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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 10:55 AM
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Obama to sign anti-smoking bill in Rose Garden
Source: AP

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama is set to sign into law an anti-smoking bill that will give the Food and Drug Administration unprecedented authority to regulate tobacco.

Obama is scheduled to sign the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act during an event Monday in the Rose Garden. The law allows the FDA to reduce nicotine in tobacco products, ban candy flavorings and block labels such "low tar" and "light." Tobacco companies also will be required to cover their cartons with large graphic warnings.

The law won't let the FDA ban nicotine or tobacco outright, but the agency will be able to regulate what goes into tobacco products, make public the ingredients and prohibit marketing campaigns, especially those geared toward children.

Anti-smoking advocates looked forward to the bill after years of attempts to control an industry so fundamental to the U.S. that carved tobacco leaves adorn some parts of the Capitol.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090622/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_tobacco_2
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 12:00 PM
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1. Maybe he figures this is the only way he'll manage to quit.
"Stop me before I light up again!"
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 12:32 PM
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3. LOL! I took it that way too.
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tomg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 01:10 PM
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5. Actually he is signing it
outside in the Rose Garden in case he wants to light up right after.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 03:30 PM
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9. Obama signs anti-smoking bill, cites own struggle
I was just going to post this when I saw this thread:
Obama signs anti-smoking bill, cites own struggle

By PHILIP ELLIOTT – 34 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama cited his own long struggle to quit the cigarettes he took up as a teenager as he signed the nation's strongest-ever anti-smoking bill Monday and praised it for providing critically needed protections for future generations.

"The decades-long effort to protect our children from the harmful effects of smoking has finally emerged victorious," Obama said during the sun-splashed Rose Garden signing ceremony.

<snip>

The president has frequently spoken, in the White House and on the campaign trail, of his own struggles to quit smoking. He did so again during the ceremony, bringing it up while criticizing the tobacco industry for marketing its products to young people.

"I know — I was one of these teenagers," Obama said. "I know how difficult it is to break this habit."

<snip>

As president, George W. Bush opposed the legislation and threatened a veto after it passed the House last year. The Obama administration, by contrast, issued a statement declaring strong support for the measure.


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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 08:37 PM
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20. What a contrast between Obama
and bush. I smoked for two years in the '70's and had the hardest time quitting but so glad I was able to back then.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 12:12 PM
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2. Canada has this already
Edited on Mon Jun-22-09 12:13 PM by TrogL
It's been fairly effective but it won't stop a hard-core smoker.

One thing we have in addition to this is as an almost complete ban on tobacco advertising. Stores can't even display them on the shelves. The cigarettes are in a special locked cabinet under or behind the counter.

There are also huge fines for selling to underage smokers and regular sting operations to catch offenders.
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raystorm7 Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 01:03 PM
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4. Regs on Smoking is easy...how about them guns Obama? or we need more deaths this year =/
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Deadric Damodred Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 03:30 PM
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10. And what are your suggestions for gun regulations?
Keep in mind that the Supreme Court has ruled that gun ownership is an individual civil right, and that you can not ban firearms in common use for lawful purposes. And yes, semi-automatic handguns & semi-automatic rifles (even the ones that "look scary") are common; they're everywhere, sales on them are ridculously high, and they are used for the lawful purposes of home self-defense, target shooting, and hunting. And yes, a semi-automatic AK-47 clone is commonly owned; just like the AR-15 is commonly owned. So let's hear some suggestions that do not violate the constitution and the recent victory from the Heller v D.C.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 07:46 PM
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13. There's no specific Constitutional right to Marlboros. nt
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 08:33 PM
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19. Seriously.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 01:52 PM
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6. The "no light cigarettes" part is what confuses me
According to this new law, they won't be allowed to call certain cigarettes Lights or Milds. Umm...what exactly do they plan to call Marlboro Lights, Winston Lights, Salem Lights...basically, every cigarette brand has either "lights" or "milds" as one of its styles.

The law is HR 1256...let's see what's actually in here...the bill's fucking huge, so it's going to take a while to read...
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 07:49 PM
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14. Many will use color words.
Misty has already switched "Lights" to "Rose." Expect Marlboro Whites or something very similar. That distinguishes the variety while not making a subtle claim to safety.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 09:20 PM
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22. Probably Marlboro Gold
I can see a confusion there, of course: why would someone smoke "Misty Rose" instead of "Misty"?
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 09:53 PM
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24. The "Rose" designates an ultra light.
Blue is light, Green is menthol, and Silver a menthol ultralight.

I only know 'cause I sell this shit. ;)
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 09:52 AM
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29. If you are referring to Marlboros,
the silver is not a menthol. It is just plain ultra light. I should know because that's my brand.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 10:22 AM
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31. I think the poster is referring to Mistys
What would it be with Marlboros...

