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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 10:40 AM
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GOP leader: Health care overhaul too drastic
Source: AP


WASHINGTON – The Senate's top Republican says the U.S. has the best health care in the world and the system doesn't need to be scrapped.

Sen. Mitch McConnell says the Democrats' approach ignores what's right with the U.S. system. He says cost and access are challenges, but not enough to justify a complete overhaul.

The Kentucky Republican says the system isn't the most efficient way to provide care for millions of Americans. He says President Barack Obama's plan would be the same as government takeover — and that would lead to worse care.

McConnell appeared Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press."


Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090719/ap_on_go_co/us_mcconnell_health_care_overhaul
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 10:43 AM
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1. BS!
We don't have a freaking SYSTEM here in the US! We've got an insurance industry that's making a ton of money ... that's what he means.
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PNutt Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 04:50 PM
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46. Perhaps That Azzhat........
Would like to exchange plans with me. No coverage on a pre-existing back condition, refusal to cover some basic services, premium increases every year, 20% co-pays as long as I use "their" doctors, 20% out of pocket on every prescription, and my wife forever tied to her job because of my heart condition.

I am grateful for what I do have, but I am being forced to apply for Medicaid to pay the unpaid balances after the insurance company pays their portion. These congressional azzhats have absolutely no idea of just how the healthcare insurance scams go about bankrupting average citizens with fine print, exclusions, and burocrats that only care about bottom-line profits, and could give a fook about a person's health.
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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 10:48 AM
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2. Double BS
Republicans are just shills for Big Insurance, Big Pharma
abd they don't represent the vast majority of Americans
They represent those who are paying them to push this back
so Harry & Louise can take an extra bite of profits at
America's expense
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 04:17 PM
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44. The mans a simpleton who parrots phrases.
What do we expect. !
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dmosh42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 10:58 AM
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3. Party of "NO", led by Prune Face! n/t
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 11:00 AM
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4. Triple bullshit
Broadly speaking I'd say anyone against single payer has been bought off. So - just keep a list, update as necessary and post from time to time.
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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 11:00 AM
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5. Why do we allow corporately corrupting lobbying a tax deduction
Edited on Sun Jul-19-09 11:14 AM by ShockediSay
What tax deductible lobbying expenses really do lobbying expenses like $1,000/hour
lobby lawyer fees and their campaign contributions ... tax deductible lobbying expenses add to the deficit to enable lobby lawyers to increase our deficit.

Would disallowance of the bulk of corporate lobbying expenses be a violation of Freedom of Speech?

Every bit as much as Solicitation of Prostitution, Subornation of Terrorism and Converstation in Furtherance of Bribary/Criminal Conspiracy!

Why continue the practice of extortion and bribery as tax deductible?
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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 11:07 AM
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7. Great way to pay for health care} disallow bulk of ALL lobbying expenses
Now's the time

This is the issue

Why allow corporate tax deductions for lobbying, which increases our national debt, to enable these guys to further increase our national debt.

Why does America pay more for tax deductible corporate lobbying expenses, than most countries of the world pay for their military?
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stubtoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 11:00 AM
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6. Blah, blah, blah.
Same talking points, different day.
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 11:13 AM
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8. Wow.That's all I have to
say just wow.Out of touch and out of his mind.
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Cass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 11:23 AM
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9. This fathead says its too drastic while enjoying taxpayer subsidized health insurance.
What freaking nerve. Just who the hell do these asswipes think they are?

The best healthcare system in the world ain't worth shit if you can't afford to access it.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 05:14 PM
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47. Took the words right out of my mouth and ready to type hands....Paid-off assholes!
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Cass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 09:04 PM
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54. Great minds and all that! They are so blatant in their arrogance and disregard for the
people they are hired to represent. It is infuriating.
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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 11:29 AM
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10. i THINK TROLLS ARE UNRECOMMENDING OUR POSTS N/T
Edited on Sun Jul-19-09 11:29 AM by ShockediSay
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 12:09 PM
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19. Why this unrecommending feature. A new game to play, in lieu of policy discussion?
Whose brain child?
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 11:32 AM
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11. Mitchy the Kid claims the US has the best health care in the world.
Ha. Shows how much he knows. :eyes:

:nuke: I'm sick of Republicans. :nuke:
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 11:43 AM
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12. hey, mitch, how about going without, like so many millions of our citizens do.
and how do you explain that we rank about 37th in health care, by world standards?

until we get universal health care, NOTHING is too drastic. quit funding the damned wars, and there will be money for health care, it's that simple.
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 11:46 AM
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13. Sent to Ed. n/t
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wovenpaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 11:54 AM
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14. Yeah, HE's got a good healthcare plan
as a federal employee (BTW, taxpayer funded). Why can't we all have the same??

