Perle:`Heads should roll' over Iraq (wants U.S. intelligence chiefs gone)

[Barrett808]

`Heads should roll' over Iraq
Perle wants U.S. intelligence chiefs to quit
Cites faulty conclusions on Saddam's weapons
ERIC ROSENBERG
SPECIAL TO THE STAR

WASHINGTON—Richard Perle, a chief proponent of last year's U.S. invasion of Iraq, yesterday called for the chiefs of the Central Intelligence Agency and the U.S. Defence Intelligence Agency to step down because of their faulty conclusions that Saddam Hussein possessed mass-killing weapons.

Perle, a close adviser to U.S. Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, said top officials made no attempt to skew the intelligence about Saddam Hussein's alleged weapons of mass destruction. Instead, he implied, top policymakers relied in good faith on the conclusions of the intelligence agencies.

"George Tenet has been at the CIA long enough to assume responsibility for its performance," Perle told reporters, referring to the director of the agency. "There's a record of failure and it should be addressed in some serious way."

"The CIA has an almost perfect record of getting it wrong in relation to the (Persian) Gulf going back to the Shah of Iran," Perle said. He called for "a shakeup" in the U.S. intelligence establishment.

"I think, of course, heads should roll," he said. "When you discover that you have an organization that doesn't get it right time after time, you change the organization, including the people.

"I'd start with the head head," Perle said when asked which heads should roll at the CIA. Perle said the DIA " is in at least as bad shape as CIA (and) needs new management."

(more)

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1077059707877&call_pageid=968332188854&col=968350060724

[GOPisEvil]

1. Include your own head, Rich...you and your gang of dopes thought this up!

[mac2]

68. Dots go back to the White House

All the blame is in one place...WH while drinking Jack Daniels and eating pretzels.

[calimary]

87. I'd start with the "head head" too, richard.

You know who THAT is.

Here's a hint for your short-sighted, narrow-minded, power-mad brain: it goes a LOT higher than George Tenet. But the first name's the same...

[truthspeaker]

2. Good lord, the gall of this man

[htuttle]

13. I'm speechless...

You KNOW that about 1 year ago, Perle was making arguments like, "The CIA wouldn't know WMD if it bit them! Of COURSE Saddam has chemical and biological weapons...Tell the CIA that they are wrong about Hussein disarming...We must invade!"

[UpInArms]

42. here's some background to substantiate your claim

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/nightline/DailyNews/pnac_030310.html

This report originally aired on Nightline on March 5, 2003.

The Plan
Were Neo-Conservatives’ 1998 Memos a Blueprint for Iraq War?


March 10 — Years before George W. Bush entered the White House, and years before the Sept. 11 attacks set the direction of his presidency, a group of influential neo- conservatives hatched a plan to get Saddam Hussein out of power.

The group, the Project for the New American Century, or PNAC, was founded in 1997. Among its supporters were three Republican former officials who were sitting out the Democratic presidency of Bill Clinton: Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney and Paul Wolfowitz.

<snip>

Of the 18 people who signed the letter, 10 are now in the Bush administration. As well as Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz, they include Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage; John Bolton, who is undersecretary of state for disarmament; and Zalmay Khalilzad, the White House liaison to the Iraqi opposition. Other signatories include William Kristol, editor of the conservative Weekly Standard magazine, and Richard Perle, chairman of the advisory Defense Science Board.

...more...

[sandboxface]

85. 9/11 Timeline picks up where the article left off...

http://www.wanttoknow.info/911timeline2pg

[joeunderdog]

58. From Perle's pals in the PNAC brainstorm:

If you want to know where those mean CIA agents got those bad ideas, here is an excerpt from the PNAC website (notice the signatures below)

January 26, 1998

The Honorable William J. Clinton
President of the United States
Washington, DC

Dear Mr. President:

We are writing you because we are convinced that current American policy toward Iraq is not succeeding, and that we may soon face a threat in the Middle East more serious than any we have known since the end of the Cold War. In your upcoming State of the Union Address, you have an opportunity to chart a clear and determined course for meeting this threat. We urge you to seize that opportunity, and to enunciate a new strategy that would secure the interests of the U.S. and our friends and allies around the world. That strategy should aim, above all, at the removal of Saddam Hussein’s regime from power. We stand ready to offer our full support in this difficult but necessary endeavor.

