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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 07:47 PM
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Goldman Sachs Likely to Post Huge Profits, Analysts Say
Source: New York Times

Most of Wall Street, and America, is still waiting for an economic recovery. Then there is Goldman Sachs.

Up and down Wall Street, analysts and traders are buzzing that Goldman, which only recently paid back its government bailout money, will report blowout profits from trading on Tuesday.

Analysts predict the bank earned more than $2 billion in the March-June period, thanks to its trading prowess across world markets. If they are right, the bank’s rivals will once again be left to wonder exactly how Goldman, long the envy of Wall Street, could have rebounded so dramatically only months after the nation’s financial industry was shaken to its foundations.

The obsessive speculation has already begun, along with banter about how Goldman’s rapid return to minting money will be perceived by lawmakers and taxpayers who aided Goldman with a multibillion-dollar cushion last fall. . .

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/13/business/13goldman.html?_r=1&hp



We are all fools who can never win in our quest for a decent society.

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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 07:49 PM
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1. There must be *some* way the govt can help them hide all the money they're making, surely?
What a hardship!
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 09:06 AM
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21. Goldman Sachs’s Tax Rate Drops to 1%
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ldf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 07:51 PM
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2. GS is the epitome of everything that is wrong
with wall street.

of course they are going to profit. they are always one step ahead, because they gamed the system.

they need to be in jail.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 08:02 PM
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3. well someone is making money....but in my home town....
250 employees who just lost their jobs forever this week ain`t making money.

'the factory is closing boys and it ain`t coming back....in my hometown'
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 08:19 PM
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4. Potterville
Tragic.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 08:40 PM
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5. recommend
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 09:14 PM
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10. Thank you. Indeed.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 08:55 PM
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6. "Blow-out profits"
= money given to them by the gov't through their money-launderer AIG.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 01:52 PM
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19. more info on the money-laundering aspect?
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NeoConsSuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 04:45 AM
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20. Ding Ding Ding!
we have a winner. The AIG bailout was nothing more than a conduit to re-capitalize the banking industry, both domestic and foreign. And GS was one of the biggest benefactors.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 09:00 PM
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7. Of course they will....
after all they have a software program that manipulates the market...they 'frontrun' and 'tailgate.' And now that Lehman Bros. (which Paulsen let go under....and of course Paulsen was Goldman's Ceo for years) is gone, they have no real competition. They're the only Investment firm out there NOT OWNED BY A BANK.

These evil fatherfuckers rule the world. I hope they have to eat money to survive. Oh, btw, the administration knows all of this. They work hand in hand w/ Goldman. It's called fascism.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 09:13 PM
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9. And every treasury sec and other banking muckety muck is affiliated with them
We should abolish this crooked firm PRONTO
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 11:29 PM
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17. They are the worst of the worst. nt.
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 10:07 PM
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12. Actually I think they became a bank.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 11:28 PM
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16. Yes, they became a 'bank
holding company' so they could get bailout $$$$s. But they are still a 'stand alone' company. Merrill Lynch was bought by B of A as were all the rest of Wall Street BROKERAGE FIRMS.

The MSM now calls them ALL banks....which is total Bullshit.

I can't believe people aren't clamoring for reinstatement of Glass-Steagall. Americans are stupid now. Ripped-off, dumb, and angry...not a good combo.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 09:01 PM
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8. Get 'em while they're hot!
Edited on Sun Jul-12-09 09:01 PM by DJ13

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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 09:56 PM
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11. matt taibbi on GS' pernicious, to say the least, influence:
there was a thread or two on this in GD the other day. here's the article

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3159732

THE GREAT AMERICAN BUBBLE MACHINE

From tech stocks to high gas prices, Goldman Sachs has engineered every major market manipulation since the Great Depression - and they're about to do it again

By MATT TAIBBI

The first thing you need to know about Goldman Sachs is that it's everywhere. The world's most powerful investment bank is a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money. In fact, the history of the recent financial crisis, which doubles as a history of the rapid decline and fall of the suddenly swindled-dry American empire, reads like a Who's Who of Goldman Sachs graduates.

