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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 04:11 PM
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Navy Missile Cruiser Runs Aground Near Honolulu (really Stuck)
Source: Fox News



HONOLULU — Navy officials say an attempt to pull free a 9,600-ton warship that ran aground off the coast of Honolulu has been unsuccessful.

The U.S. Pacific Fleet says Navy tugboats and salvage ship USS Salvor tried to tow the USS Port Royal early Saturday but the guided missile cruiser remained stuck.

The Navy says it plans to try again after extracting fuel and water from the $1 billion vessel.

The 9,600-ton ship, while carrying guests that included a rear admiral, ran aground Thursday night on a sandy, rocky bottom. The cause of the grounding, as well the extent of the damage to the ship, remains under investigation.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,489590,00.html
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 04:15 PM
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1. Some Captain is about to have a very bad day.
Oops.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 04:18 PM
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4. Yes. as post #3 also noted
I would think that that would be near the top of the "Don't do" list
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Still Sensible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 04:58 PM
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12. And to make it perfect, the rear admiral in charge of
the Pacific fleet was (and reportedly still is) on board. That captain's ass is no doubt already hurting.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 05:41 PM
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19. Ouch. nt
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 07:28 AM
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32. Bet he is updating his resume,
His career has just been zeroed out.
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 11:16 PM
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27. Bad day? Ended career, and probably court-martial with a prison term.

He might as well shoot himself. People all the way down the chain, who were on duty on navigating the ship are probably going to be brought up on charges too.
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 07:29 AM
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33. Doubt prison
He will be relieved of command, probably reprimanded and allowed to retire at the earliest possible date he is eligible to retire.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 04:15 PM
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2. Oops. Looks like somebody took a wrong turn.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 04:16 PM
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3. I'd say there are some naval careers permanently aground. n/t
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Jack Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 04:22 PM
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5. Is this a pattern? Feb '01..USS Greeneville...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Greeneville_(SSN-772)

a couple of weeks into the presidency and a naval incident in HI?

:tinfoilhat: :shrug: :popcorn:
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 04:25 PM
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6. It my have cost a billion dollars, but maybe they should have spent an extra $109.00
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 04:28 PM
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8. Now now now htuttle
you and I know damn well that they have something like that....but theirs cost about $2.3 million or so
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 04:30 PM
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9. Bwaahaha! I have one of those on my little 12' boat.
Oddly enough, I never seem to run aground. I do catch lots of fish, though.
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Sancho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 04:28 PM
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7. Somebody wasn't watching depth gauge! Oops...
Remember that a sub near Hawaii surfaced and sunk a tour boat a few years ago while giving a ride to some guests. Maybe they let the beginners drive when joyriding and showing off.


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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 04:50 PM
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11. Often seems to happen with joyriders aboard,
yes.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 05:33 PM
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17. the Ehimi Maru
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/jared/sink.htm

From the start the question was: how could the sub commander not know there was a ship nearby? Especially since this was a nuclear submarine. How could the commander not check thoroughly before performing a dangerous emergency procedure, a "rapid ascent"?

For two weeks the Navy stonewalled. Information emerged in dribs and drabs. We learned there were civilians on board, but the Navy said: so what?

"Adm. FARGO: These embarkations for civilian people are very routine, and they would not affect the procedures that we use to surface the submarine in any way, shape or form." (CBS EVENING NEWS, February 11, 2001)

Routine? One of the civilians went on TV and with cheerful idiocy revealed that he had actually been at the controls when the sub hit – but:

"I mean, what's important to know here is you don't do anything on this vessel without someone either showing you how to do it, telling you how to do it, or escorting you around." (Washington Post, 2-15-2001)

The presence of a group of 16 oil executives and their wives on board was dismissed in the press as no big deal:

"The Navy routinely invites dignitaries aboard its vessels to bolster public support for its missions. In 1999 the Pacific Fleet's subs hosted 1,132 civilians on 45 trips."(Time, February 26, 2001)

There's that word "routine" again. The implications of routinely allowing 'dignitaries' (i.e., oil executives) to handle nuclear submarines during dangerous procedures for the sake of Public Relations were apparently lost on the mass media.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 07:37 PM
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22. Ehime Maru was not a tour boat
its crew was from a Japanese vocational high school, whose voyage here was supposed to teach them the fishing trade that is the main industry in Ehime prefecture in western Japan. :cry:
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 04:31 PM
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10. The Captain
will have his pink slip shortly.
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 05:07 PM
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13. From now on, the only thing that captain will command is a desk.
His career is toast.
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corruptmewithpower Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 05:10 PM
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14. Perhaps Exxon will hire the captain.
I don't think the navy is very forgiving of those who scrape the bottom paint off their ships.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 05:19 PM
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15. The real money is going to spent when they have to repair the sonar
"bubble" on the front of this thing. Captain Crunch, calling Captain Crunch.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 08:49 PM
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24. Exactly
that is what my husband just told me, millions of dollars, he was a Sonar tech and said that Captain is done.
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 07:35 AM
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34. Actually sonar repair may be the least of the problems
that need to be repaired. A hard grounding can bend the keel. If that happens it has the potential to through the main propulsion machiner out of alignment. That is a repair job that could run into really big bucks. If bad enough, decommissioning the ship may be a viable option.
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SpartanDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 05:28 PM
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16. I would've liked to be a fly on the wall
when the captain has to explain to the admiral what happened I imagine there was some very colorful language used.
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Left Coast2020 Donating Member (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 05:37 PM
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18. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED !
:spank:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 06:15 PM
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20. Indeed
You did WHAT!?!?!

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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 07:31 PM
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21. lets go back to the basics...sounding lines to check fathoms.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 07:42 PM
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23. When I was in the Navy, my ship hit another ship anchored in the harbor. We
were pulling in from a six month med cruise (I was on the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower).

Our Captain was gone the next day -- his career was ruined; he would never make admiral.

Why don't we hold our elected officials to the same standards as our ships' Commanding Officers?
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tencats Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 09:14 PM
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25. Interesting to read comments from U.S. Naval Institute Blog
USS Port Royal (CG 73) Grounding Thread: http://blog.usni.org/?p=1150
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 09:24 PM
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26. This after returning to service after drydock maintenance and upgrades ($18M usd overbudget) nt
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 11:37 PM
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28. Lemme see..... left is port and right is.... Keerunch! nt
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DKRC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 01:03 AM
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29. Made the whales happy tho'
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 02:53 AM
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30. Is this where they're going to put the Gitmo detainees? nt
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 03:55 AM
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31. Last time that Captain let's an Admiral pilot the ship
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 09:17 AM
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35. The captains previous command was on a frigate which draft could have made that passage
brain fart
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 12:06 PM
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36. With all the high tech devices we have - how could this happen?
Edited on Sun Feb-08-09 12:06 PM by ConcernedCanuk
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.
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A 200 dollar fish finder can show you the depth of the water

SOMEONE FUCKED UP

Big Time !!!

doh

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