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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 07:35 PM
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Goldman Sachs profits hailed by lawmakers
Source: Reuters

By John Poirier

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democrats and Republicans alike lauded Goldman Sachs on Tuesday after the company, which received taxpayer assistance last year, said its quarterly profit rose and that it was setting aside billions for employees.

"Is there a law in the United States that you can't make profits?" Representative Paul Kanjorski, a senior Democrat on the House Financial Services Committee, asked reporters.

Kanjorski said he hoped Goldman's profits were a sign of economic recovery and a possible bellwether for other sectors. "I have great hope General Motors has great profits next year," he said.

Last month, Goldman repaid the $10 billion that it received from the U.S. Treasury Department in October. In so doing, Goldman freed itself from government-imposed restrictions on executive pay.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE56D76620090714
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3waygeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 07:37 PM
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1. Of course they were...
more profits means more contributions.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 07:40 PM
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3. Should we be rooting for financial institutions to report losses? nt
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 07:46 PM
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5. Understand where their "profits" come from
They are siphoning off the earnings of real people. They buy and sell, via computer, and take a cut. They gamble with your money, your 401k's money, your pension plan's money, and they take a cut. You win, they take a cut. You lose, someone else wins, they take a cut.

They do not "earn" it. They are playing at a rigged game. They cannot lose.


This is not a sign of "recovery." It is a sign of continued collapse.




Tansy Gold
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 07:49 PM
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6. Welcome to the world of finance. nt
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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 08:03 PM
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7. 'They siphon off the earnings of real people'
the very definition of a parasite.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 08:29 PM
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9. Ding Ding Ding, I think we got us a winnuh heah!
Exactly.

Or as Matt Taibbi would say, vampire squid.



TG
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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 08:50 PM
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11. Goldman Sachs makes Bernie Madoff
look like a petty thief.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 09:12 PM
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14. Because that's what Bernie is.
There is no more "investing" in the stock market. It's all a Ponzi scheme, a naked gamble.


And the brokers are ALL -- yes, ALL of them, even the "honest" ones -- crooks.



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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 11:31 PM
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18. & a scapegoat for a system - though a deserving one!
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 12:20 AM
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20. Bernie's crime was that he couldn't keep the scam going.
It wasn't that he ran a scam; it was that he ran out of "new" investors.

So he's less a scapegoat than a discard.


The big boys on Wall Street did the same thing Bernie did, but they got to be "too big to fail" and suckered in the whole of the U.S. Treasury to keep their scam going.

Eventually they will run out of suckers, because in the classic irony of the successful Ponzi scheme they'll have sucked all the suckers dry. When will this happen? :shrug: I dunno. But it will. Eventually.



TG
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 08:54 AM
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21. But he did for 40 years - that's pretty impressive...
His failure was that in this particular mega-crunch, his thing wasn't "too big too fail," he didn't have sufficient extortion power or pull and control inside the government (like GS, or for that matter AIG, BoA and Citigroup) to get a bailout plan, permission to valuate assets at fictional prices (suspension of mark to market), and the government's willingness to pick up those assets as public debt.

The crisis is hardly over, however. Most of the bad debt has yet to unwind.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 07:39 PM
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2. "All hail our masters!"
n/t
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 07:46 PM
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4. Bless our financial overlords!!!
WTF? Read Rolling Stone...

PURE EVIL!!!
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 08:07 PM
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8. Yup. Prosecuting someone for having their software that allows them
to manipulate the market, claiming the government needs to help with the prosecution because he could use that software to manipulate the market and cause chaos, but all that does is reveal HOW Goldman Sachs makes their profit. They have proprietary software that cheats for them.

And they are the biggest owners of the Federal Reserve, have the most insiders working in the Dept of the Treasury and in the Obama Administration right now.

How could they NOT be making a profit with that kind of insider influence?

Goldman Sachs needs to be taken apart and investigated for serious market manipulation and fraud, and then broken up into smaller less powerful companies.

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ShamelessHussy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 08:39 PM
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10. How much did the tax payers earn for their strategic investment?
anyone see a number on that?
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 08:58 PM
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12. "setting aside billions for employees" Gee, I wonder which employees
would they be talking about?
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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 09:07 PM
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13. wtf...billions?
Edited on Tue Jul-14-09 09:11 PM by rollingrock
just how many freaking 'employees' do they have?

Translation: 'employee' is Wall Street jargon for a douchebag/scam artist.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 11:16 PM
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15. They're setting aside roughly $700,000 per employee.
Will you get that kind of bonus this year?
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 11:25 PM
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16. Well did that money come about from unethical practices?
If yes, then we are back to business as usual. :eyes:

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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 11:28 PM
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17. What about the $12 billion or more they bagged through the AIG bailout?
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 12:01 AM
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19. Dear Representative Paul Kanjorski,
go fuck yourself.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 01:09 PM
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22. Guess whom Kanjorkski represents...
"Is there a law in the United States that you can't make profits?" Representative Paul Kanjorski, a senior Democrat on the House Financial Services Committee, asked reporters.


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