By now, most of us know the major players. As George Bush's last Treasury secretary, former Goldman CEO Henry Paulson was the architect of the bailout, a suspiciously self-serving plan to funnel trillions of Your Dollars to a handful of his old friends on Wall Street. Robert Rubin, Bill Clinton's former Treasury secretary, spent 26 years at Goldman before becoming chairman of Citigroup - which in turn got a $300 billion taxpayer bailout from Paulson. There's John Thain, the rear end in a top hat chief of Merrill Lynch who bought an $87,000 area rug for his office as his company was imploding; a former Goldman banker, Thain enjoyed a multibillion-dollar handout from Paulson, who used billions in taxpayer funds to help Bank of America rescue Thain's sorry company. And Robert Steel, the former Goldmanite head of Wachovia, scored himself and his fellow executives $225 million in golden parachute payments as his bank was self-destructing. There's Joshua Bolten, Bush's chief of staff during the bailout, and Mark Patterson, the current Treasury chief of staff, who was a Goldman lobbyist just a year ago, and Ed Liddy, the former Goldman director whom Paulson put in charge of bailed-out insurance giant AIG, which forked over $13 billion to Goldman after Liddy came on board. The heads of the Canadian and Italian national banks are Goldman alums, as is the head of the World Bank, the head of the New York Stock Exchange, the last two heads of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York - which, incidentally, is now in charge of overseeing Goldman - not to mention ...

But then, any attempt to construct a narrative around all the former Goldmanites in influential positions quickly becomes an absurd and pointless exercise, like trying to make a list of everything. What you need to know is the big picture: If America is circling the drain, Goldman Sachs has found a way to be that drain - an extremely unfortunate loophole in the system of Western democratic capitalism, which never foresaw that in a society governed passively by free markets and free elections, organized greed always defeats disorganized democracy.

The bank's unprecedented reach and power have enabled it to turn all of America into a giant pump-and-dump scam, manipulating whole economic sectors for years at a time, moving the dice game as this or that market collapses, and all the time gorging itself on the unseen costs that are breaking families everywhere - high gas prices, rising consumer-credit rates, half-eaten pension funds, mass layoffs, future taxes to pay off bailouts. All that money that you're losing, it's going somewhere, and in both a literal and a figurative sense, Goldman Sachs is where it's going: The bank is a huge, highly sophisticated engine for converting the useful, deployed wealth of society into the least useful, most wasteful and insoluble substance on Earth - pure profit for rich individuals.

They achieve this using the same playbook over and over again. The formula is relatively simple: Goldman positions itself in the middle of a speculative bubble, selling investments they know are crap. Then they hoover up vast sums from the middle and lower floors of society with the aid of a crippled and corrupt state that allows it to rewrite the rules in exchange for the relative pennies the bank throws at political patronage. Finally, when it all goes bust, leaving millions of ordinary citizens broke and starving, they begin the entire process over again, riding in to rescue us all by lending us back our own money at interest, selling themselves as men above greed, just a bunch of really smart guys keeping the wheels greased. They've been pulling this same stunt over and over since the 1920s - and now they're preparing to do it again, creating what may be the biggest and most audacious bubble yet.


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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 10:30 PM
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13. When you've got Geitner on your side
you can "rebound" faster than the competition. Fuck that asshole Geitner. I GUARANTEE he's working at Goldman w/in 2 months of his Treasury Secretary stint.
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outsourceCEOs Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 10:39 PM
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14. sounds like it's time for another massive round of layoffs in america
you know, we can't afford to lose our best and brightest at the financial institutions... i am sure we will be handsomely rewarded for our present sacrifice once the banks get theirs :evilgrin:
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 11:02 PM
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15. Well of course.
Thats what can happen when you have enough money to buy the government and a President.


NOW we have Your Children’s Money too !!!
And there is not a fucking thing you can do about it!
Now THIS is “Bi-Partisanship” !
Better get used to it!!
Hahahahahahahahaha!

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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 10:31 AM
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18. Guess who was Obama's biggest campaign contributor in 08?
Hint: it starts with a G.
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