The policy of “containment” of Saddam Hussein has been steadily eroding over the past several months. As recent events have demonstrated, we can no longer depend on our partners in the Gulf War coalition to continue to uphold the sanctions or to punish Saddam when he blocks or evades UN inspections. Our ability to ensure that Saddam Hussein is not producing weapons of mass destruction, therefore, has substantially diminished. Even if full inspections were eventually to resume, which now seems highly unlikely, experience has shown that it is difficult if not impossible to monitor Iraq’s chemical and biological weapons production. The lengthy period during which the inspectors will have been unable to enter many Iraqi facilities has made it even less likely that they will be able to uncover all of Saddam’s secrets. As a result, in the not-too-distant future we will be unable to determine with any reasonable level of confidence whether Iraq does or does not possess such weapons.


snip

We urge you to articulate this aim, and to turn your Administration's attention to implementing a strategy for removing Saddam's regime from power. This will require a full complement of diplomatic, political and military efforts. Although we are fully aware of the dangers and difficulties in implementing this policy, we believe the dangers of failing to do so are far greater. We believe the U.S. has the authority under existing UN resolutions to take the necessary steps, including military steps, to protect our vital interests in the Gulf. In any case, American policy cannot continue to be crippled by a misguided insistence on unanimity in the UN Security Council.

We urge you to act decisively. If you act now to end the threat of weapons of mass destruction against the U.S. or its allies, you will be acting in the most fundamental national security interests of the country. If we accept a course of weakness and drift, we put our interests and our future at risk.

Sincerely,

Elliott Abrams Richard L. Armitage William J. Bennett

Jeffrey Bergner John Bolton Paula Dobriansky

Francis Fukuyama Robert Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad

William Kristol Richard Perle Peter W. Rodman

Donald Rumsfeld William Schneider, Jr. Vin Weber

Paul Wolfowitz R. James Woolsey Robert B. Zoellick


All of the above propogandizing was replayed for your listening pleasure in the months leading up to the misguided, illegal, unnecessary invasion of the unarmed country, Iraq.

[loudnclear]

65. It's a typical Likud response: the best defense is a strong offense

it's been working for them all along.

[Voltaire99]

71. Dean on gaffes

Did Dean ever pay credit to Michael Kinsley for that line?

[Eurobabe]

3. how's bout yours first Dick?

and I am not talking Cheney.

[AndyTiedye]

38. Both Dicks Should Go

> and I am not talking Cheney

[Ripley]

4. Let's start with HIS!

They sure feel empowered to say more and more outrageous things...they have a point, there are a lot of idiots in this country. But at least half of America knows him and his PNAC buddies caused this whole mess.

[tridim]

12. Half of America knows him?

Not even close.. I'd guess that maybe 10% know his name, and 5% know he's PNAC.

[Ripley]

16. I meant that half of America is anti-Bush, therefore

anti-the entire regime of neocons, whether they know all of their names or not.

Obviously not that many know Perle. But they should!

[bahrbearian]

22. Sad but True

[yellowcanine]

5. I agree with Perle! Course we probably disagree about which heads.....

Particularly since my list would be Perle, Rumsfield, Wolfiwitz, Cheney, etc.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

6. Perle's trying the old misdirect play...the OSP is the problem...

...because they have consistently filtered, blocked, and rewritten data from the intel groups before they were seen by the head mucky-mucks. If the information didn't contain anything damaging about Iraq, the OSP didn't want to see it.

If heads roll, Perle should be among the first to go...hopefully in public.

[KoKo]

11. Yep! Disinformation. Make Intelligence heads the scapegoats & pre-empt

criticism. I do see something interesting about this. It says they are starting to "sweat" over 9/11 investigations and so getting out in front of this will cover their sorry butts.....they think.

So, this might be good news that all of it is imploding faster than we might have hoped.

[Womblestuffer]

19. Fire them, then watch them retaliate with the truth

More books please.

