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Adsos Letter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:23 PM Original message |
Soldier alleges military pattern of Christian bias |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
1. Certainly occurred at Air Force Academy |
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hardtravelin (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
2. Sounds like a guy who is not really happy in the Army |
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Adsos Letter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:37 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Is there any noticeable difference between the branches of service? |
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hardtravelin (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I can only tell you about the Army |
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Adsos Letter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. I ETS'd in 1975...I don't remember much of anything in the way of prayer or religious observance... |
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hardtravelin (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:11 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. It varies from unit to unit. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 01:35 AM Response to Reply #6 |
21. I saw a lot in Basic, but once I got to my MI AIT there wasn't. There |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 02:19 AM Response to Reply #6 |
22. My experience parallels your own |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 08:05 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Thats pretty much how I remember |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #6 |
27. You can only tell about your own personal experience |
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14thColony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 10:17 AM Response to Reply #3 |
26. For the Air Force |
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Tempest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. The Air Force is a branch of the Catholic church |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. And all these years I thought they were Protestant |
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Shardik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. As someone who does not believe in prayers at all, |
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Adsos Letter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. I have my beliefs about prayer... |
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Shardik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:57 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. And I believe there is a recommendation for that sort of prayer in the Bible. |
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Adsos Letter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:03 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Agreed... |
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hardtravelin (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:05 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. It is abused by some in the Army |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 11:32 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. I know that a friend of his refused to hold hand during grace... |
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hardtravelin (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 12:27 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. If his lawsuit causes the Military to be more secular, I'm all for it. |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 06:07 PM Response to Reply #17 |
32. Sometimes what looks like institutionalized religion |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 11:49 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. Which is what Jesus said to do, anyway. |
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Adsos Letter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 11:54 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. OT, but... |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 12:49 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. And you as well, adso! |
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Adsos Letter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 01:09 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Winter break...taking the time between Christmas and New Years... |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 08:37 AM Response to Reply #15 |
24. I've been told right here on DU that Matthew 6:5-6 is not an injunction against public prayer.. |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #15 |
33. And the focus is on ...? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-31-08 12:35 AM Response to Reply #2 |
40. PRAYING is already overt proselytizing. |
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sakabatou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
7. This doesn't suprise me. |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
13. Christians? as in who would Jesus shoot? |
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hardtravelin (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Why do you feel that they are mutually exclusive? (n/t) |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 08:44 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. The military is all about killing on the command of others |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. You are correct. |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
30. Does the DoD realize how many religious people, including Christians, commit suicide? nt |
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zelta gaisma (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
34. who's in charge of making the rules... xtians... why is anyone surprised at the bias? |
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crim son (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
35. Doesn't it seem possible that military religiosity may have |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 07:11 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. It hasn't increased in the last 8 years. |
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crim son (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-31-08 12:20 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. You are right, of course. |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
37. This is news? |
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Adsos Letter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-31-08 12:22 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. All the more reason to remind people about it. |
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