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Belial Donating Member (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:41 PM
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Wal-Mart worker burns self to death in parking lot
Source: Chicago Breaking News

A 58-year-old Wal-Mart employee who said he "couldn't take it anymore" lit himself on fire outside the Bloomingdale store where he worked late Thursday night and was later pronounced dead at a hospital, authorities said this morning.

In an interview, his son said his father went to work last night with nothing seeming out of the ordinary. "This had nothing to do with the economy. I want to make that clear," he said, adding that the family may never know the reason for the public suicide.

The Carol Stream man, who worked the overnight shift, was in a parking lot of an adjacent sporting goods store in the west suburban strip mall when he set himself on fire with lighter fluid around 10 p.m., said Randy Sater, a watch commander with the Bloomingdale Police Department.


Read more: http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/02/wal-mart-worker-immolates-self-in-parking-lot.html
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:44 PM
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1. How bizarre
Edited on Fri Feb-27-09 02:56 PM by liberal N proud
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:53 PM
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4. I hope you mean Bizarre
nt
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:58 PM
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11. I had it spelled close to that originally
I hate when I misspell words that are either spelled correctly in the wrong context or spelled close enough that they select the other in the spell check.

I am terrible at spelling, always have been.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:07 PM
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19. I'm an alright speller
I just can't type. Some words like alright can be tricky for me tho
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:45 PM
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:50 PM
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3. cold. very very cold.
Edited on Fri Feb-27-09 02:51 PM by marylanddem

no matter how bizarre the circumstances, suicide is a tragedy.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:53 PM
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5. Why would the son specifically say...
...that this had "nothing to do with the economy"? and then say, "I want to make that perfectly clear."

How in the hell does this son know, for sure, that it wasn't about the economy?

And why the specific need to make that clear to everyone?
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:59 PM
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12. Maybe people were asking him that, and all we heard was the answer.
Good God, I hope no one here is petty or sick enough to turn this into a political thing, or an anti-Walmart thing, unless there is some evidence that it was.
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Jeep789 Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:03 PM
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17. Guess I am sick then
because any thing having to do with WalMart makes me assume the worst. And WalMart is political period.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:15 PM
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22. You are, then. Using a horrible tragedy to push an unrelated political agenda
is just not right.
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Jeep789 Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:20 PM
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23. You are assuming you are correct about it being unrelated
I think you're misguided. (Notice how even though I don't agree with you, I refuse to stoop to the level of calling you sick?)
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:37 PM
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24. You are the only one assuming, and that assumption is what I'm saying is sick.
I'm reading the article, which clearly says the family doesn't believe it had anything to do with Walmart or the economy. You are saying they are lying, protecting an organization that you believe--completely without any hint of evidence--contributed to a loved one's death. That's despicable.
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Jeep789 Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:42 PM
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25. Love fest for WalMart? I find that despicable
Oops, now I did stoop to your level. All we did was question why the son would say what he did or how he knew. Obviously the man was very upset about something. (Setting one's self on fire is usually a political statement.) Either nobody knew him very well or they aren't telling the truth.
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Jeep789 Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:53 PM
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6. Nothing to do with the economy, loved his job???
Either nobody knew the man very well or they are covering something up.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:55 PM
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7. That's exactly what I said in a previous post...
...in this thread.

Why was the son so insistent that this had absolutely nothing to do with the economy?

How in the hell can that son be so sure?

The guy was was elderly, and was working at Walmart. How could economic circumstances or worries be
immediately ruled out like that?
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Jeep789 Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:58 PM
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10. Maybe he couldn't stand going home to his son
but I'm betting it had to do with the job since it happened at work. And NOBODY loves working at Wal Mart.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:00 PM
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13. He was also an overnight stocker...
The overnight shift is tough on anyone, let alone a 58-year old man.

This guy wasn't working there because he was bored. He was doing it to make a living.

The son does a disservice to his father, if he is covering up the fact that this
suicide was due to the economy or money problems.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:05 PM
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18. Well I kinda enjoyed my job there.
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Jeep789 Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:07 PM
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20. Blasphemy lol nt
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:02 PM
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15. 58 is not elderly
I am content to take the son at his word and leave this matter be. Were it my parent I would be dismayed to know strangers were picking apart my statements and my father's death, looking for political fodder.
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:55 PM
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8. Buddhist Monks burned themselves over Vietnam...
Is this implying that working at Wal-Mart is as horrific as going to war?
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:02 PM
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14. It implies a tremendous personal tragedy.
Beyond that, we know nothing but random snippets that our tabloid media felt would titillate us.
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The abyss Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 05:30 PM
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30. I saw that happen, more than once –
Interesting for me that you would recall those events.

Those monks actually “believed” their position. For them that was the ultimate statement of their belief in right to wrong.

An incredible amount of horror in those years.

I don’t think “Wal-Mart” has much to do with our south east asian travesty of the last century.

None the less thanks for the flash back, I think….
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 06:10 PM
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34. I read that a Buddhist monk burned himself in Tibet recently...
Chinese police shot him. :wtf:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:58 PM
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9. God, that's sad. What an angry way to kill yourself.
That's not a slit wrist or an overdose or a subtle cry for help. That's an angry, violent, destructive method that screams of pain and self-hatred, or self-disgust. He didn't just want to end it all, he wanted to punish himself in the process, and he wanted the world to witness it.

I hope his family can find some peace. Their grief and their inevitable feelings of horror and guilt over this will be devastating.

Shakes me up. I don't why. Too sad to dwell on.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:03 PM
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16. This economy gives many few choices other than Walmart.
I am surprised someone didn't charge him with terrorism, maybe the freepers will.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:14 PM
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21. RIP. While I respect self immolation for making a point, I feel sorry
for people committing suicide just to die.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:46 PM
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26. just a point of information
the overnight people at walmart make considerably more than the regular day-shift people. Speaking as someone who used to work for WM.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:51 PM
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27. "considerably more "
Those two words, when used in the context of Wal Mart, is the difference in being able to buy low quality meat with your potatoes when you get your paycheck. The night differential for most big box stores is an astounding $2.00 an hour.

I am glad you think that is a lot of money.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 05:22 PM
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29. even if it's that
Edited on Fri Feb-27-09 05:23 PM by THUNDER HANDS
that is an extra $4,000 a year. For someone making $23,000 a year, an extra $4,000 is a big deal.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 06:05 PM
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33. $4000 a year before state and federal taxes, withholding, etc.
It's not a big deal, and for you to make it as such is objectionable to me and many others who don't think supporting a family on $27,000 a year gross is acceptable. It becomes about $50 a week net more in a paycheck.

So kind of you to make the number seem so big for Wal Mart.

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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:52 PM
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28. Nothing to do with the economy? He could afford that good anti-depression medication, right?
With those excellent Walmart bennies...
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 05:37 PM
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32. Actually, anti-depression meds...
have been known to cause thoughts of suicide.

Also, prozac is 4$ at Walmart.


Just saying :).
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 05:33 PM
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31. It's February in Chicago.
Have any of you ever been in this area this time of year? Not kidding; everyone I know is borderline crazy/suicidal at this point in the winter.
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AZCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 11:42 PM
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35. It's February here, too.
Not quite the same thing, though. I'd guess there's less S.A.D. in southern Arizona than Chicago. None of that icky white stuff, either.
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DoctorMyEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 07:36 AM
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36. Good point
I'm in Pittsburgh and if spring doesn't arrive soon I'm gonna lose it.
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