[leftchick]

24. You are correct MLD..... OSP and Mr Chalabi

who thinks he is sitting pretty in Baghdad right now. His ass should be in prison with the rest of the neo-cons who planned this war years ago. Nice try at defletion though richy... :eyes:

[salin]

70. Or worse... purge so that the fools who were responsible

get even more free reign for their next misadventures.

[otohara]

7. Tenent Was Just Following Orders

he knew full well what Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Perle, Wolfowitz wanted. They would have fired him if he had said no WMD's existed.

[BigBigBear]

8. Perle's been spoiling for an Iraq war for years

He ought to be thanking all those alleged intel reports giving him and his Stratego-buddies a reason to actually do it.

If Being Loathsome And Wrong were a sport, the trophy would be named after Perle.

[grytpype]

9. No doubt Perle wants to replace Tennet with someone more pliable!

When cons screw up, they don't apologize, they don't try to fix the problem, they just see it as an opportunity to seize more ground.

Like 9/11 gave us the Patriot Act, which was a grab-bag of extra powers the cons had been wanting for years.

[hlthe2b]

10. His hypocrisy seems the least of it... This man is shear evil....

I can't even stand to look at him-- it sends shivers up my spine.

While I hate to resort to the language of good/evil that the Bushies* love so much, in Perle's case, it does seem appropriate.

[Just Me]

28. I agree that Perle is evil,...they don't call him "Prince of Darkness" for

nothing. This man wants an all out world war. He is NOT just sick. He is an evil-doer of the genuine variety!!!

[psychopomp]

64. He is being allowed to do what he does

He is just the bulldog. Others are holding his leash, IMHO.

Him getting invited to the BildeB meeting last year, I take to mean, that if he is setting up the cover for Dumbya and the whole PNAC crew who got this ball rolling then it is because he is being let to do so.

[lovedems]

14. It' s the classic, if I blame someone else, my own guilt won't be

recognized. I see my YOUNG kids do that shit all the time. I don't expect this from a grown man who is a war advisor to the chimp. I am still at a loss that more people don't see through the charade.

[skypilot]

15. Is this guy TRYING to pick a fight with the CIA?!?!

With this declaration by Perle, plus the Valerie Plame scandal and this administration just generally trying to lay the blame at the door of the intelligence community, how much longer before the CIA goes ballistic on these assholes?

[indie_voter]

23. I wonder this too!!

What is going to take for the CIA to get really really angry and begin leaking things?

Say a August 2001 intelligence briefing sent to the president?

Every time I think this cabal has crossed the CIA one too many times, they go one further.

[mac56]

46. If so - he's a much bigger fool than I had guessed.

nm

[ConcernedCanuk]

17. Major "Passing the buck" goin on in the WH neverneverland

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Gotta get the Dems in there and CLEAN HOUSE

Literally!!!!

[Leilani]

18. Perle is one of the most unprincipled people

to ever be connected with our gov.

The Neocons twisted intelligence to get the war they have been yearning for, & now it has blown up in their faces.

Bush won't get rid of Tenet. He needs to keep everyone on the reservation, or it will all unravel.

[rman]

45. a true Straussian;

"Those who are fit to rule are those who realize there is no morality..."

[argyl]

20. I'm convinced.Faulty intelligence.Bush is pure as the driven snow.

How about firing our sterling National Security Advisor,Condi(we had no idea commercial jets could be used as weapons)Rice,while you're blaming everyone else you can think of?

Fire them all.It's going to take more than this to get the Boy King off the hook.

[arcane1]

21. my god, this is the richest bunch of BULLSHIT I've seen in some time

I just can't even think of words to express... I guess you all are in the same state I am: Perle is saying this???

:wtf:

I love how all of a sudden the CIA, etc, are the ones who were claiming that Iraq was about to kill us all, when they were the ones giving the caveats, the "however"s, etc

amazing, stunningly amazing, the way they are able to use their media sychophants to totally re-write the actual events, and deflect the blame away from PERLE HIMSELF

*head explodes*

[opihimoimoi]

30. Its BLAME the MESSENGER time, a distractive attempt to shift

the spot light away from the Chimp.

[nolabels]

55. Think your correct

They are trying to shore up * to make it look like him and cabal had nothing do with the debacle. Trying to paint it like as them being poorly served by the Intelligence community, when in truth the cabal had bypassed the billions of dollars that was spent on such operations.

