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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 11:08 AM
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Mayor to quit over Obama watermelon e-mail
Source: MSNBC/AP

Calif. politician says image sent to 'small group of friends' was in poor taste


LOS ALAMITOS, Calif. - The mayor of a California city says he will resign after being criticized for sharing an e-mail picture depicting the White House lawn planted with watermelons under the title "No Easter egg hunt this year."

Los Alamitos Mayor Dean Grose issued a statement Thursday saying he is sorry and will step down as mayor at Monday's City Council meeting.

Grose came under fire for sending the picture to what he called "a small group of friends." One of the recipients, a local businesswoman and city volunteer, publicly scolded the mayor for his actions.
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Grose says he accepts that the e-mail was in poor taste and has affected his ability to lead the city.

Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29423045/
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 11:09 AM
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1. Will there be fried chicken served at the resignation ceremony?
:hide:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:33 PM
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29. No but I'm sure Confederate flags will be handed out. n/t
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:35 PM
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30. Nevermind.
Edited on Fri Feb-27-09 02:36 PM by Cleita
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 11:10 AM
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2. Good riddance to the racist fuckwad!
What a fucking dumbass! :thumbsdown:
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 11:12 AM
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3. Good.
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 11:15 AM
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4. Finally, some common sense from this guy.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 11:21 AM
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5. Thank you to the local businessman with the integrity to stand against furtive bigotry.
That's the worst kind of racism, because it is held privately but still affects every decision publicly made. Cudos to the businessman who refused to stay silent and to let it continue to fester in such a high public office.

A person who finds an email like that funny will let that attitude infect every decision he makes. That's where racism hides, and why this nation--despite tremendous gains--is a long way from an equal society.
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:00 PM
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31. Kudos to that businessWOMAN who spoke out
and of course to every businessman who supported her :)
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:05 PM
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32. Egads, you are right! Thanks for the correction! nt
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 11:24 AM
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6. Good Riddance
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flor de jasmim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 11:37 AM
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7. Hold your fire!
You have to admit, he's several steps above Bush/Cheney who did much worse and never considered resigning.
Having said that, I'm VERY GLAD that accountability seems to be coming back.
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Rashel Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 12:11 PM
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13. I'm hoping he was forced to 'quit'.
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Shipwack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 11:41 AM
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8. You have to give him a small amount of credit, though...
1) There's a real admission that what he did was wrong, none of that mealy-mouthed "I'm sorry that people were offended" non-apology crap.

2) He's actually stepping down from his post and not digging his feet in until people grow bored enough to leave him alone...

Unfortunately, this embrace of personal responsibility and putting town before self disqualifies him from ever again holding a position in the Republican party.
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Rashel Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 12:11 PM
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14. I don't give him any credit. He got caught. Otherwise he'd be on his merry bigot way.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:06 PM
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26. He did start with the 'mealy-mouthed' bullshit though
'sorry' people were offended, 'didn't know' that it was a racial stereotype, and other lies...
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:14 PM
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33. Only if it can proven that he had a realistic choice to do otherwise.
Face it, this is exactly the type of bigotry that keeps this nation so segregated, because it's secretive. It's a perfect example of how the Old Boy Network works--racist mayor pretending to be otherwise, maybe not even convinced of his own bigotry, yet still making decisions with that skewed vision to guide him. There was no respect in that photo, there was no concept of equality, there was only a white supremacy that viewed non-whites as inferior and laughable.

Someone outed him, and no one would defend him. I suspect that privately all he was hearing was "You're done, bow out gracefully before you become a national pariah, and worse, unmarketable." If someone can indicate that he resigned out of honor or shame, I'll give him some credit. But until then, I don't. He hasn't earned it.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 11:41 AM
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9. There is no place for bigotry in America
It should be upheld at every level.
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prostock69 Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 11:57 AM
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10. Good!!!! I mailed a letter to him and the city council yesterday letting them have it over this n/t
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 12:00 PM
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11. It's hilarious how many of these people fail to understand the "forward" option on e-mail.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 01:57 PM
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25. he had enough hubris to believe
none of his small circle of friends would turn on him. The fact that someone would forward it or send it never crossed his mind. He felt a sense of safety to indulge this "episode" amongst these people. Little did he know...
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SomeGuyInEagan Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 12:03 PM
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12. Quit?! Should've been promptly and publicly fired before he had the chance! (eom)
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DeadEyeDyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 12:28 PM
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15. If we had elected Mario Cumo President
and someone sent around a cartoon saying somthing along the lines of, "guess the president will have to pardon a pizza for Thanksgiving, instead of a turkey" do you think we would be hear this much flap?
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Mrs. Overall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 12:41 PM
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17. Are you equating pizza and Italians to watermelons and African Americans?
You need to brush up on your history, Dead.
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DeadEyeDyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 12:44 PM
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19. I think the equivocation is the same
they are both ethic cartoons.

