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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 08:14 PM Original message |
Obama says police acted 'stupidly' in arrest |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
1. And he's right. |
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Farzan (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
169. Bad Idea |
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Trocadero (892 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:33 PM Response to Reply #169 |
174. oh no! Obama is losing the racist vote! |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 06:36 AM Response to Reply #174 |
259. Unfortunately, racists are not few and far between. |
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Obama2012 (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:16 AM Response to Reply #259 |
284. Who cares if he pisses them off? |
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bc3000 (766 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #284 |
369. I support the right to be disorderly in one's own home. |
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Obama2012 (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 03:24 PM Response to Reply #369 |
379. So do I |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:39 PM Response to Reply #169 |
177. He was responding to a direct question. |
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Farzan (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:05 AM Response to Reply #177 |
213. Healthcare message |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 04:06 AM Response to Reply #213 |
247. The cop would've done all of that anyway. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 06:49 AM Response to Reply #247 |
263. Thing is, Obama did not restrict his comment to that one cop. And scared has nothing to do with |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #263 |
378. I agree...but I'm not sure the fallout will be too big a deal. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 06:44 AM Response to Reply #177 |
261. So? A direct question does not mean you have to express an opinion without having the facts. "I |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:53 AM Response to Reply #261 |
275. The fact is the charges were dropped in short order. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:40 PM Response to Reply #169 |
178. The truth is never a bad idea. |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:47 PM Response to Reply #178 |
184. Wish Obama would replace the USAs so Don Siegleman would quit getting railroaded by Rove's buddies |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:49 PM Response to Reply #184 |
186. If Siegleman were black (or even republican like Stevens) Would this miscarriage of Justice be stopp |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:52 PM Response to Reply #186 |
188. Even the assistant prosecutor says the prosecutor lied and broke the law-they fired her. |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:54 PM Response to Reply #188 |
193. The USA and judge not just acted stupidly but illegally showing the corruption at the DoJ |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:55 PM Response to Reply #193 |
194. More appropriate question than asking about Gates. What about Siegleman and stolen election. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:34 AM Response to Reply #194 |
269. Goldfish and media have a memory of three seconds. Actually, that turns out to have been |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:37 AM Response to Reply #186 |
272. You're accusing President Obama and AG Holder of being |
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Swagman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 04:57 AM Response to Reply #178 |
255. I agree..and watching from abroad it's good to see a president responding to yet |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 06:56 AM Response to Reply #178 |
264. When you preface your statement with "Gates is my friend; I don't have the facts," you sound |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #169 |
380. The Racist Mother Fuckers and the Freepers are out in force |
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complain jane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:04 PM Response to Reply #380 |
418. Heh |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:26 PM Response to Reply #418 |
425. My Bad-- they are the same GROUP |
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Farzan (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:06 AM Response to Reply #1 |
282. And now for something completely different... |
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Alameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #282 |
346. well....just maybe that actually is the case in too many cases... |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 04:13 PM Response to Reply #282 |
385. Farzan, I agree on both your points. The Prez made at least 2 intemperate statements in the sea of |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:11 AM Response to Reply #282 |
421. I was more stunned by this comment too |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
2. It takes a special sort of person to disagree with that. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:47 PM Response to Reply #2 |
183. Yeah, and we have some |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:18 AM Response to Reply #183 |
265. Please see post 266. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:23 AM Response to Reply #2 |
266. Please see posts 261 and 264. IMO, Gates is 100% right, but I also think |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #2 |
344. It may actually take |
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winter999 (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #344 |
371. You know, if someone takes all these findings and reverses the |
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Raschel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
3. I'm wondering if this will be the most discussed part of the President's conference. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:42 PM Response to Reply #3 |
59. YUP ! All over CNN online. Bad move Barack. FIX IT FAST TOMORROW !! |
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deep1 (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:03 PM Response to Reply #59 |
87. I'm very tired of this defensive of racist police |
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Suji to Seoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:24 PM Response to Reply #87 |
121. welcome to DU and I could not agree more with you |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:23 PM Response to Reply #87 |
165. This country can't talk about race to save its life and it has to. |
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deep1 (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:33 PM Response to Reply #165 |
173. Thank you |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:42 PM Response to Reply #173 |
181. You can tell it's out of control when the populace is so quick to defend |
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deep1 (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:16 AM Response to Reply #181 |
197. Very proud |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:03 AM Response to Reply #181 |
281. Please see posts 261 and 264. You and I have been on |
