(SC) Justice Kennedy rejects 2 more challenges to Obama

[sabra]

Source: AP

WASHINGTON (AP) — Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy has rejected two more efforts to get the court to consider whether President-elect Barack Obama is eligible to take office.

Kennedy on Wednesday denied without comment an appeal by Philip J. Berg, a Pennsylvania attorney, that claims Obama is either a citizen of Kenya or Indonesia and is ineligible to be president because he is not a "natural-born citizen" of the U.S. as required by the Constitution. Another appeal from California, based on Berg's claims, also was denied.

Individual justices and the entire court have turned down emergency appeals over Obama's eligibility at least seven times in the past six weeks.

Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961 to an American mother and a Kenyan father.

Reacting to Internet-fueled conspiracy theories that Obama's birth certificate is a fake, Hawaiian officials have said they examined the document and have no doubt it is authentic.

Read more: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iHUQU9Oy9bW8w5a5eevJkGvFNtmAD954J4CG0

[onehandle]

1. It is fake. He's actually French.

And he's going to be President.

Suck it, freepers.

[scytherius]

22. Really? I thought he was Martian. Show's what I know. =) n/t

nt

[onehandle]

26. Martian would be more acceptable to a freeper than French. nt

[yardwork]

2. I hope that certain members of the Court are being inconvenienced by all this.

[question everything]

3. they are not going to stop

will continue this well into Obama's presidency.

[bdamomma]

6. they are going to make Obama's four years hell.

between the repigs and those who are in denial that this man was elected overwhelmingly to be our President. Let's move on huh?

[Bigmack]

7. 8 years actually.... nt

[bdamomma]

14. true, the repigs during the next four years will continue to show

themselves as true a$$holes.

[question everything]

24. Just as they pursued Bill Clinton thorughout his eight years

spent $70 million to show that... he cheated on his wife.

[8 track mind]

4. aaawwwwww

poor widdle fweepers!

[HopeHoops]

5. Yeah, and Bush is a Texahegian. Cheney lives in Wyoming. Up is down and the Pope is Jewish.

At least the last two are plausible.

[specimenfred1984]

8. Every hear a repub hypocrite whine about "frivolous lawsuits"? LOL

Repubs are traitors to America, they prove it every second of every day.

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[sinkingfeeling]

10. It was nice for you to drop by.... now we will see how long it takes for you to go bye-bye.

[BR_Parkway]

12. How many times do you have to hit refresh before the pizza is ready?

[Milspec]

11. $800,000 in legal fees

Do you have a source for that figure other that you saw it posted on a blog?

[chatnoir]

13. Jarody? Think your nick should've been Parody

[BlueInPhilly]

16. Doesn't matter what his father's citizenship is

The US relies on jus soli - by soil - to grant citizenship, and jus sanguini - by blood. Both his parent could be from Mars, but if he was born int the US or in a US Embassy compound, or any US territory, that makes him a naturalized citizen, according to jus soli.

He could be born in Panama to just one US citizen parent, and by jus sanguini, that also qualifies him as a natural-born citizen.

Political Science 101.

[Stuckinthebush]

19. You and your crazy "facts"!

Stop it with the facts!

:D

[Number23]

25. You mean "natural born" don't you??

but if he was born int the US or in a US Embassy compound, or any US territory, that makes him a naturalized citizen, according to jus soli.

Anyone born on US soil is a natural born US citizen. This is part of what makes the Freeper hysteria over this issue so absolutely, mind-blowingly asinine.

[qwlauren35]

34. Actually, it is more complicated.

Something to do with age of mother, citizenship of father, length of residence and some other criteria. But Obama still passes the test.

[CitizenPatriot]

17. jarody

You missed the sign on the DU front door : NO TIN FOIL HATS. Kindly remove yours before posting again.

[Stuckinthebush]

18. Stupid challenge

This is a boneheaded challenged. Look, I know that you and your friends can't stand having Obama as President but try some other angle, ok? If you were are so worried about transparency then you should start by looking at the cover ups by the current idiot in the White House.

[gratuitous]

20. Many allegations, no facts

Is your first name "Robert" by any chance?

[MaineDem]

30. Actually, he has no first name

This is is legal full name. This poster ran (or tried to run) as a Republican for the Maine House. According to some, he was asked to withdraw from the race by the Maine Republican Party. I have no idea why he's here.