They went as far as to set up their own little secret quasi grouping to get the words and or reasons,the evidence, false as they may have been, all to defend their actions.

I am quite sure part of this was has to do with Israel's militeristic likud and it's benefactor and defender, the US. They found a way they could get something done they could never do their selves. They were able take Arab attention off of them and put fear into other people they disagree with. Thinking it would roll on to other countrys as it went on, you could bet they were as happy as punch at one time.

The ball has stopped rolling for both of them sides now, what will guys like this traitor Richard Perle do now.

Pulling up this old article
(Yea, we know the source, but look at the dates and how much of it came true)

http://www.rense.com/general29/perl.htm
(snip)
The summary facts are as follows:

On July 8, 1996, Richard Perle, now the Chairman of the Defense Policy Board, an advisory group that reports to Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, presented a written document to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, spelling out a new Israeli foreign policy, calling for a repudiation of the Oslo Accords and the underlying concept of "land for peace"; for the permanent annexation of the entire West Bank and Gaza Strip; and for the elimination of the Saddam Hussein regime in Baghdad, as a first step towards overthrowing or destabilizing the governments of Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. The document was prepared for the Jerusalem and Washington, D.C.-based Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies (IASPS), a think tank financed by Richard Mellon-Scaife. The report, "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm," was co-authored by Perle; Douglas Feith, currently the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Policy; David Wurmser, currently special assistant to State Department chief arms control negotiator John Bolton; and Meyrav Wurmser, now director of Mideast Policy at the Hudson Institute.

Two days after he received the foreign policy blueprint from Perle, Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu delivered a speech before a joint session of the U.S. Congress, which strongly echoed the IASPS outline. The same day, the Wall Street Journal published excerpts from the IASPS document, and the next day, July 11, 1996, the Journal editorially endorsed the Perle document.

Beginning in February 1998, the British government of Prime Minister Tony Blair launched a concerted effort, in league with the Netanyahu government in Israel, and the Perle Israeli agent-of-influence networks inside the United States, to induce President William Clinton to launch a war against Iraq, under precisely the terms spelled out for Netanyahu in the "Clean Break" paper. The war was to be launched, ostensibly, over Iraq's possession of "weapons of mass destruction." United Nations weapons inspectors were, at this time, still on the ground inside Iraq.
(snip)

[ewagner]

31. I'm almost speechless.............

This is the a-hole who manufactured the whole thing to begin with.

Do you think there's dissention in the palace and we're seeing the beginnings of a palace coup?

IOW Pearle is firing a pre-emptive shot to draw attention away from PNAC and OSP?

[bmbmd]

25. Long enought to assume responsibility?

George Tenet has been at the CIA long enough to assume responsibility for its performance," Perle told reporters,"and Bush has been president long enough to assume responsibility for 9/11".

[truthspeaker]

26. this reminds me of those lawsuits you read about in "News of the Weird"

where a convict gets let out of jail, gets caught committing another crime, and then sues the parole system for letting him out and thus enabling him to commit more crimes.

[salinen]

27. Going back to Gulf War 1

our intelligence said that we were going against a huge army, and possibly years of desert warfare. This was the scenario we were fed. It was a four day war. Why do we have a C.I.A?

[nolabels]

29. Well if isn't Mr. Cake Walk himself

Where you been hidding out fella, thought we would forget by now?

http://www.mediamonitors.net/williamhughes56.html

Where is Iraq War Instigator, Richard Perle?
by William Hughes

Perhaps we should take a break on looking for Saddam Hussein, Osama bin Laden, William “Slots” Bennett, or even James J. “Whitey” Bulger. For me, the key question today is: Where is Richard Perle? Before the launching of Iraq War No. 2, in March 20, 2003, Perle, America’s Iago, regularly appeared on TV and cable TV programs, on radio, and in the print media, too. He repeated, ad infinitum, ad nauseam, why it was so absolutely critical for the U.S. to immediately invade Iraq. America was “at risk,” he said, with that ubiquitous smirk on his mug. There wasn’t a moment to lose. “Saddam has WMD,” he told us, and he also “hates America” and poses a dire “threat to our security?” The shifty Perle, the Mother of all Neo-cons, also predicted, like former Defense Department official, Ken Adelman, that a U.S. invasion of Iraq would be a “cakewalk!” It will be “easy,” he boasted. We would also be “exporting democracy” to the Iraqi people, who will “welcome us” with open arms “as liberators,” he claimed over and over again in similar words. Cakewalk! Easy! Exporting Democracy! Liberators! Sure!
(snip)

[RobertSeattle]

32. Oh sure, Fire them now...

Not enough time for them to author a book (and get it cleared) by the November 2004...