Regular Marlboro -- Marlboro Red
Marlboro Light -- Marlboro Gold
Marlboro Ultra Light -- Marlboro Silver

They've got Marlboro Mediums, which would probably be allowed, Marlboro Menthols, which would be allowed, and a couple of "blends"--Blend no 27, Virginia Blend--that would be okay. How I know this I cannot say because I don't smoke cigarettes...
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 03:18 PM
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7. Just heard an in-person report on the signing ...
from Georges Benjamin, Executive Director of the American Public Health Association -- he was late to the Governing Council conference call because he attended the signing.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 03:26 PM
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8. Another misleading AP headline

This isn't an anti-smoking bill.

Nothing in the bill is meant to prevent smokers from lighting up. All it does is make the companies accountable and slaps a warning smokers will ignore.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 08:40 PM
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21. Yes, it bans cloves and other non-menthol flavored cigarettes.
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mrbarber Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 06:38 PM
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11. Hope that "candy flavoring" ban....
Doesn't include Hookah tobacco.
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 07:41 PM
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12. Exactly. I actually think this law is dumb.
It is another example of government trying to tell us what we can and can not put in to our body. I don't smoke (although I do smoke the occasional hookah) but I do not support this.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 08:32 PM
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18. Same here. Ex-casual smoker here, and I think this bill is horrible.
The Republicans want to shove religion down our throats and control what we do in our bedrooms, and it seems the Dems want to tell us what to eat and what (not) to smoke. Yuck.

And for all of the people who think that the marijuana decrim bill will pass...keep dreaming.
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Zavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 10:36 PM
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25. +1.
This is one of those instances where those crying "too much government" have a real point. I fucking loathe this bill.
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Norwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 08:26 PM
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36. I agree as well
Why are we wasting time on bills like this at all? So what are we gonna do now just ban errr I mean put restrictions on everything that isn't necessarily healthy for us?

Whats next fast food or any other type of unhealthy types of food? Taxes on foods high in saturated fats,sugars, etc? It fucking pisses me off!
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EndersDame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 02:23 AM
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38. That would make me very sad as well
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 08:14 PM
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15. WONDERFUL
it's about time, THANK YOU President Obama! :applause: :yourock:
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 08:31 PM
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17. Great, yeah, ban more stuff. Oh, but back DOMA. blech.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 07:58 PM
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35. Some of us don't
Edited on Tue Jun-23-09 08:07 PM by Raine
like having our cancer rick increased by involuntarily breathing in someone else's addiction. Good for President Obama, less people addicted to tobacco in the future and better health for all. :thumbsup:


Edit: spelling
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 08:30 PM
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16. Clove cigarettes are banned now? Sorry, but this is ridiculous.
I used to smoke maybe one of these a week, if that, but I liked the taste. Why can't adults choose what they want to put in their bodies? I can't believe people support this!
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 09:26 PM
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23. But...but...but...think of the CHILDREN!!!
In the findings:

(4) Virtually all new users of tobacco products are under the minimum legal age to purchase such products.

Therefore they must ban kreteks because children might smoke them, even though they're not legally entitled to smoke them now and that never stopped anyone.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 09:03 AM
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27. Because you're not just putting it in your body. You're exposing everyone else to it to.
This is why smoking has become unacceptable in society.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 09:49 AM
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28. A lifetime non smoker, I used clove cigarettes when I needed to smoke on
stage once. The following week there was news story about 10 or 20 people dying from clove cigarettes. No point really, just irony & nostalgia.
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newinnm Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 10:59 AM
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34. Its only bad
When the repubs put their will on us. When the Dems do it then its ok.

-nnnm
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Sweet and Spicy Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 10:39 PM
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26. I urge people not to smoke
The chances of cancer are deeply increased with every inhalation of Nicotine. Another good move by President Obama.
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newinnm Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 10:14 AM
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30. Keep the Government out of my life
As soon as Obama stops smoking then he will have some credibility on this issue. Until then, Ill smoke if I want to and if anyone has a problem with it they can go to hell.


-nnnm
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 10:23 AM
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32. Except when you want single payer healthcare
to cover smokers? :shrug:
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newinnm Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 10:26 AM
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33. What about over eaters
or people who fuck around and are more exposed to STD's or to the couch potato...


-nnnm
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 08:34 PM
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37. They're all okay
We just hate smokers. Except the President.
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EndersDame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 02:26 AM
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39. I hope the Candy flavoring ban doesn't extend to rolling papers
or Black and Milds! Maybe they could only be legal if you are using them for non tobacco products :P
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