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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 11:18 AM
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Pakistan says Taliban leader will talk to U.S.
Source: CNN

(CNN) -- Pakistan's military has declared that not only is it in contact with Afghan Taliban leader Mullah Mohammed Omar but that it can bring him and other commanders to the negotiating table with the United States.

The acknowledgment of on-going communication with Taliban forces using sanctuary in Pakistan to launch military strikes against U.S. troops in neighboring Afghanistan is part of a new diplomatic overture to help the Obama administration find an end to the long-running conflict.

In a CNN exclusive interview, Pakistan military spokesman Maj. Gen. Athar Abbas said in return for any role as a broker between the United States and the Taliban, Pakistan wants concessions from Washington over Islamabad's concerns with longtime rival India.

And senior U.S. officials have told CNN the Obama Administration is willing both to talk to top Taliban leaders and to raise some of Pakistan's concerns with India.



Read more: http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/07/10/pakistan.taliban.omar/
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 11:23 AM
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1. Omar
needs funding for building to execute people in. Those cheapskate Europeans would only fund a football field.
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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 11:38 AM
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2. Who will Obama will send to negotiate?
Hillary?
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 04:23 PM
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4. Kissinger. He went to Paris to negotiate with the North Vietnamese.
not.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 04:58 PM
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5. "The Predator" is negotiating
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cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 12:43 PM
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3. This is proof of Pakistani complicity
As I have always maintained, Taliban is a Pakistani creation to further terrorism as the official state policy. Why didn't the Pakistani military arrest Mullah Omar since he has been wanted by the US since 2001?

It is Pakistan that needs to be balkanized and its military/ISI castrated for the world to have peace.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 09:17 PM
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6. Taliban know how to deal with "peace committees" when THEY hold the upper hand
Edited on Fri Jul-10-09 09:22 PM by ohio2007
June 25, 2008
Pakistani Taliban Cited in 22 Slayings

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — The bodies of 22 members of a government-sponsored peace committee were found dumped near South Waziristan on Wednesday after fighting broke out between the Pakistani Taliban and a rival tribe, government officials said. The peace committee was attacked by supporters of Baitullah Mehsud, the head of the Pakistani Taliban, in the town of Jandola on Monday, not far from the Afghan border and about 200 miles west of Peshawar, the capital of the North-West Frontier Province

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Some of the 22 bodies had bullet wounds, others had been slashed with knives, Mr. Marwat said. The killings come after the Pakistani Army negotiated a ceasefire with Mr. Mehsud’s forces earlier this year, and pulled its soldiers back from Mr. Mehsud’s territory in South Waziristan. Under the terms of the accord, the military has exchanged prisoners with Mr. Mehsud’s forces.


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In addition to the 22 peace committee members found dead, another 15 men from the Bhittani tribe and three militants were killed, Mr. Marwat, the district officer said.

The operation by Mr. Mehsud was described as particularly brutal because it singled out men in the 200- to 300-strong peace committee that had been formed under the auspices of the government last year.

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3366273#3368458



attention Barack Hussein Obama ;



Your drones cannot defeat our fighters







We are ready to negotiate in good faith.
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Naipes Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 09:31 PM
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7. FUCK the Taliban
Wipe those right-winged sanctimonious assholes off the face of the planet. fuck their ideology, fuck all they stand for, fuck them.

No concessions. they will stab us in the back, guaranteed. they need to be exterminated, NOW!
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 09:52 PM
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8. I don't see the upside of negotiating with the Taliban.
They will see it only as weakness.
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Flaneur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-11-09 12:39 PM
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14. Maybe President Karzai knows something you don't know.
Afghanistan's Karzai urges Taliban to negotiate | International ...Sep 11, 2007 ... KABUL (Reuters) - Afghan President Hamid Karzai urged his Islamist Taliban foes to negotiate peace on Tuesday, the sixth anniversary of the ...
www.reuters.com/article/.../idUSCOL21141620070911 - Cached - Similar -