[Jackpine Radical]

33. Oooooooooooooh Gooooooooooood!

Richie Rich has now pissed off the CIA even more than they were. They're gonna think of something else to do with their swords besides fall on them.

This remark was incredibly stupid.

[leftchick]

36. LOL...That is the best part about it....

I can't wait to see how the CIA handles this one. Perle is insane AND stupid....

[DenverDem]

34. Guillotines on the White House lawn live on world television.

Perle third in line after W and Haliburton Dick.

That's some capital punishment I could get behind. We need to "send a message" to the treasonous neo-cons (a la Ann the Man).

He's got some great lines here that I completely agree with him on:""When you discover that you have an organization that doesn't get it right time after time, you change the organization, including the people. I'd start with the head head,"

We The People will do this in November.

[BiggJawn]

39. Gallows.

With piano wire nooses...Wipe the scourge of the PNAC Neo-Con from the face of the Earth.

[Dudley_DUright]

35. What is this criminal still doing on the Defense Policy Board?

He should have had to resign his board seat when he stepped down as chair last year.

[salinen]

37. I'd like to see an ending similar to

Godfather 1.

[AndyTiedye]

41. There is a Place in the Hague They Should Visit

[burythehatchet]

63. you and me both

I long for the day

[Stephanie]

40. Perle is cornered like a rat in a trap

The Senate Iraq/Intel committee is closing in on him and his lying neo-con pals.

He's so venal it's like watching a Batman episode, with Perle as The Penguin. It's like a horrible joke.

Perle, you're going DOWN. Pack your bags for Leavenworth, baby! WAR CRIMES, TREASON, INSIDER DEALING.

[havocmom]

49. Wouldn't you just love to know what MATCOM's dad is saying right now?

Ir you're reading the board, Dadcom, breathe deep and keep your blood pressure under control. The nation needs you and your all your former colleagues to stay healthy and help us clean house.

Perle must be pi$$ing himself as the walls start moving in on him.

And to those who wonder when the CIA is gonna get mad and take action: Seems like shrub*s world has been coming unraveled rather quickly since Tenent first 'fell on his sword' some months ago and right after Ms Plame was outed. What makes anyone think there aren't some knowledgeable folks pulling on loose threads to help the unraveling along?

[supernova]

43. Good idea, Richard. Start with YOURSELF!

Good grief, does Perle think we're that stupid? He was one of the main ones aggitating for another Iraq war... for years.

And now that he's been proved wrong, he wants everybody else to pay for it?

Fuck that!

You have no credibility, Resign now!

[rman]

44. because the CIA could not find evidence for WMDs?

the logic is impeccable.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

47. There are no words..........

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

51. how about chutzpah?

perle seems to leading with his chin in this fight.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

56. And thinking with his rear end.

[Sideways]

61. Definition Of Chutzpah

Murdering your parents then crying because you're an orphan. Perle meet kettle.

What a black hearted lout and a stupid fuckwittage to boot.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

66. Couldn't have said it better myself.

I just hope they keep attacking each other like that. Eventually someone's gonna have to snitch or point the finger until one or more of the fuckers fall flat on their face.

[Cassandra]

81. Chutzpah with a capital gall...

as my father would say.

[bluedeminredstate]

48. *shakes head in disbelief*

Maybe now the CIA will be a little more vocal about the OSP and the "informants" and "defectors" that were sent to them courtesy of Chalabi and his friends in the Pentagon.
I can't imagine they will take this shit off one of the very people who fu*ked over the intelligence community by feeding them Chalabi's disinformation.
I never thought I'd be cheering on the CIA, but I'll be waiting for the fireworks to begin... I imagine there are reporters around DC today getting an earful from Langley!

