Future U.S. workforce to be smaller

[DuctapeFatwa]

The nation's future workforce will be smaller and more diverse, more mobile and more vulnerable to global competition, according to a study conducted for the Labor Department.

Shifting demographics, advances in technology and increases in global trade are the strongest forces shaping the world of work, with big changes on the horizon for workers and employers, said the study by Rand Corp., a think tank based in Santa Monica, Calif.

American workers should brace for continued global outsourcing of manufacturing jobs and high-skilled, white-collar service jobs, a touchy political issue this election year. Outsourcing refers to the loss of American jobs to overseas markets.

http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles/0222workfuture22.html

[kalian]

1. What about the rest of the population...?

:shrug:
Imperial storm troopers?

[DuctapeFatwa]

7. As in other countries that have vestigial to no middle class, they will

do as the poor everywhere do. Some will steal, some will beg, because the US is a wealthier nation and the prison industry is an investor favorite, more will be imprisoned than in Honduras or Malawi.

I think you are sort of correct in that some will be deployed as expendable human resources as the US expands its military operations to bring extra-territorial possessions to heel, and secure its natural resources around the globe.

And of course some will die as a result of domestic anti-terrorism actions, because many people who have been accustomed to a more affluent lifestyle may have some initial adjustment curve..

Lack of access to housing and medical care, combined with more aggressive law-enforcement will assure that business interests are not jeopardized by unmanageable numbers of outstreamed.

[carols]

19. We may soon be one of those countries with no middle class

At least if * ia re-selected.
Carol

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

20. We will need lots of subjects to test new products on

I guess there will be whole states full of people, who will live as guinea pigs for testing everything from pesticides to genetically modified foods.

[saigon68]

21. More Prisons

They are still on a building spree.

More security jobs. More guards to protect the wealthy.

[kayell]

28. Expect pressure on women to leave the work force, this has always

been a big deal for the rw religious crowd. Now in addition to all their usual social reasons, they'll be back to pushing "working women take jobs from men who need to support a family". :eyes:

They want to return us to some mythical wonderland that they imagine as a mix of "Father Knows Best" and the wonders of the robber baron society of the Victorian era. Throw in a hefty dose of "The Handmaid's Tale" just to make sure that everything is good and gawdly.

[saigon68]

29. They had better start the draft

Young women, now make up 20-25% of the Volunteer Army.

[hang a left]

2. I don't think Rand Corp. is a think tank.

n/t

[TheWhitneyBrown]

25. The Rand Corp is THE think tank.

Been around since the 50's. The term 'think tank' was coined to describe what the Rand Corporation did.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

3. Any one actually read the study?

That was a nice "tell you nothing" article

[TXDemGal]

5. Haven't read it, but here's

a link where you can read it as a PDF file:

http://www.rand.org/publications/MG/MG164/

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

6. Thanks I'll check it out

[shanti]

4. geez

of course it will be smaller, the baby boomers are retiring! :eyes:

[meti57b]

8. fewer people having a job means ....

fewer people to purchase goods and services, especially goods and services that they don't really need. That surely isn't going to help make the billionaires into zillionaires.... so what do the out sourcers hope to gain by it all.

[DuctapeFatwa]

17. You will see an increasing shift away from non-defense/energy

As you have already noticed, these minor industries are consolidating, there will not be a need for much more than one large producer of consumer goods, and an increasing consolidation of wealth into a smaller, and wealthier sector.

There is always money to be made in weapons, human beings, and drugs.

[Cocoa]

9. I'll start bracing for it now

thanks Rand Corp.

[hang a left]

10. I am still looking around

The RAND Corporation was created in 1946 by the U.S. Air Force, and is currently led by Dr James A. Thomson, a former member of the National Security Council staff at the White House.

http://thedebate.org/thedebate/headlines.asp

[camero]

11. Translation

You peons must accept our tyranny! Not a chance Rand Corp.

[LiviaOlivia]

12. Did someone mention Soylent Green?

Between this article and the other thread on the secret Pentagon
report on pending environmental disaster I keep seeing Edward G Robinson on a gurney.

