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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 05:03 PM
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Obama executive order favors union labor
Source: Associated Press

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama has issued an executive order backing the use of union labor for large-scale federal construction projects.

The order encourages federal agencies to have construction contractors enter project labor agreements. Those agreements require contractors to negotiate with union officials, recognize union wages and benefits and abide by collective bargaining agreements.

Obama's order restores a Clinton administration rule that was rescinded by President George W. Bush.

It is the fourth union-friendly executive order that Obama has signed since he's been in office.



Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090206/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_labor;_ylt=AiqlCjtZNlWBjloKzXWwsdmyFz4D
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 05:18 PM
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1. Bravo.K & R!
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 05:27 PM
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2. Excellent. The government supporting the unions instead of trying to
destroy 'em.
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 05:30 PM
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3. kr
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cherish44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 05:36 PM
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4. Oh you know the GOP will be pissing their pants about that
nt
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 05:42 PM
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5. tell that to gropenfuhrer, obama!
he needs to hear that!
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 05:50 PM
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6. Well, good god, I'd expect him to. He is a Democratic president.
He would've won without labor. It's nice to see Democrats do what they're elected to do.
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EraOfResponsibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:50 PM
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12. You mean he WOULD NOT have won. Typo there.
:)
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 03:06 AM
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31. No President wins without workers. Sadly, too many workers vote against
their own best interests. Joe the Plumber comes to mind, but thanks to the monumental stupidity of the American media and viewing public, the Republican Party did become in his best interests.
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Robbie88 Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:01 PM
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7. Great!
Nice to see that we have a president who at least appears to have some sense of loyalty to America's workers.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:01 PM
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8. K&R
:kick:
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eyepaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:22 PM
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9. Excellent news.
I think we have a winner with this presidnet of ours.

Oh sure there might be a bump or two along the way, `but I think he'll prevail.
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:23 PM
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10. well.....
:kick:
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EraOfResponsibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:49 PM
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11. thank you Mr. President now PLEASE make sure Hilda Solis confirmation
is not delayed any longer. Republicans are conspiring against her confirmation.
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 07:14 PM
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13. good news! (n/t)
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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 07:27 PM
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14. Excellent!
:kick:
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 07:35 PM
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15. great!
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 07:39 PM
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16. K&R!
:kick:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 07:41 PM
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17. This is a big part of why
we needed Obama..to rescind bush's unending greed.
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 07:46 PM
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18. This made my day... Thanx for posting it
While the detractors point out that 84% of construction worker aren't in a union, they fail to mention that they're free to join one.

Joe the Plumber isn't going to like becoming a union brother to get a high paying government job with health care. He was doing just fine on his own, working odd jobs here & there, and paying his own benefits... when he wasn't unemployed.

This might make a socialist Democrat out of him after the republican party discards him.

Hahahaha k&r
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antimatter98 Donating Member (537 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 08:15 PM
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19. I'm sure there is fine print that obviates Obama's theatrics in this. n/t
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 09:58 PM
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23. ?
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 02:35 AM
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28. You could always, y'know, read the order (nt)
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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 06:11 AM
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33. What Posteritatis said...
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True_Blue_KY_Dem Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 09:33 PM
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20. Bravo!!
The way it should be done. No more scab outfits doing sub-standard work. You will find union jobs have a higher safety record than non-union contractors.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 09:46 PM
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21. Obama is showing muscle and resolve. Very, very good news!
K&R.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 09:54 PM
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22. Educate me please - Are Executive Orders not considered unusual? -
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I find no fault with President Obama's behavior, but I'm curious about these EOs (Executive Orders)

Are not EOs used when the House and Congress just work too slow for the current POTUS's liking?

I WILL be reading all responses,

with thanks.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 02:37 AM
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29. I got the impression they're supposed to be what the term implies
Edited on Sat Feb-07-09 02:38 AM by Posteritatis
Orders to the various departments in the executive branch; the pres is the top dog there as much as with the armed forces (which, after all, are a component of the executive branch). They're limited in what you can decree via them; someone couldn't EO a tax increase, for example, because that's Congress' bailiwick.