:mad:

[enki23]

50. yes they should. his would be a start

though only a start. and as time goes on, i become increasingly amenable to a literal interpretation of his statement.

[callous taoboy]

52. The old shell game.

:crazy:

[saltpoint]

53. It's bad form to refer to Mr. Perle or anyone else --

-- as a traitorous rat-fucking corporate sleazebag, but it's a phrase that sticks nevertheless.

That Bush hasn't shown this velvet-clad puff adder the door long ago is testament to the administration's colossal moral failure.

[anarchy1999]

54. I WANT PERLE'S HEAD FIRST!

Sorry for the caps, I just don't know how else to scream at this moment.

Sorry mf@#%^*&^&$*%$*&&&!!!!

Sorry, so sorry for the rant. Please forgive me.

This man is truly deserving of the moniker he has come to be known by: "Prince of Darkness", he puts Cheney to shame when it comes down to pure evil. These neocon's are a scary bunch of thugs, they eat their own to save themselves. No conscience, no remorse, just dog eat dog and where's my money.

Wonder what Joe Wilson will have to say on this one.

[calimary]

88. Go ahead and SCREAM!! I need the company!!

Dear anarchy1999, I can't tell you how many times I've either posted just like this or close enough to this, because HOW I FEEL is damned close to this.

This man - NO - I take that back, this despicable excuse for a human being is no MAN. A MAN would own up. A man would take responsibility for his own actions. A MAN would be man-enough to admit when he's wrong.

No apology necessary, my friend. We ALL share this view. November can't come soon enough. Frogmarches can't start soon enough. These guys all deserve nice orange jumpsuits, and one-way tickets to The Hague. This individual deserves a spot at the head of the line. Right along with the "head head." Actually TWO of them. Including another dick. And some cretin named george.

And I'd LOVE to hear what Joseph Wilson has to say about this. I'd love to hear what his former colleagues in the ambassadorial corp, and his wife's former colleagues in the CIA have to say about this. And I'd love to see what they DO about it.

[jmowreader]

57. I have the perfect guy if Perle really wants Tenet gone

This is a case of "be careful what you wish for, you just might get it."

http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/army/tradoc/usaic/mipb/1998-2/HOFbios.htm

Be sure to scroll down to the second honoree, Sergeant Major Raymond J. McKnight. Known to all who know him as "the little mean guy," Sergeant Major McKnight has been described as "the single biggest prick to wear the uniform in the history of the Republic." When McKnight was sergeant major of Field Station Berlin, everybody in the Berlin Command was scared of him, including the US Commander, Berlin. (This is the guy who marched a visiting three-star general from the Pentagon to the barbershop and bought him a crewcut because he thought a three-star general with hair touching his collar was a bad example for the troops. And when they were done, the general started screaming "do you know who I am? Do you have any idea who I am?" and received this response: "Yes I do. You're a soldier in the United States Army who doesn't need a haircut now.") However, he doesn't act like an asshole for no reason; he wants the best for the people he's sworn to serve, and his asshole act--when nothing's going wrong, he is a very nice man--motivates people to quit screwing his charges over.

Make Raymond J. McKnight director of the CIA and Richard Perle will be in jail inside of 72 hours, Wolfowitz right beside him. Cheney will be in the next cell at the end of the week, and Bush before close of business next Friday. He'd round up the entire Office of Special Plans before lunch on the first day and shoot them all himself. McKnight can see when things are wrong, why they're wrong and who's responsible, and he has no problem in going to extremes to fix them. McKnight personally fired three company commanders and two battalion operations officers that I know about, so convening a general court-martial for a sitting pResident wouldn't be that much of a stretch. And yes, all five of those people outranked McKnight. He didn't care.

I can think of plenty of retired officers I'd like to see as DCI--General Paul Menoher, Colonel Jack McGuinness, General Jack McMull, Colonel John Burns, General Harry Soyster, Colonel Wolf Kutter--but if you want the current maladministration cleaned out in a hurry and replaced by reasonable, intelligent people who won't start wars because there's money in it for them, there's only one choice: Raymond J. McKnight.

[salinen]

59. Perle is to Sharon

as Blair is to chimp.

