BUSH'S GUARD 'ACCUSER' ADMITS FAULTY MEMORY

[demdave]

February 15, 2004 -- Serious doubts have been raised about the stories of two key Alabama National Guard figures who questioned whether President Bush showed up for weekend duty there in the early 1970s.
Retired Brig. Gen. William Turnipseed, the 187th's Tactical Reconnaissance Group's former commander, recanted his statement that he couldn't remember if Bush reported for duty, now saying his memory is faulty because he's in the beginning stages of Alzheimer's disease.

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Turnipseed reversed gear after retired Lt. Col. John "Bill" Calhoun went public to say he remembered Bush well, and that in fact it was Turnipseed, then a colonel, who introduced Bush to him.

http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/17932.htm

P.S.Sorry about the caps...that is how they headlined the story.

[leetrisck]

1. This story is over 4 years old and I'm assuming

he wasn't in the beginning of Alzheimer's at that time. I don't believe his memory is any more faulty than bush - probably much better - the poor man probably doesn't know what to do.

[aquart]

10. Yup. He was sure BEFORE the Alzheimers. Now he's woozy.

[MrTriumph]

2. The pressure is ON

I can only imagine Rove telling his wrecking crew, "If you can't get the answer you want, apply the screws!"

[bucknaked]

3. A Jet pilot who'd rather lick stamps and envelopes....

...than fly jets, is not a member of this particular Fraternity.

[diplomats]

4. And didn't it turn out Calhoun's "recollections"

of Bush in Alabama we before Bush was actually assigned there?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

20. Correct.

[Judi Lynn]

5. Pardon, I misread the story. No post. n/t

[Rageneau]

6. Guys in sunglasses are making a lot of visits these days...

reminding people who never saw Bush in Alabama in 1772 that life is too short to miss seeing Bush in Alabama in 1972, so if they haven't already seen Bush in Alabama in 1972, they'd better do so while there's still time.

[Judi Lynn]

7. Absolutely! Thanks for that post, we needed it.

Welcome to D.U., Rageneau! :hi: :hi: :bounce:

[aquart]

11. LOL! Welcome to DU, Rageneau!

[qanda]

8. This thread from FreeRepublic may add some perspective...

To his "sudden" loss of memory.

I just got off the phone about an hour ago with Brig. Gen. William R. Turnipseed. He is the sole source for the four year old story that Bush was AWOL during his National Guard service.

Mr. Turnipseed is very unhappy with the way what he said "casually" four years ago has been twisted by the "Bush haters" (his words) in the media, especially the Boston Globe (who first reported the story) and the New York Times.

(snip)

He said that when he first spoke to the Boston Globe reporter about this four years ago he didn't realize he was talking to a "Bush hater."

Turnipseed is a strong Bush supporter. He said that he has been contacted many times especially recently, by "Bush haters" in the media, who try to get him to say that Bush was AWOL. Once they realize that he won't cooperate they lose interest in talking to him. When they do quote him, they say he is backpedaling--even though he is still saying the same exact thing he told them four years ago.

(more)


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1073076/posts?page=1,50

[LiberalFighter]

14. What difference does it make if it is a bush hater or an idiot?

Why would he say that he never saw bush to a bush lover.

Is he saying that if he knew it was a bush hater that he would lie by saying that bush was there??? Makes a lot of sense. NOT

[Media_Lies_Daily]

21. Agreed. The truth is the truth, regardless of how it's packaged...

...or where the information comes from.

[LiberalFighter]

17. Scrubbed

[DoctorMyEyes]

28. Yet he remembers the context of the conversation

four years ago (before the onset of his Alzheimers?) with a Boston Globe reporter? That it was "casual" and he didn't know he was talking to a "Bush Hater"?


Curiouser and curiouser....

[Az_lefty]

31. B.S

:shrug: If this Turnipseed is such a strong Bush supporter you would think that he would remember seeing him. Gee, I wonder what changed his mind?

[kittykitty]

9. Noone forgets the service

My father said noone forgets their time of service and who they served with.

The "faulty memories" sound suspicious to me.

[creeksneakers2]

12. Weird Factoids About Turnipseed

The White House told Salon Magazine that Turnipseed contributed $500 to the Edwards campaign. OpenSecrets.org lists a Will Turnipseed from Montgomery AL as a $500 donor to Edwards. Turnipseed now says he is a Bush supporter. Is something funny going on here?

www.opensecrets.org/search.asp

[Karenina]

16. Death threats?

:shrug:

[tom_paine]

32. Or something similar...iron fist in velvet glove

Perhaps it's the NONVIOLENT version of this Rove Gem, "We will fuck him! We will fuck him like he's never been fucked."

I mean, this ISN'T (yet) Nazi Gerany, the Imperials can't just go around Wellstoning everybody indiscriminately.

[LiberalFighter]

18. I checked the Montgomery Polk Directories last week...

and there was at least one other William Turnipseed.

Only one of them was listed with the USAF. He was listed as Wm R Turnipseed Jr.

This Will Turnipseed does not show an occupation filed with the FEC.

[creeksneakers2]

22. Odd though

that the White House would tie Turnipseed to Edwards. They must have been checking out Turnipseed for a smear.

[Dr Fate]

13. Fine. Surely there are many others who remember him then- right?

???

[Media_Lies_Daily]

24. So far it's been Nada, Zippo, Zilch on that front. No witnesses at all...

...the dentist claims he never worked on Junior, Calhoun is talking about a period of time BEFORE Junior supposedly was transferred to the Alabama National Guard, and the two most senior officers at that time in Alabama recall nothing about the man.

[louis-t]

36. Whoa, back up!

when and where did the dentist say he never worked on *? What did I miss? If true, it's just perfect!!

[ConcernedCanuk]

15. Hmmm, - didn't Jessica suffer "memory" problems after the BFEE

.
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had her hospitalized for awhile ?

hmmmm? :shrug:

[Media_Lies_Daily]

23. No. Jessica's only "memory problem" is when she was unconscious for...

...for a short period of time. Everything she has said to the press has been consistently truthful...even to the point of refuting some of the garbage her so-called book author had dumped into her autobiography.

[bushwakker]

19. NY Post - 'nuf sed

[bluestateguy]

25. This has "Karl Rove" written all over it

Seems like the product of a few all-nighters by Rove and his goons.

[tom_paine]

33. Sounds like he was about to be fucked like he'd never been fucked before

Yep.

[Peeance Freeance]

26. Can you say GOTTEN TO?

Knew you could.

[Snellius]

27. What? He forgot that he didn't remember?

I've never heard of anyone who suddenly remembers something they'd forgotten and blames it on a BAD memory.

[nolabels]

30. Here is something fun to do, look up the word "forget" here

http://www.visualthesaurus.com/online/index.html

[kutastha]

29. Odd...

Usually recent memory is lost first in AD.

This is Bushit.

[Zhade]

34. This is from a RIGHTWING SOURCE.

Why the hell are you linking to a known bullshit source...?

[74dodgedart]

35. William Turnipseed an Tom Turnipseed

Does anybody know if Gen Turnipseed was related to Tom Turnipseed (Gov George Wallace's aid and Campaign Manager) ?

Wasn't Winton "Red" Blount somewhat of a segregationist and has anybody asked the president why he volunteered to go to AL and work on a segregationists campaign ?

[louis-t]

37. By the way, I called this on the day it broke on DU!!

As soon as this guy came out and said he didn't remember * showing up, I predicted that the * spin machine would make him into a doddering old fool.