Presidents issue them regularly; they're usually marching orders within their branch of government. Most presidents, to the best of my knowlege, issue a few hundred over their term in office. Both Bushes, Clinton, etc., each issued about 200-300.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 03:02 AM
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30. Got google?
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 06:04 PM
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36. Yes I do - and thank you for your concern
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I've googled many issues - and thought someone might be ahead of me on this one

Thanks again for your concern NE

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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 07:50 PM
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43. Google is Indeed your friend...
Presidents often cite executive order to clarify laws passed through Congress which often require vague wording in order to please all political parties involved in their creation, in other words, Congress cannot agree exactly how to implement a law or program. In effect, this leaves the decision to the federal agencies involved and the President that stands at their head. When Congress fails to spell out in detail how a law is to be executed, it leaves the door open for the President to provide those details in the form of Executive Orders. In this case, President Obama rescinded Bush's EO, who had in turn rescinded Clinton's EO.

If Congress does not like what the executive branch is doing, it has two main options. First, it may rewrite or amend a previous law, or spell it out in greater detail how the Executive Branch must act. Just two weeks ago the US Senate rejected an attempt to codify Bush's ban into law. Senator David Vitter, a Republican from Louisiana proposed that his legislation, the Government Neutrality in Contracting Act, be amended into the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act. By a Senate vote of 59-38 the Vitter amendment failed.

Congress is less likely to challenge EOs that deal with foreign policy, national defense, or the implementation and negotiation of treaties, as these are powers granted largely to the President by the Constitution.

n addition to congressional recourse, Executive Orders can be challenged in court, usually on the grounds that the Order deviates from "congressional intent" or exceeds the President's constitutional powers. In one such notable instance, President Harry Truman, was rebuked by the Supreme Court for overstepping the bounds of presidential authority. After World War II, Truman seized control of steel mills across the nation in an effort to settle labor disputes. In response to a challenge of this action, the Supreme Court ruled that the seizure was unconstitutional and exceeded presidential powers because neither the Constitution or any statute authorized the President to seize private businesses to settle labor disputes. For the most part, however, the Court has been fairly tolerant of wide range of executive actions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_order_

http://www.thisnation.com/question/040.html

http://anti-union.blogspot.com/2009/02/president-obama-overturns-bush-ban-of.html
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 12:27 PM
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44. Thanx - I'm a fairly constant googler, but sometimes I feel like asking a knowledgeable board
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Thanks again for the info and links

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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 12:41 PM
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45. You're welcome...
DISCLAIMER: the info/links I provided are only a few basic reasons/methods a President issues EO's. I am certainly NOT expert on the subject.

:hi:
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ChromeFoundry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:01 PM
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24. Good!
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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:05 PM
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25. ME TOO!

K&R!

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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 03:16 AM
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32. All together now.......



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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 06:21 PM
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39. Matewan - right?
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Also to be remembered is Karen Silkwood

but US Kapitalism keeps killing the good people . .

(sigh)

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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 06:27 PM
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40. Norma Rae..
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 11:18 PM
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26. 31
r
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 11:35 PM
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27. Big K&R
I was hoping this was the plan - the "more than one way to" (do something). :)

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NikolaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 03:52 PM
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34. Great News!
:kick:
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 04:55 PM
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35. Fucking finally, we haven't had such a pro labor president since
perhaps Carter, maybe even Kennedy.
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ReliantJ Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 06:10 PM
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38. Yes
Thats awesome
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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 06:40 PM
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41. Welcome to DU!
:hi:
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ReliantJ Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 07:05 PM
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42. Thanks
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 06:06 PM
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37. Now if he can only get the Labor Secretary he wants. . . . n/t
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 08:03 PM
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46. Alright, now let's get to building.
i think we can use 10 or 12 new massive federal buildings here in Philly.
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