Rep. Courtney (CT) explains this very well here...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEBEj-L-n2A
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 12:06 PM
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15. Appealing to fear and those skittish about change, or the industry that's 1/6 of our economy in
Edited on Sun Jul-19-09 12:07 PM by MarjorieG
tough times. Single-payer faces bigger lift. Hopefully the s.p. amendment will pass for those states able and willing.

I though McDonnell absolutely disgusting, as usual. Arguing for time, when all he wants is to kill it.

Obama said to the Jewish leaders in conference that other than Mideast peace, health care reform is the hardest ot do.



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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 12:08 PM
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16. The GOP leader is painfully out of touch
like most GOPs.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 12:08 PM
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17. The "No" Party is at it again!
"Big Government!"
"Socialism!"
"Black UN Helicopters!"

:eyes:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 12:09 PM
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18. I'd say we should chip in and buy him a bigger shovel...
but I think he can pony up one with his own money if he wants to continue digging up lies.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 12:12 PM
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20. The GOP Health Care Plan:
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tooeyeten Donating Member (441 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 12:18 PM
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21. when taxpayers pay your health care coverage
guess you can't see the forest for the trees.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 12:25 PM
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22. He doesn't get it. We do have the best health care system in the world.
What we do not have is the best access system in the world. Tiny, poor little Cuba is ahead of us on that one. It is access to health care we are arguing about here not how good our doctors, nurses, hospitals etc. are.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 12:49 PM
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25. Well stated and too true.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 12:44 PM
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23. too drastic for those making a killing on the sick and dying Americans
Edited on Sun Jul-19-09 12:44 PM by fascisthunter
those benefiting off of the sick and dying are fucking sociopathic parasites
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felinetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 12:45 PM
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24. His office smeared the two children publicly promoting S-Chip
How much money does he get from insurance companies. I can't stand their greed. I also believe
they don't want this to work because it will make Pres. Obama succeed.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 01:00 PM
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26. when is he up for re-election, and WHY do kentuckians keep sending him back?
more democrats have to make more of a concerted effort to get to the polls on selection day.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 01:10 PM
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28. My homestate is FILLED with god-fearing, gun-totin' idiots
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 01:06 PM
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27. Wonder how much Humana has put in his campaign coffer?
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 01:20 PM
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29. Dear "GOP" leader: You lost the fucking election. nt
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 01:24 PM
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30. "Why do y'all hate Amurika?"
Dissing our medical care system is unpatriotic.

We're No. 1! We're No. 1! We're No. 1! We're No. 1! We're No. 1!

Now, don't y'all feel better now. Just keep saying it. It won't make it true, but you'll feel better about it.

We're No. 1! We're No. 1! We're No. 1! We're No. 1! We're No. 1!

Now, go out and make them welfare babies. With our infant mortality rate, we can't sustain population growth unless all you ladies pump out 5 or 6 of them little rascals.

:sarcasm:

(did I really need that smilie?) ;)
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Blue Idaho Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 01:28 PM
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31. Never Underestimate the Congress of the United States!
Given the chance to do nothing - that is exactly what they will do. You are witnessing the bullshit "cover" they will employ so they can sit on their hands and let big pharma and insurance cartels stuff money in their pockets. The really sad part of this is the significant number of DEMOCRATS that will say exactly what Mitch the Bitch is saying. All the while, the sick and the poor will keep dying for lack of decent health care. This is no joke.

The question is - what are you willing to do to push back, to let you elected representatives know that we will not tolerate more of the same? Health care reform, like the election of Barack Obama in in OUR hands. If you think just prattling along on this forum will make a difference, you are wrong. We need to get in the faces of our elected officials and let them know the status quo will not be accepted. We need to knock on doors and hold conversations with our friends. If we let these assholes off the hook now - NOTHING will ever change.
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malletgirl02 Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 12:04 AM
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59. John Adams in 1776
Unfortunately, I can't recall the quote exactly, but here is what I remember, "One useless man is called a disgrace, two a law firm and three or more is called a Congress"
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 01:33 PM
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32. K&R
:kick:
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 01:33 PM
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33. this is the GOP and right wing's grasp to keep the old
class structure intact.
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KyleA Donating Member (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 01:57 PM
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34. Kentucky one of the most unhealthy states in the country
Pasty face McConnell never did an honest days work in his life, gets govt health care and says FU to his own State consituincyhttp://www.kyhealthcare.org/news/kentucky/woolhandler_addresses_kma_9-16-9
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scytherius Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 02:01 PM
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35. If we do not destroy the Right Wing in this country it is the end of America and the world
And that is not an exaggeration. The Right Wing is bent on domination and destruction. The stakes are high and it is the end game. They MUST be destroyed.
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 03:49 PM
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43. I prefer sending them into space towards the very bright thing myself. nt
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 02:08 PM
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36. Did anyone on MTP question his ridiculous statement?
Because if not, then give them = credit with this shill for undermining reform.
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 02:10 PM
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37. Dear Mr. McChinless, read this


And that also goes for all the insurance companies stuffing money into your pockets at an obscene rate.
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boomerbust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 02:13 PM
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38. OK Turtle Beak Mitch
I believe you.:smoke:
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 02:29 PM
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39. What care is worse than no care? n/t
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TatonkaJames Donating Member (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 03:30 PM
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40. The disention is plain and simple, neither party wants to lose their personal wealth, ask McConnell
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky called for expanding the tax deduction on health care costs for employers to """"""include individual taxpayers"""""" -- what the Republicans call equalized tax treatment -- and limiting medical malpractice lawsuits that he said drive up the cost of medical care.