[Sugarbleus]

26. LOL ..Livia. I talked about this subject on another thread ...

'Time to go to sleep now..' Then:

"ITS PEEEEEEEEOPLLLLLLLLLE" Oh, yum.

Of course, as we/I age and the healthcare dwindles away, many of us will just drop dead anyway. Thereby eliminating the need to provide anything for a certain portion of the population. Less people, more jobs for the able bodied.

[hang a left]

13. Here is their Board of Trustees

RAND Board of Trustees
Page last modified January 2004

Ronald L. Olson, (Chairman) Partner, Munger, Tolles & Olson LLP

Ann McLaughlin Korologos, (Vice Chairman) Chairman Emeritus, The Aspen Institute; former Secretary of Labor

Carl Bildt, Former Prime Minister of Sweden

Harold Brown, Counselor, Center for Strategic and International Studies

Frank C. Carlucci, Chairman Emeritus, The Carlyle Group

Lovida H. Coleman, Jr., Partner, Sutherland, Asbill & Brennan LLP

Robert Curvin, Retired President, Greentree Foundation

Pedro Jose Greer, Jr., M.D., Assistant Dean, University of Miami School of Medicine

Rita E. Hauser, President, The Hauser Foundation, Inc.

Karen Elliott House, Publisher, The Wall Street Journal; Senior Vice President, Dow Jones and Company, Inc.

Jen-Hsun Huang, President and Chief Executive Officer, NVIDIA Corporation

Paul G. Kaminski, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Technovation, Inc.

Bruce Karatz, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, KB Home

Lydia H. Kennard, Former Executive Director, Los Angeles World Airports

Philip Lader, Chairman, WPP Group

Arthur Levitt, Senior Advisor, The Carlyle Group

Lloyd N. Morrisett, Retired President, The Markle Foundation


Paul H. O'Neill, Former Secretary of the Treasury

Amy B. Pascal, Chairman, Columbia Pictures; Vice Chairman, Sony Pictures Entertainment

Patricia Salas Pineda, Vice President, Legal, Human Resources, Environmental & Government Affairs, and Corporate Secretary, New United Motor Manufacturing, Inc.

John Edward Porter, Partner, Hogan & Hartson

John S. Reed, Retired Chairman, Citigroup

Donald B. Rice, Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer, Agensys, Inc.

James E. Rohr, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, The PNC Financial Services Group

Jerry I. Speyer, President, Tishman Speyer Properties, Inc.

James A. Thomson, President and Chief Executive Officer, RAND

James Q. Wilson, James A. Collins Professor Emeritus of Management, The John E. Anderson Graduate School of Management, University of California, Los Angeles

[bluestateguy]

14. Didn't you get the memo?

American workers need to work harder for less money, longer hours with fewer benefits and less job security. :eyes: However, much sense that may make to some over-intellectualizing Business School professor or at a Wall Street cocktail party, such sentiments will NOT sell in working class communitties, and if the Bush Administration wants to have that debate we should say BRING IT ON.

[cryofan]

15. ...and SKINNIER, too (CorpGovMedia gonna put us on the "3rd world diet"!)

They ALWAYS have our BEST INTERESTS at heart.....

[saigon68]

27. I can't wait

A 1500 per day calorie diet---Yikes

[mhr]

16. RAND Is A Federally Funded Research And Development Center Or FFRDC

RAND, MITRE, Batelle Institute and some others were created to provide the Government with research studies on topics as needed. I worked at MITRE for seven years and there is nothing unusual about this type of study.

[sweetheart]

34. RAND == "Reasearch And No Development"

It split from its partner SDC == "Systems Development Corporation" back in the 60's. It is sited more nicely near the coast whilst SDC is in the back of Santa Monica. Methinks the origins were a bit more military and still are, with a civilian icing on top.

[hang a left]

35. I think they are a CIA front.

[sweetheart]

36. I am inclined to agree

Doesn't Zalmay Khalilzad work there... the central planner for asian
invasions?

[aquart]

18. Future US population will be deader.

We should "brace"????????? They mean die quietly and without a fuss.

I would rather pass legislation restraining CEO compensation, including bonuses, options, and perqs to 40 times the pay of the lowest paid worker in China or anywhere else.

Desperate times call for desperate measures.