Just as Eric Holter said, we are afraid of this dialog?

If we are going to treat people equal, we need to treat people equal!
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Mrs. Overall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 12:50 PM
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21. So, give me an example of an Italian depicted with a pizza that creates the same outrage
as an African American depicted with a watermelon.

I disagree with you. I am married to an Italian American and his family has never expressed hurt or outrage over the many commercials showing Italians eating and enjoying their pizzas.

What if there were commercials depicting African Americans sitting around at a table enjoying their watermelons?

There are some ethnic associations that have social and historical implications that indicate deep and inherent racism.
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DeadEyeDyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 01:28 PM
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22. I agree that this guy was an idiot and what he did was
stupid. I would fire him on those grounds alone.

It wasn't until I read this that I understood what the AG meant. We are all on hair-triggers, and dancing in mine-fields with blind-folds on. With Obama in the Whitehouse, we can finally get past this. But we need to normalize. We need to see each other just as people.

Look, I am black. I am a light-skinned black which brings in a whole different set of dynamics I understand the joke of the email. It is no big deal.
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Rashel Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:16 PM
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27. I don't think he was an "idiot" and "stupid". He's a bigot. He knew what he was doing.
And my lighter skinned daughter just ended a supposed friendship yesterday over bigotry.

Light or dark skinned, don't think for a minuted that this dink of a person doesn't include you.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 04:04 PM
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35. please...it's an offensive and tired stereotype
the type of thing that prevents the dialogue the attorney general was talking about.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 09:58 PM
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39. I am black and I am offended on many levels.
I am in Leadership at my company, by accepting a position of leadership or power along with it comes responsibility. How could this mayor not know that this was inappropriate? How could he send this to people outside of his office to people in the community?

You and all citizens should have higher expectations of elected leaders. Higher expectations for CEO's of big companies. Higher expectations for our representative government.



Since the Reagan years the Republicans have warped this countries sense of decency and common sense. People in power that break rules get an excuse because it was a mistake or it wasn't well thought out and they got to keep their jobs because it was "no big deal". If it were an average joe, someone who is not in power that person would have been fired.

It is a big deal.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 04:38 PM
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37. How about if it said
"Guess the President will have to tell the Godfather to pardon the turkey this year"?
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DemWynner Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 12:38 PM
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16. If this email and how he messed up is any sign
of his intelligence, then they should be happy he is stepping down. First he makes the poor choice to send it out, second, he chooses a black woman to send it to, third he said that he didn't know it was racist. If he did not know it was racist, it also shows he is an idiot and out of touch and should not be mayor anyway.

Conclusion, he is an idiot and should not be mayor anyway.
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sansf Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 12:43 PM
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18. When I sent my email
I never thought that he would be gone before 2010. As hurtful as this and any degradations are, more and more politicians just cannot keep their mouths (and keyboards) quiet. If this gets rid of more of them, I hope they keep talking/writing.
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Mrs. Overall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 12:45 PM
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20. I agree--let them keep talking and revealing themselves. Welcome to DU!
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BadGimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 01:30 PM
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23. A Republican with a sense of accountability - I'm shocked
Good on him for caving to the pressure and not acting like an ass.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 01:50 PM
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24. Good. And I hope it leaves him feeling melon-choly.
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U4ikLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 10:27 PM
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40. lol....good one
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carlyhippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 03:10 PM
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41. maybe next time he will use his melon before he sends racial emails
but I have the feeling his melon is full of mushy rot.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:24 PM
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28. The Immortal Bard says it so well...
"For 'tis the sport to have the enginer / Hoist with his owne petar."

-- Shakespeare, Hamlet III iv.


BOOM! goes the political career!

:nuke:





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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:49 PM
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34. I wonder if people picketed his business, or something of that kind.
Edited on Fri Feb-27-09 03:50 PM by No Elephants
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 04:09 PM
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36. I am so proud of America--that we are calling people out on this shit!
My children do not tolerate racism, even
when it's comments from their "elders".

I was too "well raised" to "contradict my elders"
in public, but my kids call my mother and aunt
out IMMEDIATELY when they slip into their childhood
"the wogs start at Calais" bullshit.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 08:14 PM
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38. Who knew all it would take
would be a watermelon to bring down this guy. He sounds really lovely.:silly:
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 11:15 PM
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42. Mr. Watermelon E-Mail Wants to Stay on Council
By BONNIE BUCK
Updated 9:47 AM PST, Sun, Mar 1, 2009

Dean Grose is set to resign from his mostly ceremonial post of mayor of Los Alamitos at Monday's City Council meeting, but he intends to stay on the council, despite an expected torrent of criticism for forwarding a racist e-mail.

City officials expect an extra large turnout at Monday night's meeting. An additional police presence is planned, Los Alamitos police Capt. Bruce McAlpine told The Orange County Register ...

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Mayor-Who-Sent-Watermelon-E-Mail-Wants-to-Stay-on-Council.html
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