Sure, same old tax, tax, tax. I don't even believe they have to tax the wealthy. My belief is these con artists don't know a freaking thing about how to do anything but tax, tax, tax.
With scrutiny on the lives of every politician, (in the old days we knew who was boinking who, it was just kept out of the news, but today's media is hungry for "The National Enquirer" $$ so they delve into them like paparazzi do to celebs) so the people who should be in office and fixing these problems are on the sidelines laughing their arses off at these incompetent dooshbags. :hippie:
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 03:34 PM
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41. Like hell it is! It's also the same old, tired assholes saying the same old, tired BS. nt
Edited on Sun Jul-19-09 03:34 PM by nc4bo
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 03:47 PM
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42. Who cares what you pubs think? Re-pubs irrelevant. Talk to the hand. nt
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #42
50. No one cares what Republicans say
unless it's under oath.
No one believes what Republicans say, even if it is under oath.
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 07:17 PM
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52. True ... I once heard a pub being honest and I nearly fainted. nt.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 06:50 AM
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61. This is my standard reply
to right wing emails. They either stop sending or get very defensive to the point of foaming at the keyboard.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 04:43 PM
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45. THey say that about everything
First off, they compare what America's richest folks get for their money, healthcare-wise, with what the average is to other countries with nationalized healthcare. 85% of Americans have, usually, a one-choice choice from employers; an HMO.

Also, I am sick of conservoes' "why doesn't everyone talk about what's RIGHT with America?" crappola.

Ignoring big problems don't make them go away, Mitchie.
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 05:24 PM
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48. Well.... . HE does have the best health care money can buy.
Senators can't complain about all the "perks" that come with the job.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 05:41 PM
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49. Candidate for this year's "You Call This NEWS?" award
Edited on Sun Jul-19-09 05:44 PM by rocktivity
We have the 37th best healthcare system in the world--or didn't Dave Gregory or Kathleen Sebelius mention that?

:eyes:
rocktivity
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 07:12 PM
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51. Repukes are like a broken record....
and stuck on stupid.

No....*click*.... No.....*click*....No....*click*....No....*click*
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scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 08:07 PM
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53. Dems dont have strong leadership to counter GOP BS
Like it or not the pukes STILL control policy. If we had articulate and forceful liberal leadership who hit the populist nerve with truth and common sense, we'd dominate the Sunday talk shows. But we don't. We have Pelosi and Reid and mushy DLC neo-cons er neo-dems who can't get our corporate run government under control.

This is smelling like one ugly outcome. DLC and Obamanauts are giving the same arrogant lines of defense for privately designed health policy that Bushies used when we smelled the stench from Enron and Iraq. And like the arrogance that drove Bush, the arrogance against single payer driving Obama is going to backfire and require massive bailout. But only after corporate CEOs get theirs first and Obama is long gone from the accountability equation.

Single payer is the only way to get this under control and break up the monopoly.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 09:08 PM
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55. Yawn....The GOP the party of inaction.
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tj2001 Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 09:11 PM
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56. Taking a shower is too drastic
for filthy greedy pigs
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 09:22 PM
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57. His head is stuck up his ass - no wonder he doesn't see the problem
Fucking Republicans are rich, selfish ass holes. I'll take my mother fucking healthcare out of their ass if this doesn't pass.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 11:58 PM
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58. too drastic that all Americans are covered incuding children?
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 02:55 AM
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60. I'm just guessing that he's never had to go to a foreign ER - or probably a US one for that matter
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 08:49 AM
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62. Right wing Fascist A-Hole.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 09:24 AM
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63. The AP has another article out now parroting Steele talking points
The chairman of the Republican Party on Monday accused President Barack Obama of conducting "risky experimentation" with his health care proposals, saying they will hurt the economy and force millions to drop their current coverage.

Michael Steele, in remarks at the National Press Club, also said the president, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and key congressional committee chairmen are part of a "cabal" that wants to implement government-run health care.

"Obama-Pelosi want to start building a colossal, closed health care system where Washington decides. Republicans want and support an open health care system where patients and doctors make the decisions," Steele said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_health_care_overhaul


The clearly press remains wired for all GOP, all the time.
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