And if that doesn't work, the guilotine does.

[jamesinca]

22. That is because nobody will stand up to NAFTA

for starters. Secondly there is a president that is helping this along with the aid of congress and rich pioneer donors, or are they rangers. I started on a republican the other day and sure enough they said that Clinton gave us NAFTA. Well guess what Poppy Bush tried and all he got was the republican vote. Clinton got the needed Dem votes and now that it is a failure, little Bush is doing nothing to stop it. So Bush is just as guilty as Clinton in my mind.

Third, Bush has been promising countries that he will continue to outsource jobs even though states have been objecting. So add that to NAFTA and other adventures into employment and we will have a smaller more mobile source in the future.

[gate of the sun]

23. yeah we'll all be working

at those manufacturing jobs....putting together hamburgers.

This is a huge issue folks....where are we going to work?
This country is heading for disaster and where and who is going to change that?

I'm afraid for our countries ability to deal with this!What are we going to do?

This is one of the reasons that GD forum 2004 is so ablaze....who is going to save our country...for the worker?

If we can't work then What?

[Lithos]

24. But, but, but

Globalisation and off-shoring were supposed to create MORE and BETTER paying jobs for Americans...

NOT!

All it does is give more profits to the rich at the expense of the middle class.

[Lorien]

32. That was always their intention

Connie Rice, Condi's cousin, was on NOW with Bill Moyers this past weekend.She's a dem working to "close the gap between rich and poor", while her cousin, she says, works to "close the gap between the millionaires and the billionaires". :grr:

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

30. The "present" workforce is smaller.

Are they saying it will be tiny?

[rocktivity]

31. Ahem--the CURRENT U.S. workforce is ALREADY smaller

rocknation

[Crachet2004]

33. What did you expect a study for Bush's Labor Dept. to say?

They are trying to create a sense of inevitability about all the jobs going overseas! And it is inevitable with the existing trade treaties we have. And to be fair, it is not all Bush's fault. Clinton and NAAFTA didn't help. Democrats and republicans both support trade treaties that are extremely beneficial to American business and extremely unfair to American Labor!

The power of organized labor in this country has been gutted...and so there is no voice loud enough to counterbalance the siren's song of free trade. If we wanted fair trade, we would be working to build labor up in this country, but the establishment doesn't want that.

I will give the democrats one more chance, but that's it. There is something big brewing and I will tell you what it is: republicans-whitecollar-are now losing THEIR jobs! It was ok for common working people to be outsourced, but now corporations are outsourcing the republican base! It's hard to be a republican when you've been laid off for 18 months and Bush won't even allow an unemployment extension...poetic justice, perhaps, but an opportunity for the Democrat Party.

I don't know if the democrats are able to break the chains of "free" trade, but I hope so. If not, then we must have another party-and I don't mean those silly Greens. Something with some beef, like an American Labour Party. I hope the democrats smarten up, but if not, something will have to give.

[atreides1]

37. Time to Get Ready

With this in mind perhaps it's time to consider doing what the founders of this nation did, fight.

Or we can go along with some of the ideas listed here, thins like 1500 calorie diets, women being forced back into the kitchens, living
in a "Father Knows Best" society, that never existed.

As for me, being a former soldier, and someone who believes that there is a time for talking and a time for fighting. If * wins another term then the time for talking is over, and everyone here and in this country will have to make some very serious decisions.

Will you stand and watch as your family is destroyed by, or will you
stand and fight.

We still have time for talking, but it may soon disappear, and now is the time to decide.

You don't have to make your mind up publicly, but all of us will have to do it eventually.

[davsand]

38. Smaller workforce--I see what this means.

Draft and kill off a generation of young men, keep women pregnant all the time so working is more difficult, and eliminate anything resembling labor unions...

Sounds like they want to continue business as usual for the Asswipe In Chief. It also sounds like he's planning to stick around for another term and they think he can do it.

Can we flee to another nation and claim political asylum simply because we have an IQ beyond that of our (p)Resident or a *russet potato?

Laura

*I place them at about the same levels, and I do not want to hear any crap about insulting potatoes. I like them much better than the Chimp.

[bushwakker]

39. If the GOP wins in '04 that will certainly be true