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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-08 12:58 PM
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Video of Secret Service agents won't be released
Source: AP

DENVER (AP) - Attorneys for a man accused of assaulting Vice President Dick Cheney have lost their latest bid to release videotaped depositions of Cheney aides, Secret Service agents and an Eagle County sheriff's employee.

In a ruling Tuesday, U.S. District Judge Christine Arguello upheld Magistrate Judge Craig Shaffer's ruling that there was no "good cause" to release the videotapes. Government attorneys feared the video would show up on YouTube or Comedy Central, which airs shows such as the "Daily Show with Jon Stewart" and the "Colbert Report."

Lane says the videotapes show agents contradicting each other. Transcripts have been released.

Read more: http://www.localnews8.com/Global/story.asp?S=9415457&nav=menu554_2



This is about the case of the guy arrested for "acting strangely" around Cheney.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2342450&mesg_id=2342450

Nicole Frey
June 16, 2006


BEAVER CREEK – A man was arrested by Secret Service agents when he tried to approach Vice President Dick Cheney in Beaver Creek Village Friday afternoon, said Secret Service spokesman Eric Zahren.

Cheney was walking outside when the agents charged with protecting him noticed the man who “wasn’t acting like the other folks in the area,” Zahren said.

“His behavior and demeanor wasn’t quite right,” Zahren said. “The agents tried to question him, and he was argumentative and combative”

While the man was released later in the evening, officials are reviewing possible federal charges.


Later it comes out that
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/jan/18/denve... /

Steven Howards and his son were walking by a Dick Cheney event this summer in Beaver Creek, on their way to a piano lesson. Howards told Cheney he didn’t approve of his war policy. When Howards walked back from the lesson, passing the site again, he was arrested. Charges later were dropped.


Then
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/jan/18/denve... /

The New York Times had a feature article on the case yesterday. What's become the big story in the case is that the Secret Service agents are accusing each other of making stuff up.

Another agent, meanwhile, said Reichle contacted him a few hours after the arrest and asked him to trump up the encounter to make the arrest appear legitimate, according to the deposition.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-08 01:12 PM
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1. Are charges still pending against this guy?
And isn't the prosecution obligated to give the defense the tapes under discovery laws?

Can't the defense get them at least with FOIA?
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KnaveRupe Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-08 01:16 PM
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3. It sounds like the defense wants to release the video tapes to the public.,
Not that they can't get access to the video tapes themselves.
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amdezurik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-08 01:21 PM
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6. and good lord what a tragedy THAT would be!
imagine proof on TDS of how dishonest incompetent and plain old stupid the SS is!
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amdezurik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-08 01:21 PM
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7. and good lord what a tragedy THAT would be!
imagine proof on TDS of how dishonest incompetent and plain old stupid the SS is!
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-08 01:22 PM
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8. Aren't court cases public venues?
If I could see the tapes while sitting in the courtroom, why shouldn't I be able to see them sitting in my living room?

I'm a 100% believer in an open society. There is no justification for not releasing these tapes unless charges are still pending against the guy (two years later) and the tapes would taint the jury pool. If charges are no longer pending, the only point is that they would embarrass the officials, and I strongly support officials being embarrassed when they do stupid shit.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-08 01:21 PM
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5. No. The charges were dropped. This case now is about the guy suing for false arrest
He subpoenaed the testimony of the secret service agents and Cheney to prove that he was arrested under false pretenses.
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amdezurik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-08 01:22 PM
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and since the tapes seems to prove that
he WAS falsely arrested, of course they lean on the judge to supress them...
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amdezurik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-08 01:22 PM
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9. and since the tapes seems to prove that
he WAS falsely arrested, of course they lean on the judge to supress them...
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-08 01:14 PM
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2. I wouldn't "act strangely" around Cheney.
But I would be vomiting from the stink of sulfur.


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mcjackson Donating Member (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-08 01:20 PM
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4. are those the ...
... first amendment rights palin was talking about?
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Sam Ervin jret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-08 01:27 PM
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10. People who don't "act strangely" around Dick are the ones who should be locked up.
And when did posting things embarrassing to the government become against the law or "ban able" by a judge in the land of the free?

Oh I forgot. HE"S still president and the damage continues to the end.
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VeraAgnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-08 01:27 PM
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11. The Secret Service Executive Division
will never have a photo........NEVER. My cousin was one.....The only time you might see one is when they agent retires.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-08 04:53 PM
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12. Informing the public about our justice system...
...is an excellent reason why the tapes should be released.

What if people watch the tapes on YouTube?

Then citizens will be better informed.
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