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firedupdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:40 PM Response to Reply #87 |
179. Thank You Deep1 |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:54 PM Response to Reply #87 |
191. *raises eyebrow* |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 02:33 AM Response to Reply #191 |
240. Deleted message |
mtnester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 04:39 AM Response to Reply #240 |
253. Nice |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:37 AM Response to Reply #253 |
271. *shakes head* |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:20 AM Response to Reply #271 |
287. Post 253 by no means illustrates your point. |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:22 AM Response to Reply #287 |
289. I was referencing #240 n/t |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:34 AM Response to Reply #289 |
295. Your post 271 did not reference any post number and it replied to Post 253. |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:35 AM Response to Reply #295 |
296. I was being conversational with 253 |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:39 AM Response to Reply #296 |
297. Understood. I agree witth you about Post 240. |
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RandomKoolzip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:58 AM Response to Reply #240 |
276. Wow. What an asshole thing to say. Comparing DU's GLBT community to the KLAN?! |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:11 AM Response to Reply #240 |
283. The RW trivializes lynching by applying it to things like SCOTUS confirmation hearings. |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:31 AM Response to Reply #240 |
292. Wow...This is one of the sickest things I have read here. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:42 AM Response to Reply #240 |
298. Deleted message |
No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:16 AM Response to Reply #191 |
285. +1 And that is putting it as nicely as possible. |
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Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #191 |
348. Amen to that |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:10 AM Response to Reply #87 |
196. I couldn't agree and disagree more, at the same time |
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deep1 (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:34 AM Response to Reply #196 |
205. Wonderful post, Loosewilly, |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:59 AM Response to Reply #205 |
303. Bigotry is ugly, no matter whether the object of the bigoty is an African American male, a |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #196 |
207. Amen. |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:24 AM Response to Reply #87 |
200. May I inform you of something that you are unaware of, so you understand that we deal |
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lexanman (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:29 AM Response to Reply #200 |
221. no offense |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 03:52 AM Response to Reply #221 |
243. Bigots doesn't choose one group over another. They attack them all. |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:21 AM Response to Reply #221 |
288. The perils of invocation |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:45 AM Response to Reply #221 |
299. You seem to be replying to Post 200. Did you notice that Post 200 was replying to Post 87 and |
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lexanman (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 02:55 PM Response to Reply #299 |
375. yes I did |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 05:53 PM Response to Reply #221 |
395. And thank you for being the poster boy of the moment for anti GBLT bigotry here... |
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lexanman (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:13 PM Response to Reply #395 |
403. Im not anti GLBT Im pro GLBT |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:29 AM Response to Reply #87 |
222. Welcome |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 04:10 AM Response to Reply #87 |
248. Great post. Glad you've decided to add your voice to our forums |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 04:28 AM Response to Reply #87 |
252. Well said. Welcome to DU! |
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Swagman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 05:01 AM Response to Reply #87 |
256. spot on!!..and as a white man I have no idea of what you go through but I |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:59 AM Response to Reply #87 |
278. This is the fourth thread here that I know of about Gates. I supported |
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Obama2012 (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:18 AM Response to Reply #87 |
286. I'm new here, too and I've already seen a bunch of homophobic comments |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:52 AM Response to Reply #286 |
301. There are plenty of both. Some are stealthy, some are very thinly disguised, if at all. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:00 AM Response to Reply #87 |
304. welcome to DU |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 05:48 PM Response to Reply #87 |
394. What?!!! I see JUST THE OPPOSITE!!! |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:35 PM Response to Reply #87 |
411. Amen. I know it when I see it, and I see lots of it here. |
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Trocadero (892 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:31 PM Response to Reply #59 |
170. those cops were bullies, thugs and racist pigs. He should have called them ASSHOLES |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:00 AM Response to Reply #170 |
279. It was one cop. |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
4. Yes, they did! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
5. That's my president. |
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BlueJessamine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
6. K&R |
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Martin Eden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
7. I thought it was a stupid question to ask at this press conference |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. It's worth the time. No one ever talks about this in government. |
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Martin Eden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 08:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. I hope not |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 08:50 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. No, this bite is worth the time. The health care debate will go on. |
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bluesmail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:08 PM Response to Reply #19 |
159. That statement is prescient. I couldn't agree with it more. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
103. If he doesn't know all the facts, he could have stated that and left it |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:19 AM Response to Reply #103 |
198. Uhh, what's to know? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:12 AM Response to Reply #198 |