Karzai 'already in talks with allies of former Taliban leader ...Dec 13, 2007 ... When Mr Brown visited Afghanistan on Monday, Mr Karzai admitted he had met a number of senior Taliban commanders in person to negotiate a ...
www.independent.co.uk/.../karzai-already-in-talks-with-allies-of-former-taliban-leader-764796.html - Cached - Similar -

Karzai Seeks Help Negotiating With Taliban - CBS NewsSep 30, 2008 ... Afghan President Has Requested Help Of Saudi King In Thus-Far Fruitless Talks.
www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/.../main4488228.shtml?... - Cached - Similar -
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-11-09 07:15 AM
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9. Taliban admit drones are working, have forced them to rethink their attack strategy
(video)
al Qaeda Admits US Drone Attacks Working

U.S. Drones Have Al Qaeda On The Run
CBS News
It's not often the enemy tells you something you're doing -- strikes by CIA drones against al Qaeda sanctuaries in Pakistan -- is working.But in this document posted on the Web, a top al Qaeda commander writes: "The harm is alarming. The matter is very grave."Both senior government officials and outside experts say it is an extraordinary confession, reports CBS News correspondent David Martin.

"It exposes for the first time a level of paranoia and a level of self-consciousness and a lack of confidence in al Qaeda's leadership in their propaganda that we just haven't seen up until now," said Nicholas Schmidle, the author of "To Live or to Perish Forever: Two Tumultuous Years in Pakistan."

In the past year, the CIA has flown more than 50 drone strikes in Pakistan, killing half of al Qaeda's top leaders and hundreds of its fighters, CBS News reports. One senior official said the central leadership of al Qaeda is under more pressure now than at any time since the bombing of Tora Bora in 2001.

The document blames the accuracy of the strikes on "spies … (who) have spread throughout the land like locusts … So many brave commanders have been snatched away … so many hidden homes have been leveled."

"The accuracy of these drone strikes has been so remarkable -----there's not even been an attempt by al Qaeda or the Taliban to offer a counter narrative to say that no there were actually women and children that were killed. There's been nothing but silence," said Schmidle.

The predator strikes do cause civilian casualties, but one senior official claimed more innocent people have been executed by al Qaeda as suspected spies than killed by CIA drones.
Jul 10, 2009 8:17 pm US/Pacific

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ebf_1247288490



yeah, lets talk to them at a neutral location such as


Cuba


Huge truck bomb kills 12 schoolchildren as 'spectacular' attack by Taleban goes awry

Taleban militants detonated a huge truck bomb south of the capital Kabul this morning killing 25 people, including 12 primary school children, according to local officials. However, officials said they suspected the device was detonated prematurely after the truck crashed and had been intended for a "spectacular" attack on a target in Kabul ahead of presidential elections in August.

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“21 of the dead are civilians and four are policemen. Three nearby shops have been completely destroyed.” Abdul Hamid, the district governor of Mohammad Agha, said that 12 of the dead were children attending a boy’s primary school close to the scene.

The police chief of Logar, Mustafa Khan, said that he believed that the truck was intended for a target in Kabul.

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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6673228.ece



As always, they only have to get lucky once. This wasn't one of those times but they still have time to get lucky before,during and after the August elections imo.

If they can scrape enough delusional young minds down on the farm and or special ed. schools
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-11-09 07:55 AM
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10. I wonder if the Afghan "surge" has got the Talibangers convinced CIC Obama means business.
Talk with them -- why not? What harm would it do? We can always go back to bombing the crap out of them.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-11-09 12:50 PM
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15. Taliban deny any talk of this "trial baloon" article...beheadings expected later today
CNN’s claim baseless: ISPR

ISLAMABAD: A spokesman for the ISPR on Friday denied the remarks attributed to chief military spokesman Maj Gen Athar Abbas in an interview with CNN. Quoting Abbas from an exclusive interview, CNN had claimed that the Pakistani military was in contact with Taliban leaders and could bring them to the negotiating table with the US. “The remarks attributed to the ISPR director general are totally baseless, fabricated and unfounded and out of context ... the ISPR rejects them,” said the spokesman. staff report



http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2009
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