton administration. A Republicrat administration.

What fools people are. The Democrats waving their little flags the way the Republicans have for so long. Believing in the party. That doesn't exist. Both parties have been hijacked at this point.

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vanboggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 07:25 PM
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34. Well chit
So much for election reform and for investigating Bushco crimes retroactively. I don't know how she even got re-elected much less put back in her leadership position. Ick.
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Hotler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 09:40 PM
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35. This proves they're corrupt and/or compromised.
I move to impeach Nancy ASAP.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 09:51 PM
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36. Good. I'd like to hear more about the CT Congressman who will head the DCCC, tho. (nt)
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gtar100 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 10:16 PM
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37. Wow. So far no one has posted a congratulations.
Edited on Wed Nov-19-08 10:16 PM by gtar100
And who, besides their fellow congress critters, is actually happy about 1) Lie-berman, 2) Reid, and 3) Pelosi. Maybe a few well-connected "constituents" but certainly not the population at large. So much for that "representation" in a "representative democracy".

Onward Weasel, Milquetoast and Stick-In-The-Mud!! You may be happy in your halls of power, but in the Book of Life, if you keep screwing up, you'll be written off as despicable.
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 05:58 PM
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39. Rep. Becerra on Impeachment, July 2007
Edited on Thu Nov-20-08 06:02 PM by pat_k
http://becerra.house.gov/NR/rdonlyres/E6898B10-6770-42FB-A729-0D2B57D9C135/0/20070725BecerraPodcast.mp3">Xavier Becerra|Rep. Becerra on Impeachment, July 2007

He alternately acknowledges crimes, then runs through the litany of false memes -- "would take 18 months" "would distract" and the patronizing "I understand your frustration; I'm frustrated. . ." (To claim to 'understand how we feel" or to "feel the same way' about his dereliction is asinine. If he 'understood' he would be co-sponsoring/introducing Articles of Impeachment.)

Might we worthwhile to write/call and challenge the irreconcilable contradictions: i.e., How can he acknowledge the intolerable violations but refuse to even TRY to object or stop the violations by seeking to remove the violators?









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