307. He is the one who said that he did not know the facts. Please see posts 261 and 264. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:07 AM Response to Reply #7 |
305. IMO, what he said about racial profiling needed to be said by a President. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
9. Sorry folks, but he is going to be "clarifying" this one. He should have said: |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 08:43 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Obama obviously softened his language for public consumption. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 08:44 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Re-read the post. I'm not "defending" anyone on either side. Was the black cop "racist" too? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. The black cop was not in charge at the scene. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 08:55 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. Were you there? Did you see it all? How can you judge so thoroughly? I'm just trying to be |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:00 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. No, BOTH SIDES were not wrong. The racist white cop in charge |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:06 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. To blankly charge racism here is speculation. Everyone, even cops, get a benefit of doubt. You |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:08 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Well, no. I'm not rushing to anything. These racist bastards have a history |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:14 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. I've summarized key facts and have assessed that the cop no doubt acted rashly and with |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:17 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Nope. You have no evidence that Dr. Gates overreated at all. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:22 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. There is plenty of evidence Gates started accusing the cop of racial profiling, |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. No, there isn't "plenty of evidence". There is a police report |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:29 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Pretty asshole-ish to blindy accuse people of being "assholes." You |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:37 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. The charges were dropped, the arrest was bad. The department |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:43 AM Response to Reply #28 |
208. I think that this incident having happened in the proffessor's home, |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:04 PM Response to Reply #24 |
154. I think you are right that it turned into a pissing contest. But the man was in his |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:26 AM Response to Reply #24 |
309. Losing your cool because a cop is hassling you for nothing more than being in |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:27 AM Response to Reply #12 |
290. Your question suggests that an African American cop cannot possibly |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:27 AM Response to Reply #12 |
291. Your question suggests that an African American cop cannot possibly |
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Towlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 08:45 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. I hope he doesn't back down. That would be depressing. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:32 AM Response to Reply #14 |
293. Please see posts 261 and 264. His statements about racial profiling were great, though. |
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theblasmo (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:03 PM Response to Reply #14 |
351. He's a lawyer... |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 08:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
25. Wasn't the arresting officer black, too? (nt) |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:19 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. Nope. |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:20 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Oh, thanks. Seems that I misread the story (nt) |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:52 AM Response to Reply #25 |
314. No, but it would not have made a bit of difference in my opinion of this matter if he had been. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:52 AM Response to Reply #25 |
315. Dupe, sorry. |
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Chemisse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:03 PM Response to Reply #9 |
85. I agree with you - I don't think this story is clear enough |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:07 AM Response to Reply #85 |
320. I disagree. But, the issue was not whether there was blame on both sides. The only |
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Iowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:19 PM Response to Reply #9 |
117. Nonsense... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:16 AM Response to Reply #117 |
322. It' not only what we know about cops. I have seen greatt behavior by some cops |
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global1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:04 AM Response to Reply #9 |
195. I Think Obama Will Be Asked About His "Stupid" Comment And Will Say..... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:24 AM Response to Reply #195 |
324. I quibbled with some of his wording upthread, but stupid is on the mark. And then some. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:38 AM Response to Reply #9 |
223. Well, you know, those little black children must have gotten |
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medeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
11. inappropriately would have been a better word |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Yup. Obama is probably biting his tongue right now. Bad word choice. |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 08:52 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. You know, I doubt it. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 03:41 AM Response to Reply #21 |
242. He's a cautious type who plans things |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:39 AM Response to Reply #15 |
225. He should have said FUCKING RACIST .... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 08:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. I'd say arresting a man you already ID'd in his own home |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 08:51 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Yeah, but there was also more to incident. As I say, little doubt of a poor arrest decision, but it |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 08:55 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. More to the incident? Not really. They made a bad arrest. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 08:58 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Well, it is speculation too. You were not there. I was not there. Obama said he didn't |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:03 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Wrong. The facts are in, the police were wrong. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:07 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. One fact is Gates' signed statement of joint regret. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:14 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. You're not trying to use that gracious act against him, are you? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:28 AM Response to Reply #32 |
