MSNBC: Kerry wins Wisconsin!

[jsw_81]

[PROGRESSIVE1]

1. I hope that this is right. Only 33% of the votes have been....

counted and Kerry has barely a point in his favor.

[Jackpine Radical]

2. Too early to call IMHO.

[PaDUer]

6. I concur...n/t

[Just Me]

3. Keep Going Howard!!! You Galvanize the Party!!!!

No ONE,...and I mean NO ONE knows the future.

I do know the present and without Howard Dean,...the Democratic Party would be same ole' poop, different day.

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!! (instead of the same ole' politic we hate)

YOU GOOOOO HOWARD!!!!! DON'T LET ANYTHING STOP YOU!!! When the time comes, YOU will be able to negotiate on behalf of "the people",...when the democratic party cannot do without us, "the people". So, you keep going,...ALL THE WAY!!!!

Your strength and courage and passion will ultimately be the fuel for change :D

[Ramsey]

8. We need Howard

To keep Kerry and Edwards from being too Bush-lite.

[dweller]

4. Flashback....!

"In an eight-page tome, Congressman Waxman comes up with the shocking revelation that Jack
Welch was interested in the results of what was perhaps the most riveting night in the history of
presidential elections and that he supported George W. Bush," NBC spokesman Cory Shields
said. "Not exactly a news flash."

Waxman cited multiple eyewitness sources in its account of Welch's activities on election night.
Aide Phil Schiliro declined to name the sources.

According to Waxman's account, Welch arrived at NBC's election decision desk after 11 p.m.
and said to Sheldon Gawiser, NBC's elections chief, "how much would I have to pay you to call
the race for Bush?" Waxman said the comment may have been made in jest. (my bold)

Gawiser was repeatedly called upon to explain what he was doing as results came in. Waxman
said the request "distracted" Gawiser.

"Efforts were reportedly made during this time period to escort Mr. Welch away from the
decision desk," Waxman wrote. "These efforts did not succeed."

Immediately after Fox News Channel became the first network to call the election for Bush,
Welch "was observed standing behind Dr. Gawiser with a hand on his shoulder, asking why
NBC was not also calling the election for Bush," Waxman wrote.

Shields said NBC would not discuss Welch's specific activities that night. He said they were all
irrelevant, considering NBC said Welch had nothing to do with NBC's decisions.

Waxman said he had no evidence that any of NBC's on-air personnel knew what Welch was
doing or even if he was there.

He said that he "could not disagree more strongly that a congressional investigation jeopardizes
the First Amendment. To the contrary, this is an instance where investigation may be necessary
to preserve the independence of the media."

In an interview with The Associated Press before his retirement Friday, Welch said any
suggestion he tried to influence journalists on election night is "crazy. Just pure crazy."

http://www.henrywaxman.house.gov/issues/issues_other_nbc_elec_cong_says_9_10_01.htm




oooh, bad acid i guess...:crazy:

dp

[Zhade]

25. Woah! Didn't know that (he wasn't my rep at the time).

Go Waxman! Often on the right side. Has to be pushed to do the right thing sometimes, but he does care what we think. I remember after he voted for the IWR, he later came back and basically said "I was really wrong, that was a bad decision, I'm sorry, here's what I'm doing to make up for what I did".

I'm glad to have him as a rep. If only Kerry would show this kind of remorse about his vote, I might respect him a little.

[R Hickey]

5. I voted for Edwards today.

I don't want Kerry to think that he has won the nomination yet. Edwards seems just as electable. The results of Kerry-39% and Edwards-37% are OK with me.

[Allwaysforward]

7. wow the election was close i wounder if the recent scandal had an effect

[54anickel]

10. Not to anyone I spoke with.

[mike1963]

11. There was no scandal. Only a lie from an asshole.

:grr:

[Allwaysforward]

12. clark seem to of thought that it was going to take kerry out

[einniv]

20. That is not correct.

Every piece of the initial story has turned out to be false. Including the idea that Clark thought Kerry was going to implode.
There was no affair so what exactly would Clark be worried about?

The story is dead. Drudge completely discredited (yipiee!!!!!).

[Robbien]

21. Yes the Dittoheads and freepers all say that

The rumor was spred by Clark, they say. No way was it our party that did the smear campaign.

Funny that you believe that is true also.

[kysrsoze]

22. I didn't like Edwards at first, but I think he may be the right choice

He's young, fairly progressive in thought, a Southerner and appears to be much cleaner than Kerry. I don't like the amount of influence Kerry has accepted and he just seems like more of same ol', same ol.

[Zhade]

26. "I don't want Kerry to think that he has won the nomination yet."

I wonder if there are any voters who will vote against Kerry because of his presumptive stance on being the nominee. Maybe it doesn't sit well with people?

Edwards sure made it interesting tonight!

[54anickel]

9. Too weird. The Journal Sentinel had 60% in then changed to 41%

in, right before my eyes. Right now its 48% in with Kerry at 39 and Edwards at 37 Dean at 18

[Thrill]

13. How do we look at this Republican

vote? They voted overwhelmingly for Edwards. Does this mean they voted like this because they want the weakest opponent for Bush? Or is Edwards able to sway Republicans better against Bush?

[54anickel]

15. Republican vote? What are you talking about? There were a lot of

"None of the Above" votes cast on the "Republican" ballots.

[Thrill]

16. ummmm

exit polls showed Repubs voting 30% to Edwards

[R Hickey]

17. I think the Republicans crossing over for Edwards is a good sign.

I believe Wisconsin Republicans are voting for Edwards because they actually like him, and see him as preferable to Bush.

I don't believe Republicans are voting for Edwards to cause mischief for the Democrats, I think they actually prefer him.

[54anickel]

18. Agreed. It's sort of strange to have that question posed to me. That

sort of stuff just doesn't come up in my neck of the woods in WI. Open primaries have been around so long, and not a lot of people even call themselves a Dem or Repub.

[stevebreeze]

19. my brother in law (republican) voted for Edwards

not to pick the weaker but because Edwards is the more conservative and he is fed up with Bush.

[grasswire]

23. over on freerepublic.com

....some of them are claiming to have voted for Edwards just to ensure a protracted primary season for Dems, bleeding out more money.

[54anickel]

14. They don't even have Dane County in yet! (Madison)

edit to add: and only 190 of 462 precincts from Milwaukee county.

[jsw_81]

24. Congrats to John Edwards and his supporters

No matter what happens this year, you can bet that John Edwards has a bright future in the Democratic party. We are very lucky to have him on our side.