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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 02:58 PM
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Bush, Rumsfeld should be pursued for torture: UN rapporteur
Source: AFP

BERLIN (AFP) — The UN's special torture rapporteur called on the US Tuesday to pursue former president George W. Bush and defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld for torture and bad treatment of Guantanamo prisoners.

"Judicially speaking, the United States has a clear obligation" to bring proceedings against Bush and Rumsfeld, the United Nations Special Rapporteur on Torture Manfred Nowak said, in remarks to be broadcast on Germany's ZDF television Tuesday evening.

He noted Washington had ratified the UN convention on torture which required "all means, particularly penal law" to be used to bring proceedings against those violating it.

"We have all these documents that are now publicly available that prove that these methods of interrogation were intentionally ordered by Rumsfeld," against detainees at the US prison facility in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, Nowak said.

"But obviously the highest authorities in the United States were aware of this," added Nowak, who authored a UN investigation report on the Guantanamo prison.

Read more: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jEs-XWCHd2efuDAyzptTyvVvoOTA
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:01 PM
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1. 'bout fucking time
Edited on Tue Jan-20-09 03:03 PM by Solly Mack
"Judicially speaking, the United States has a clear obligation" to bring proceedings against Bush and Rumsfeld"
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:03 PM
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2.  'bout fucking time
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:05 PM
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3. I thought I had double posted for a second there
:)
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:13 PM
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7. No you just said it all.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:06 PM
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4. I think that language means that if we don't do anything about it...
...it would fall into the realm of being prosecutable by the International Criminal Court in The Hague.

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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:06 PM
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'bout fucking time
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:06 PM
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5. K&R YES!!!!!!!!!! nt
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:08 PM
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6. K&R.
The caption says "Ronald Rumsfeld".
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proReality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:15 PM
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8. Don't let Cheney off the hook! n/t
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:30 PM
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9. I had a theory that Obama was playing coy about prosecuting
in order not to inspire Bush to issue pre-emptive pardons. I hope I was right.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 06:46 PM
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12. Same here, Bette. I have "prayed" that he's been playing his cards
close to the vest.

President Obama, OMG that felt great to type!, is a brilliant man, an amazing human being and a Constitutional lawyer, exactly the type of man we needed now! :woohoo:

Hope springs, finally, in my heart! :hug: :fistbump: :hi: :toast:
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kenichol Donating Member (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 04:41 PM
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10. Yes nt
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 06:47 PM
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13. Welcome on this historic day, kenichol!
What a beautiful day! :hi:
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 04:57 PM
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11. please oh please oh please oh please...
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:30 PM
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14. don't forget that rolling corpse
cheney!

Obama said Holder will follow the facts where they take him.

We know the facts. We know where they lead. And a smart person doesn't announce to a criminal that they intend to pursue...they just quietly follow the trail until the time is right...
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Titonwan Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:46 PM
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15. boutus fucki timus
I thought I'd get all latin like (home made latin, kinda like road runner (fastus kickassus). Dick Cheney too. ALL of them, as a matter of fact.
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 12:19 AM
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16. I hope he feels the walls starting to close in on him.
He probably doesn't, he's so ignorant.

:grr:
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 02:14 AM
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17. Our international credibility is still at stake
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