[gratuitous]

31. So it's not a pseudonym for Robert Nofacts?

Bummer.

[Chulanowa]

21. Since you're still here, allow me to introduce you to someone.

The pretty lady holding the squirming child is Barack Obama's mother, Ann Dunham. She was an American citizen her whole life. Never renounced citizenship and, as far as I can tell, never even got dual citizenship. I could be wrong on the former. As an American citizen, any child she has, by whomever, born wherever, is also legally an American citizen, and thus eligible for the office of the presidency

A case could also be made for Barack Obama, Sr.'s marriage to Ann Dunham, and the birth of their child - both events on American soil - could actually make him an American citizen by default. I'm not too sure about the marriage and parenting parts of US immigration law during the early 60's, though.

Barack Obama, by the way, actually has released his birth certificate. Shocking, I know.

A little research won't kill ya, man :)

[Ms. Toad]

35. Actually, of what you list, only the born on American soil works.

There were quirks in the law at the time he was born which means that because of her age at Obama's birth her citizenship does not automatically make him a citizen. At the time he was born, this was the law: "If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16." Since she was only 18 at the time, she cannot have lived "at least five" of the required 10 years "after the age of 16."

[leftynyc]

37. That part of the law only applies

if the child is not born on American soil. That's why the morons are trying to say he was born in Kenya.

[Ms. Toad]

38. It actually does apply,

he just doesn't qualify under that part of the law as a natural born citizen. I was responding to this post and a later one which asserted that he was a natural born citizen for two different reasons: (1) "As an American citizen, any child she has, by whomever, born wherever, is also legally an American citizen, and thus eligible for the office of the presidency" and (2) because he was born on U.S. soil. The reality is that Obama's citizenship is completely unrelated to the citizenship of his mother. Based on the law at the time, and her age at his birth, her citizenship CANNOT confer citizenship on Obama, regardless of where he was born.

Where he was born, however, can - and does - INDEPENDENTLY confer citizenship on him. His natural born citizenship comes solely from being born on US soil. In other words, "The pretty lady holding the squirming child is Barack Obama's mother, Ann Dunham {who} was an American citizen her whole life" had nothing to do with Obama being eligible to be president, other than because of where her body happened to be when he was born.

[leftynyc]

39. Yes - that's my understanding as well

The knuckle draggers are desperate to prove he was not born in HI.

[scytherius]

23. Jarody . . . NO ONE CARES. No one. Absolutely no one.

And there's not a damn thing you can do about it. The reign of Republican sub-human idiocy is coming to an end.

[Number23]

27. Oh, is it only $800,000 now??

What should matter is that he has spent approximately $800,000 in legal fees to suppress or cover up a document that costs only ten dollars to produce.

Your friends at FR have been saying as much as $3 MILLION!1!! But if you guys are going to keep pulling stuff out of your behinds, I guess there's no real point in trying to be consistent...

And your kind wonder why the entire world, all 6 and a half billion of us, laugh at you...

[1monster]

32. He was born in the United States. That alone makes him a United States citizen.

His mother was a citizen of the United States, thus he legitimately claims natural born U.S. citizenship.

So what if his father was a British citizen? That may have conveyed the right to British citizenship to Obama had he desired it, but it was not mandatory that he accept it.

Obama is a natural born citizen of the United States on two counts: he was born here and his mother was a citizen.

Game over.

You lose.

[Ms. Toad]

36. His mother's citizenship does not make him a citizen,

because of how the law was written at the time, and because of her age (at age 18, it was impossible for her to have met the living in the US for at least 5 years after age 16 requirement when only one parent is a U.S. citizen.)

His birth on U.S. soil, however, does make him a natural born citizen - but only on one count, not two.

[supernova]

33. BWAHAHAHAHA!

What a funny guy!

You do know that anybody born on US soil is de facto American by birth, don't you?

Of course, you don't. Otherwise you wouldn't be so confused.

Get your head out of your ass, boy.

Barack Obama is the very legitimate President-elect of the United States.

[shadowknows69]

15. Salt meet wounds.

[amb123]

28. US News: November 1, 2012

"The United States Supreme Court rejected for the 2,650th time any consideration of Barack Obama's eligibility as President."

PATHETIC!

:rofl:

[melm00se]

29. C'mon

he's Irish....O'Bama