Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Appeals court upholds federal do not call registry, turns aside free speec

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 03:53 PM
Original message
Appeals court upholds federal do not call registry, turns aside free speec
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2004/02/17/appeals_court_upholds_federal_do_not_call_registry_turns_aside_free_speech_challenge/

Appeals court upholds federal do not call registry, turns aside free speech challenge
By Steven K. Paulson, Associated Press, 2/17/2004

DENVER -- A federal appeals court upheld the government's do not call registry Tuesday, dismissing telemarketers' claims that it violates free speech rights and is unfair because it doesn't apply to charitable or political solicitations.

In an anxiously awaited opinion, the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals called the registry "a reasonable fit."

"We hold that the do-not-call registry is a valid commercial speech regulation because it directly advances the government's important interests in safeguarding personal privacy and reducing the danger of telemarketing abuse without burdening an excessive amount of speech," the court said.

The do-not-call registry, which took effect in October, contains more than 56 million phone numbers. Officials in the telemarketing industry did not immediately return calls seeking comment.

The appeals court overturned U.S. District Judge Edward Nottingham of Denver, who said the list violated the telemarketing industry's free-speech rights by barring calls from businesses but not charities.<snip>
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 03:59 PM
Response to Original message
1. Maybe the compromise could be to let both call businesses, but not homes

I think that is the sticky part of the free speech issue in telemarketing.

Another option could be to make it illegal to charge for an unlisted phone number.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. autodialers pick up unlisted!
there is no place to hide!

:-)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 04:30 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. OK then back to let them call other businesses, but not homes

If you prefer to choose with whom you share your phone number, and my business is not included, my freedom of speech ends where your privacy begins.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
damnraddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 07:33 PM
Response to Reply #1
5. I like a different compromise:
limit telemarketers to calling judges who find in their favor.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 04:25 PM
Response to Original message
3. I'm enjoying the peace and quiet of Do Not Call
I used to get a dozen calls a day, nowit's rare for me to get a call. I've got Caller ID, so they don't get picked up anyway.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
smb Donating Member (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 09:40 AM
Response to Original message
6. It's Not A Free Speech Issue
dismissing telemarketers' claims that it violates free speech rights

The only relevant issue is one of property rights -- I am paying for this phone, it's mine, and sales pests don't get to use it if I forbid them to do so.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:13 AM
Response to Reply #6
8. That is correct!
I also don't have to open my door to people I don't want to!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 09:43 AM
Response to Original message
7. Repeat after me:
"CORPORATIONS ARE NOT PEOPLE." :)

"industry's free-speech rights" is a nonsense statement.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:15 AM
Response to Reply #7
9. Adam Smith, the "father" of economics, didn't even
think they were a valid form of business. Since they are people risking others' money, he considered them immoral and inefficient.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 06:33 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC