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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 12:00 PM
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10% of those evacuated from Iraq had mental problems
Edited on Sun Feb-22-04 12:09 PM by JoFerret
http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,FL_mental_021904,00.html
<<That number excludes soldiers who arrived at Landstuhl for physical injuries who also suffer from mental problems. It also excludes soldiers who do not realize they suffer from mental trauma until they returned to the United States.

A veterans' advocate called the data an "alarming" barometer of the psychological toll from the war in Iraq.

"It is an incredible sum and an alarming number," said Wayne Smith, an adviser to the Vietnam Veterans of America Foundation. Smith said the number reflects only a fraction of the mental toll from Iraq. He said soldiers need better help in Iraq and when they return. "This is a wake-up call," Smith said. >>



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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 12:01 PM
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1. And so did 100 per cent of those invading Iraq
Edited on Sun Feb-22-04 12:05 PM by HEyHEY
EDIT: That is a knock intended to Bush and CO
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 12:04 PM
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2. I wonder how many new
McVeighs and Muhammads that we just created. Men are not designed to be killing machines. You just can't flip a switch on and off and not expect a few "malfunctions."
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 12:05 PM
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3. Makes sense...although I believe that numbers are much higher...
Imagine, most of these soldiers were told one thing, which they
believed, and then they found an alternate reality. How did they
cope? What was going on in their minds?
Lets not forget that they also received vaccinations that I'm sure
had indirect consequences as well.

"Support our troops. Bring them home now!"
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 12:07 PM
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4. tip of the iceberg. There will be plenty more problems for these troops
as time passes and they process what went on. Their immediate concerns probably are trying to stay alive.

When they have been home a few years, there will be time for their minds/souls to work through and realize the horrors of war more closely. We must be there for them at those times. Sure seems like the VA won't be funded to take care of them as they should be. And knowing they were used, then thrown aside will only add to their pain.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 12:09 PM
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5. The invisible suffering
:-(
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 12:12 PM
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6. Also, the temperture in Iraq will be rising soon.
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JailForBush Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 12:21 PM
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7. Wow, what's their secret?!
I figure at least 90% of Americans are fruitcakes. If Iraq can reduce that figure to 10%, we neeed to start shipping lots of voting-age citizens over there ASAP!
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 02:09 PM
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8. Not to mention the hidden victims
Edited on Sun Feb-22-04 02:10 PM by JoFerret
This is an alarming but all too believable story of the Iraqi people -- 30 per cent of whom - it says - are suffering mental illness as a result of decades of trauma.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/0C4E500E-495F-412F-9102-3C8822F6769B.htm
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 03:49 PM
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9. Hospital Commander's comments interesting (and honest)
Cornum would not say how many soldiers from Iraq have required hospitalization in Landstuhl's 22-bed in-patient psychiatric facility. Twelve of those beds were occupied one day last week. Hospital data show that 2,489 of the soldiers who have arrived from Iraq have required some kind of in-patient medical care.

Cornum said no soldiers have committed suicide at Landstuhl, but said the hospital has treated soldiers after suicide attempts. She would not say how many and referred questions to the Pentagon.

"That is a sensitive thing that some people might not want you to know, I guess," Cornum said.

Yep, it's a very controlling, secretive WH. Just ask Paul O'Neill, who said WH staff meetings were scripted.
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 06:38 PM
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10. Now what about drug addiction?
That is a problem that will come home to roost in a big way. During Vietnam, for every drug addict coming home there would be four more created as the infrastructure to supply the drugs increased in size.

Talk about trickledown effects.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 06:41 PM
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11. four more created as the infrastructure to supply the drugs increased
Damn man! How much bigger can the CIA get?
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 08:11 PM
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12. This terrifies me.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:12 PM
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13. TERROR, American style ,woo-ooo...
bloody up the red, white and blu-u-u-ue...
Mari, I hold your son in my heart every single moment. HE is NOT the droid they seek and he RETURNS TO YOU SAFE and a bit smarter. So say I.

This situation is DIGUSTING, STUPID, OUT OF CONTROL, ABOUT TO RAIN DESTRUCTION WORLDWIDE and MUST BE STOPPED IN ITS TRACKS. American citizens are the ones who MUST and CAN do it.

Mari, YOU are a true PATRIOT.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 01:37 AM
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14. I used to think that way, now I know it was them all along
To defend my fellow crazies that think they need that white albatross fastened to their necks I offer up this freak.

http://www.military.com/NewContent1/0,14361,FreedomAlliance_021904,00.htm
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