325. Difference being, Gates got arrested by someone who is trained and required to de-escalate. |
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annm4peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:10 PM Response to Reply #23 |
161. many great responses, I really like this one |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:42 AM Response to Reply #161 |
226. GOD, YES. Matthews was truly awful! |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:31 PM Response to Reply #20 |
49. It depends on who you believe |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:41 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. What is your basis for saying Gates "probably did act up"? |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:59 AM Response to Reply #55 |
211. Oh, maybe the police report? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 04:11 AM Response to Reply #211 |
249. You're joking, right? It's the Cambridge Police that have a history, |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:37 AM Response to Reply #249 |
311. Pllease show n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:15 AM Response to Reply #311 |
321. Another professor mentions it in one of the very first articles: |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #321 |
398. So in summary your "evidence" is from 1987, an editorial, and doesn't apply... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:18 PM Response to Reply #398 |
404. These morans arrested Henry Louis Gates. |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 06:52 PM Response to Reply #321 |
402. Thanks, that does happen, sadly |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #49 |
95. Calling a cop a racist is not an arrestable offense |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:01 AM Response to Reply #95 |
212. If the cop is completely truthful it is |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #212 |
329. Baloney. Gates was inside his own home with a perfect right to be there. |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:47 PM Response to Reply #329 |
417. He followed the cop out |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:46 AM Response to Reply #49 |
227. He WAS being IDed ONLY because he was black. |
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wurzel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #227 |
373. Don't jump to the conclusion this was racism. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:40 AM Response to Reply #49 |
326. You have over 900 posts here and I have still not seen a one that is typical of a Democrat. News |
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Boudica the Lyoness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:31 PM Response to Reply #20 |
50. WTF! |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #20 |
97. You are breaking into a sweat trying DESPERATELY to defend the actions |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
18. Perhaps the President should have read the police report before he incorrectly stated |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 08:52 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. You are relying on the written report of a police officer whose own department |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:46 PM Response to Reply #22 |
65. Was the President there? |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:38 AM Response to Reply #65 |
206. The President knows Dr. Gates. Dr. Gates was arrested for disturbing the peace in his own home. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 04:16 AM Response to Reply #65 |
251. LOL |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:06 AM Response to Reply #65 |
337. The fact that the the Professor was in his own home and the cop did not leave |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #65 |
354. I post here daily. I have yet to see a post of yours that sounds as though it was made by a |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 06:03 PM Response to Reply #354 |
396. When you grow up and stop smearing people for disagreeing with you |
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AlexinVA (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 08:59 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. You're assuming the police report is an accurate account of what happened |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:19 PM Response to Reply #27 |
40. I read the report yesterday. The officer said that when he first asked Gates for his i.d. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:28 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. This isn't the first black faculty member treated in this way by this police force. |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:04 PM Response to Reply #47 |
89. Did the other faculty member refuse to show his i.d. to the officer? Did the other faculty |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:05 PM Response to Reply #89 |
155. The only report you have about a delay in showing ID |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:32 AM Response to Reply #89 |
342. No, the President said the cop behaved stupidly because the cop did not leave after seeing ID. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:17 AM Response to Reply #40 |
338. Your recollection of that report is faulty. And so is your assumption that it was accurate. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:00 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. Obama, usually so measured, flubbed here. He caused this distraction. He needs to correct it. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:15 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. What a crock. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:18 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Look, I think Obama is great. But just watch him amend this one, and he should. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:21 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Obama called them stupid in order to avoid calling them worse. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:39 PM Response to Reply #43 |
54. But he is President of ALL Americans, and this was poor language. He knows better. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:43 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. Excuse me? What do you mean, he's president of "all Americans"? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:25 AM Response to Reply #54 |
339. "Stupidly" was not poor language. It was on the mark. You come to investigate a break in. you |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #54 |
347. As President of ALL Americans, he should speak out against racial profiling. |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:41 PM Response to Reply #38 |
57. Agree. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #57 |
355. Then, please see Reply 347. |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:04 PM Response to Reply #29 |
90. No he doesn't. If this is the shiny object the MSM wants to follow |
