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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 12:20 PM
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Chinese-born engineer guilty of economic espionage
Source: AP writer Amy Taxin via Guardian

A Chinese-born engineer was convicted Thursday of stealing trade secrets critical to the U.S. space program in the nation's first economic espionage trial.

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/8611296
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 01:46 PM
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1. Only one word

Good.
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mule_train Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 04:16 PM
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2. 'a desparate shortage of economic spies'


i thought foreign workers were entitled to take whatever they wanted

they've packed up and shipped off the entire IT industry in the space of 10 years
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 04:26 PM
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3. "i thought foreign workers were entitled to take whatever they wanted"?
Is you substituted the words "women and minority" for "foreign", you could become a repub senator or Fox talking head. Careful when you're stereotyping large groups of people.
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mule_train Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 04:36 PM
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4. yout mean like this?


"Careful when you're stereotyping large groups of people."

you mean like this?

Indian CEO says American tech grads are 'unemployable'

http://business.rediff.com/report/2009/jun/23/indian-ceo-says-american-tech-grads-are-unemployable.htm
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ChromeFoundry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 08:29 PM
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5. Yeah, No shit!!!
M_T, Didn't you get the memo? ... racism and stereotypes are allowable when it goes against Americans!

And it's completely expected and encouraged when there is no other argument left to meet the needs of your agenda.



BTW... :toast:
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 06:28 AM
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8. Nope, racism and stereotypes are never acceptable even when the "other guy"
(whether the "other guy" is an Indian CEO, Hitler, Milosevic, or a Rwandan Hutu leader) does it first. Using the "lowest common denominator" of world behavior as a guide for how we should act is not how I see things.
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ChromeFoundry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 10:09 AM
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9. Unfortunately...
I've never seen you denounce these actions when directed at American citizens. Yet, you have no problem countering groups speaking out against the H-1B & L1 visa programs, offshoring and free-trade, and you are quick to cry protectionism and xenophobia and toss your race-card out on the table. The only conclusion that can be reached is that your agenda coincides with the agenda that does not include the views of the "lazy American worker".
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 10:35 AM
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10. In post 7, you'll notice that I called the Indian CEO an idiot and compared him
to Hitler, Milosevic and others. If that is not enough of a denouncement for you, so be it.

I accused no one of protectionism, xenophobia or racism, just that another poster was close to sounding like a repub senator or FOX talking head by the stereotyping he/she was engaged in. Do you not agree that repubs politicians and FOX folks engage in stereotyping much more than progressive do?

Accusing others of protectionism, xenophobia or racism is a substitute for discussing trade and immigration issues. Likewise accusing others of being a "globalist" (which used to be a good, progressive thing when I was much younger - one of the reasons I joined the Peace Corps way back when) or not caring about the American worker. I figure that name calling (though I'll admit that comparing a poster to a repub senator or FOX talking head is pretty mean :) ) and hot-button labels (xenophobe,globalist) don't do much to foster discussion around here.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 02:13 AM
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6. Of course they're "unemployable"...
most won't work for the shit wages that others will.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 05:45 AM
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7. Yeah, exactly like that. If an Indian CEO or a repub senator or a Fox talking head
stereotypes large groups of people, does that make stereotyping OK? The fact that there is an idiot Indian CEO (not to mention repub senators and Fox talking heads) out there stereotyping people based on their nationality doesn't make that any more acceptable than stereotyping based on gender, race, ethnicity or sexual orientation.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 01:28 PM
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11. This thread, so far, is another example of information warfare conducted at DU and the Internet imo.
:puke:
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