[Ilsa]

60. Un-F^cking-Believable. n/t

[Galley_Queen]

62. HUGE BLACK POT

calling the kettle black.

How stupid do they think we are????????????

Jaysus.

[Dudley_DUright]

67. Josh Marshall is as astonished as we are

Our friend Mr. Perle is giving new meaning to the phrase 'comedy of errors'. Yesterday in Washington he called for the resignation of CIA chief George Tenet and the head the of DIA. "Heads should roll," he said, "not in a punitive or vindictive way. But when you discover you have an organization that doesn't get it right time after time, you change the organization, including the people.... I would start with the head. George Tenet has been at the CIA long enough to assume responsibility for its performance."

Now, this is truly one of those 'where do you start' points of ridiculousness. It's rather like Andy Fastow and Ken Lay calling for heads to roll at the SEC because the government regulators didn't get the whole securities oversight thing quite right. Well, Yes, heads should roll, you say in response. But then when you see the would-be executioners, the rationale and the logic of the thing starts to break down.

<snip>

In any case, if Perle wants to call for others to walk the plank, it's a call he should be making from the waves, not the deck.

Who will take this claptrap seriously? Advice on honing our intelligence processes from a serial enabler of intelligence ridiculousness stretching back two generations.

more...

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2004_02_15.html#002572

[Imalittleteapot]

69. read this

http://www.warblogging.com/

[leftchick]

77. Ha Ha! Lie Alert in PRINT and VIDEO!!....

Thanks for this link Imalittleteapot.....

<Snip>Speaking to Frontline, Perle acknowledged that he was involved in an effort to "reexamine previously collected intelligence to see whether we had explored sufficiently the involvement of Iraqi intelligence with terrorist organization." Perle states that his effort was successful at finding these links, and the CIA and DIA were unsuccessful in finding such links "Because the CIA and the DIA were not looking. They had filtered out the whole set of possibilities, because it was inconsistent with their model."

In his Frontline interview in July of 2003, Perle states "The level of competence on past performance of the Central Intelligence Agency, in this area, is appalling. They are defensive -- and I think quite destructive -- in suggesting that anybody who didn't stand up and salute and accept that the CIA was the source of all wisdom on this is somehow engaged in nefarious activity. really outrageous."

....aka:OSP...IOW The Neocons had the last word on Intel used. He should rot in prison for the rest of his evil life.

[Rex]

72. Perle needs to have his head rolled

Just kidding Heir Ashcroft!

[diamond14]

73. pearle screams; 'Off with their heads"...."bring their heads to me

on a great big silver platter"......


be afraid...be very afraid....these bushies are really madly out of control.....

[ignatius]

74. This man is not only delusional, he is brazen, arrogant and homely

as well. Pointing fingers at the CIA is kind of like something I read and did not realize happened during Cheney's European vacation. He had the audacity to give the pope a crystal dove.

Of course, now that I think about it, that is a fragile and very easily broken thing.

[damnraddem]

75. Hey, Ricky, it's not safe to dis the CIA.

They hold a grudge.

You may be a Perle, but you're no gem.

[0007]

76. Richard Perle is criminally insane

These spinning, lying, double talking, shuffling, stinking thieves' must be stopped.

[gate of the sun]

78. We all know who's head should roll

and it's not the intelligience community. Of course they always have the opportunity to slam bush and perle with a full disclosure of the truth to the American people.

[dw]

79. Perle : foreign relations :: Rove : national politics

Who elected these jerks? They have way too much clout and no responsibility. What Perle thinks or says would have no weight in a real democracy.

[Skittles]

80. they are trying desperately to cover their ass for the election

in doing so, they'll create more wars - with the intelligence community. Put on your seat belts; it's gonna be one hell of a rocky ride.

[tedzbear]

82. Who would he replace Tenet with?

Himself?

[susu369]

83. Hey Dick: How's that Hollinger trial going?

Have you been called to testify yet?

When is this arrogant, loathsome piece of scum going to just go away?

[Mr_Lefty]

84. I hope dumbass takes this chumps advice one more time

Then the arrows will fly- he's got the goods on mr stupid.

[Barrett808]

86. Truly. * is too stupid to fire anybody... n/t