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Trocadero (892 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:32 PM Response to Reply #29 |
171. aw, poor little racist thugs got their feelings huwt |
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Compline (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:42 PM Response to Reply #18 |
58. Agreed |
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lexanman (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:18 PM Response to Reply #18 |
114. berating a cop for being racist |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:05 PM Response to Reply #114 |
156. Not so. Police often drop charges in this type of incident if the offending individual has |
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lexanman (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:26 PM Response to Reply #156 |
167. being a hothead is not an arrestable offense, nor is calling the police a racist. |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 04:01 AM Response to Reply #167 |
244. in reading the new comments from when I last posted I see you've left several |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 04:03 AM Response to Reply #167 |
245. 'I think it pissed you off that a black man dared to speak up for his rights.' |
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lexanman (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #245 |
372. wow. you seem really upset about something that was not even addressed to you |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:02 AM Response to Reply #167 |
334. Actually, as I said previously, police drop charges for lots of reasons, which you seem |
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lexanman (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #334 |
376. In this instance the police dropped the charges |
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lexanman (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:37 PM Response to Reply #156 |
175. Oh and with language like "offending individual" and "arrested individual" |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:05 AM Response to Reply #175 |
336. You're wrong. Better brush up on your "police speak". |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #156 |
343. LOL. Professor Gates is anything but a hothead. It's not as though Gates |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:39 PM Response to Reply #156 |
356. You think Gates is a racist? That is a riot. If you read Gates wiki, he |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #114 |
360. He did not berate him. He said "Why? Because I am a black man in America?" Perfectly |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:51 AM Response to Reply #18 |
229. I'm not black... |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:58 AM Response to Reply #18 |
316. racist cops=bullshit report. Harvard Prof has a lot more credibility imo. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:55 AM Response to Reply #18 |
332. Your facts are wrong. Gates showed two forms of photo ID. One was his driver's |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
42. "Stupid" hardly begins to cover it. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:27 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. It was stupid for the President of the United States to say "stupid" much as I like Obama. |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:35 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. Oh well. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:38 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. No, he should ask the usually very active left side of his own brain next time. |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:41 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. How did you envision this going? |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:44 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. We do these exchanges to have a fair exchange of opinion and fair review of perspectives. Agreeing |
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Boudica the Lyoness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:43 PM Response to Reply #46 |
61. How different we are. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:47 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. Exactly. It was kind. n/t |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:53 PM Response to Reply #61 |
76. He is the President. HE has to be fair-minded and not invite distraction. Also, |
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Boudica the Lyoness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:52 AM Response to Reply #76 |
230. Sorry but the police here in the US are shit |
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Trocadero (892 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:53 PM Response to Reply #46 |
190. No, stupid is invading Iraq |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:53 AM Response to Reply #46 |
231. It is stupid of you to ceaselessly defend racist cops (n/t) |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
60. His mistake was first acknowledging that he was not there and does not know the facts, but then |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:45 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Because when the police arrest a prominent man who has ID in his own home |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:47 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Ah, well thanks for clearing that up. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:48 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. You might need to take a logic class, too. n/t |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:50 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Done and done (several years ago actually). |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:52 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Did the POLice drop the charges? Said arrest was stoopid....... |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:54 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. That's it? Charges are dropped for multiple reasons, only one of which is innocence. nt. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #77 |
363. Eferrari posted to you about a prominent man in his own home. You responded to her |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:00 PM Response to Reply #71 |
82. A prominent man is not free of sin. He is known. |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:02 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. I have no idea. And I have no idea what happened. And neither does Obama. nt. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:04 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. Apparently unlike you, Obama can process information and come to |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #88 |
96. One cannot reach a reasonable conclusion while also acknowledging |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:15 PM Response to Reply #96 |
110. Actually, you have that backwards. Most careful people |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:17 PM Response to Reply #110 |
113. Reasonable people draw conclusions from unknowns? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:22 PM Response to Reply #113 |
119. Obama didn't say he didn't know all the relevant facts. |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:25 PM Response to Reply #119 |
