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Lori Price CLG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 02:13 AM Original message |
Government threatens to break up BBC |
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Calico4000 (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 02:13 AM Response to Original message |
1. Will never happen |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 04:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
59. I wonder now if they see the wisdom in our First Amendment? |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 02:25 AM Response to Original message |
2. Amazing how the same crap is happening in England that's happening here |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 02:28 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. In the UK, the want to break it into smaller parts -- they want to devolve |
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ClintonTyree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 02:26 AM Response to Original message |
3. One more brick........... |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 02:30 AM Response to Original message |
5. Word choice: "threatened" reveals bias of reporting. |
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xxqqqzme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 04:30 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. democratic is NOT |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 04:44 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. "strip the BBC of its long-standing editorial independence" |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 10:54 AM Response to Reply #7 |
19. It's currently a government allowed monopoly with NO Democratic represent- |
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GCP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 02:09 PM Response to Reply #19 |
34. "monopolies are economically inefficient and reduce the quality |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 02:55 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Have any of those shows ended up on prime-time US TV? No. |
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Spentastic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 03:02 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Where do you get your drugs? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 03:05 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. What I'm saying: low production values, thanks to BBC economics |
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Spentastic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 03:09 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Bollocks |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 03:12 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Do you think that the production output of the BBC is the absolute best |
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Spentastic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 05:16 PM Response to Reply #47 |
63. You miss the point |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 06:54 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. I think you miss the point. You're asking people to work as hard as people |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 07:33 PM Response to Reply #47 |
75. What's Good Enough For Prime Time American TV? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 07:57 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. Joss Wheedon was going to produce for Channel 4 a show with Giles from |
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Monkey see Monkey Do (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 08:20 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. It's the BBC |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 08:29 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. If there were more money to do it, it would have happened. But this |
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Monkey see Monkey Do (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 08:46 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. It depends on what you mean |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 08:57 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. I'm Waiting for "State of Play" |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 11:59 PM Response to Reply #82 |
89. You know why shows only go 6-8 episodes in the UK? Because there isn't |
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GCP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 04:32 PM Response to Reply #41 |
58. 'the UK sells a few scripts to be re-made into American shows." |
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goobergunch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 03:06 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. Don't forget Doctor Who! |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 03:10 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. All the money made from licensing Dr Who in the US probably isn't as |
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goobergunch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 03:12 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. I'm not concerned about money here |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 03:16 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. People who work for a living are. Why do you want to deny people who |
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goobergunch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 03:18 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. So you're saying |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 04:49 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. that's exactly what is happening in the US right now |
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goobergunch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 05:15 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. I'm not suprised. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 06:56 PM Response to Reply #54 |
69. Entertainment is crappy because of a private monopoly in the US. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 04:00 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. The World Doesn't Need More Gaffers and Technicians |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 06:58 PM Response to Reply #56 |
70. Gaffers and Technicians have homes with toilets for plumbers to fix. |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 07:11 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. oh, so it's about jobs you say |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 07:53 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. This is very simple. However, you need to focus: |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 09:01 PM Response to Reply #78 |
86. the simple fact is that they are being broken up because they spoke out |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 01:25 AM Response to Reply #78 |
90. "a private monopoly" |
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edzontar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 06:54 PM Response to Reply #51 |
67. So you think AMERICAN media is better? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 07:01 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. Good American TV makes its creators way more $ than great British TV. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 08:55 PM Response to Reply #71 |
84. So What? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 11:54 PM Response to Reply #84 |
88. So what? People in the entertainment business in the UK are working their |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 08:52 PM Response to Reply #42 |
83. With Its Cheesy Sets and Cheap Production |
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Spentastic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 06:22 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Here we go again |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 10:25 AM Response to Reply #5 |
17. No, It's Not |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 10:59 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. The BBC is a flat-taxed financed public entertainment monopoly that holds |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 11:44 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. "top-notch, wealth-producing entertainment industry" |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 03:01 PM Response to Reply #24 |
37. Like any other industry, entertainment is a business, and people who |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 03:10 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. A Culturally Bankrupt Industry |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 03:14 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. ...that employs a lot of people, and could employ more in the US if the |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 04:03 PM Response to Reply #49 |
57. "Just Stay Asleep. Keep Watching TV" |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 07:02 PM Response to Reply #57 |
72. People who work for living making TV shows are trying hard to make |
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Lori Price CLG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 03:15 PM Response to Reply #17 |
50. BBC as 'public servant' --and excellent points, Crisco! |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 03:17 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. They're a public monopoly that is denying a lot of people from carpernters |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 03:43 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Oh, Please |
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Spentastic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 05:13 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. It's also complete shite |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 05:51 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. Actually I Was Wrong |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 07:41 PM Response to Reply #61 |
76. They're all have to compete with a government-subsidized de facto monopoly |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 07:43 PM Response to Reply #55 |
77. Way to devalue intellectual and physical labor! |
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Dover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 06:10 AM Response to Original message |
8. Sounds like they want to chop it up and feed it to the sharks |
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cubsfan6969 (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 06:19 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Censorship on the internet is next |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 07:25 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Gotta have something like Ofcom that BBC is gonna get, 'eh? |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 10:45 AM Response to Reply #9 |
18. I am sure that will work |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 11:23 AM Response to Reply #9 |
23. It can't be done. |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 03:17 PM Response to Reply #23 |
53. Exactly, and this is why they still have Hugo in Venezuela |
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Flagg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 07:30 AM Response to Original message |
12. Somethin's rotten in the United Kingdom |
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GermanDJ (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 08:14 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. I used to have this illusion about Tony Blair |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 11:02 AM Response to Reply #13 |
21. Incidentally, if you read TBDMCB, Pallast's criticisms of Blair are this: |
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Monkey see Monkey Do (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 11:51 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Are you sure? |
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GermanDJ (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 12:35 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. Not true: |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 03:02 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. Read what he writes about Gordon Brown. He criticizes Blair for Brown's |
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Spentastic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 03:05 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Are you able to read? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 03:07 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. I didn't say Pallast didn't criticize Blair. Can you read? |
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Spentastic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 05:24 PM Response to Reply #43 |
64. Yes you did |
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dbt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 09:29 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Damn RIGHT, Flagg! |
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Elidor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
15. A reporter made a mistake, so let's dismantle the whole thing. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 11:03 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. It proved how much power the BBC had to take down a government based |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 11:52 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Which Was the Lie? |
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Spentastic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 12:25 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Proved? How exactly? |
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GermanDJ (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 12:29 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. What lie are you talking about? |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 02:14 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. What I've been reading from AP - He/She is not kidding |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 06:10 PM Response to Reply #22 |
66. actually, it is the GOV that is wielding all the power, based on a lie |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 09:37 PM Response to Reply #22 |
87. It proves how much power the BBC had to take down a government |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
16. That Would Be a Stupid, Stupid Thing |
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Crachet2004 (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
27. This is about Murdoch and Sky News.... |
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fedsron2us (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 01:20 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. The story appeared in the Murdoch owned Sunday Times |
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Matilda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 07:21 PM Response to Reply #32 |
74. Amen to that. |
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zanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-15-04 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
33. BRITS--Don't let it happen! |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 01:35 AM Response to Reply #33 |
91. We can invent it like the Fakers do on the other side of reality |
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Gloria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 01:41 AM Response to Reply #33 |
92. I wake up to the BBC via shortwave and faithfully listen on Sunday |
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