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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 12:32 PM
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MI5 agent says torture complicity 'proper and lawful'
Source: In the News UK

New allegations of complicity in torture have been levelled against the government amid claims Whitehall told MI5 agents they could question terror suspects they believed had been tortured by foreign security services.

Binyam Mohamed – the last British resident at Guantanamo Bay – is among a group of UK citizens and residents who claim to have been tortured in Pakistan by counterterrorism agents.

The allegations concern whether a formal policy was developed by lawyers and government officials in London which led to Britons being tortured by Pakistani authorities and questioned by UK security forces.

An MI5 agent, who can only be identified as Witness B, told the high court last year under cross-examination that he had questioned Mr Mohamed in Pakistan after his detention despite him being in an "extremely vulnerable position".

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After being asked if the process concerned him, Witness B elaborated: "I was aware that the general question of interviewing detainees had been discussed at length by security service management legal advisers and government, and I acted in this case, as in others, under the strong impression that it was considered to be proper and lawful."

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NorCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 12:44 PM
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1. But you see Mr./Ms. MI5 agent...
people like YOU and George W. Bush DON'T get to MAKE the laws, you simply have to ABIDE by them. And the rest of us are glad that you didn't make them, because torture is/was/always has been illegal.

Saying it's not doesn't make it so...
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 12:45 PM
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2. In other words...he's saying he acted in "good faith"
Bunch of fuckers
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pmorlan1 Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 01:28 PM
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3. The New "I Was Just Following Orders" Defense
"I acted in this case, as in others, under the strong impression that it was considered to be proper and lawful."

The new "I was just following orders" defense.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 01:38 PM
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4. Has a Nuremberg ring to it.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 02:06 PM
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5. Or what might be known these days
as a Hague ring to it.
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