California Court Refuses to Stop Gay Weddings

[Sandpiper]

The California Supreme Court has refused to issue an injunction against the issuing of marriage licenses to same sex couples in San Francisco!


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Calif. Court Refuses to Stop Gay Weddings

By DAVID KRAVETS, Associated Press Writer

SAN FRANCISCO - In yet another setback to conservatives opposed to same-sex marriage, the California Supreme Court declined a request to immediately stop San Francisco from marrying gay couples and to nullify the weddings already performed.

Attorney General Bill Lockyer asked the justices Friday to intervene in the debate while they consider the legality of the marriages. More than 3,400 couples have tied the knot since San Francisco began issuing marriage licenses two weeks ago under the directive of Mayor Gavin Newsom.

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[slinkerwink]

1. good news!

[mitchtv]

5. once the 65yo+ die off

we will fare better in the polls. Mean spirited but true. That demographic is the most virulent-ps I am 59 and hardly ageist. Sorry replied to the wrong post

[Gman]

6. I'll be 50 in a couple of months...

and I agree with you 100% In 25- 30 years the mood of the country will be entirely different.

[IronLionZion]

13. A lot of young men and women are very conservative

The ones I go to school with tend to be pro-war, anti-gay, and very pro-free trade. I was shocked to find people my age (20) who love sending jobs to Asia. They think when they get out of school that they will reap the profits from cheap labor, but don't realize that they might not have a job at all!

[David Dunham]

2. The Sad Fact is that 60% Plus of Americans Oppose Gay Marriage

That fact is not going to change any time soon. It also seems likely that the marriages in California will be ultimately thrown out by the California courts, because of the anti-gay marriage law that was passed several years ago. The California Supreme Court only denied review for now but did order the parties to brief the issue. Massachusetts may well amend its constitution too. And New York's governor is vowing to nullify the NY marraiages. Thus, the gay marriages that are occurring seem unlikely to stand.

[sallyseven]

3. They have to be educated to the fact that this is a right

that everyone should have. Straight or Gay. Isn't it nice that the murican people will allow their rights to be abridged by the rabble. The majority once was for segregation, not letting women vote, censorship, banning booze, etc. That is why asscroft gets away with what he does.

[Bertha Venation]

4. Tough.

We will prevail, David, because civil rights are not subject to plebiscite.

[Vas Liz]

8. Nope

The DOMA passed in 2000 only added section 308.5 CA Family Code. We have the state constitution on our side, which trumps any state code.

[smirkymonkey]

9. Also, in a recent poll, it was shown

that 60% of Americans need to get a freakin'life and mind their own business. :)

[BR_Parkway]

12. No, there's a reason that the judges keep postponing

and it's the same as the Dem candidates - they are giving the American public time to digest - think about 9/11, how quickly did everyone get back to normal in this country, a month or so and it was right back to business as usual.

SF sort of tossed this on the fire (and I love him for doing it)because there wasn't time to prepare the unwashed masses, so they are reacting at the moment.

But every day that goes by, every judge who delays a ruling, every time a candidate says "relax, I'm for equal rights through civil unions" - all allows more and more marriages to take place. As the masses get "ho hum" about, the poll numbers swing. They get back to worrying about real issues. Shrub BLEW it with the timing - he had so much sh*t flying - Plame, Halliburton, no WMD, AWOL - he had to move up the timetable. If he had played this card in Mid Sept, he could have swung the election.

But all during March, April, May, June, July, August, September and October - the common folks of this country are going to realize a few things.

1. The world didn't end cause homos got married
   
2. Their marriage is just as sound (or rocky)as it was before lesbian committments
   
3. The herd mentality as they look around and realize other's are more relaxed about it
   
4. Someone in their family still can't find a job
   
5. Some friend will lose a house, or repo a car because they can't make ends meet
   
6. An older parent needs more drugs that they can't afford
   
7. Another student makes a bomb or takes a gun to their school
   
8. Someone they know loses a child in Iraq and someone else's child comes out of closet to them.
   
9. Gas breaks $2/gallon
   
10. and on, and on, and on
    

Mostly they realize how small a thing this is in terms of what is important to them.

It's the smartest way to win the war, and NOT to get caught up in Rove's preplanned battles.

[Yavin4]

14. That's Not True

I vividly recall the AIDS epidemic's political history. I was 17 when I first heard of the disease. Throughout the 80's and until Magic Johnson's announcement in 1991, no one wanted to even touch the AIDs question. Many people felt that Gays deserved it. Open hostility and violence towards Gays was commonplace, but things have changed somewhat. Better still, the direction that things are going is even better.

Bush is using Gay marriage as a means to rally his base of fundies. He's taking a huge risk that he can appeal to the fundies without looking like a hate mongerer to the independent voters.

[IronLionZion]

7. damn "activist Judges"

j/k

anyone who disagrees with the Republicans is a traitor or an activist.

So what is Tony Scalia? A corrupt judge? and Clarence Thomas? an inactive judge?

[northernsoul]

11. yep, actually upholding the 14th Amendment is pretty activist

Conservatives like judicial activism and federal interference with states' rights just fine, so long at they're the ones doing it

[Lindacooks]

10. fabulous!

eom

[truthisfreedom]

15. hahahaha. what a slap in the face of the thugs!

the thugs will realize, soon enough, that struggling against civil rights causes will ALWAYS backfire on them.

[Darranar]

16. Excellent news!

A :toast: to the California Supreme Court!