123. True, but it's implied. Had he known all relevant facts, it would have been unnecessary to say |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:26 PM Response to Reply #123 |
124. Wrong again. Obama framed what he knew, ran down the facts |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:33 PM Response to Reply #124 |
132. Except he said he didn't know the facts. Come on...nt. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:36 PM Response to Reply #132 |
135. No, he didn't say that. I have it TiVo'd. He said, like any careful person would say |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:38 PM Response to Reply #135 |
137. So you think Obama knows the facts well enough to call the cops' actions stupid? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:42 PM Response to Reply #137 |
142. Apparently the DA also thinks he does too, because he threw out |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:44 PM Response to Reply #142 |
145. Ever worked with a DA? nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:58 PM Response to Reply #145 |
149. Yes, I have, here in this county and for years as an interpreter. n/t |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:59 PM Response to Reply #149 |
151. So you know that "the law" is not the only consideration. nt. |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:41 PM Response to Reply #149 |
180. Due in part to EFerrari, I have changed my mind. nt. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #96 |
364. Amen. nt |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #83 |
368. All you have to do is read the police report, from the hand of Oficer |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:03 AM Response to Reply #82 |
280. Police demand contriteness (if that's a word). If one is belligerent or even argumentative |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:29 AM Response to Reply #280 |
340. Yep. That sounds about right to me. nt |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:49 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. Apparently, if you have the right connections, |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:51 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. I'm not willing to swing that far either. I have no idea whether the cop was "just doing his job". |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:56 PM Response to Reply #70 |
79. It has nothing to do with connections, but with a public track record. |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:57 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Exactly. We don't know what was said. Therefore, the appropriate course of action, especially |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:03 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Nope. The police arrested a well known and revered scholar in his own home. |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:07 PM Response to Reply #84 |
93. Again, I fail to see how knowing just two facts: |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #93 |
98. If you can't look at Skip Gates' ID and figure out he's in his own house, |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:11 PM Response to Reply #98 |
104. Well with that I certainly agree. nt. |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:48 AM Response to Reply #79 |
345. Actually |
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AverageJoe5 (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:54 PM Response to Reply #345 |
408. Obama flip-flops |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #70 |
370. If you read the police report and nothing but the police report--but you read it fairly-- |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:16 PM Response to Reply #66 |
361. Not at all. But once a cop establishes that no crime has been committed, it is stupid of that |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:05 PM Response to Reply #64 |
91. His neighbor reported a break in. |
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Chemisse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:15 PM Response to Reply #91 |
108. At first I thought the break in report was bogus |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:21 PM Response to Reply #108 |
118. There was no report that two black men were kicking a door in. n/t |
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Chemisse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 06:31 AM Response to Reply #118 |
258. Ahh, yeah 'pushed it in' is says |
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Homer Wells (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:36 AM Response to Reply #258 |
270. I'm sort of wondering about this woman |
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Demoiselle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #270 |
374. The first time I heard this story yesterday, the person who called in |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:44 AM Response to Reply #258 |
327. They pushed it in with their shoulder. Nobody kicked a door in. n/t |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:17 PM Response to Reply #91 |
112. He presented his ID, AFTER which he was arrested in his own house. |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:48 PM Response to Reply #60 |
68. He knew some of the facts. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:53 PM Response to Reply #68 |
74. What was amazing was the look on Obama's face when the press was laughing |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:56 PM Response to Reply #74 |
80. Did he say he'd be shot? I missed it because I was laughing at the mental image of |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:10 PM Response to Reply #80 |
100. Yes, he did. |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:13 PM Response to Reply #100 |
106. God bless his humor. And one thing is clear to me, had Gates been white, this would not have |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 02:01 AM Response to Reply #106 |
233. I agree |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:10 AM Response to Reply #74 |
306. I don't think it was funny either, the media what stupid ass people they are. |
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TuxedoKat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:29 AM Response to Reply #74 |
341. I missed the press conference |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:53 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. Perhaps. But as the President of the United States, he should have refrained from |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 09:56 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. CORRECT ! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:05 PM Response to Reply #75 |
92. Obama knew the facts, he described them just fine. n/t |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:10 PM Response to Reply #92 |
101. "I don't know all the facts." - Obama. nt. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:19 PM Response to Reply #101 |
116. Not knowing ALL the facts is not the same as not following the reporting |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:22 PM Response to Reply #116 |
120. You apparently fail to recognize that all of your "facts" are filtered through the media. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:24 PM Response to Reply #120 |
122. Skip Gates identified himself to the Cambridge police |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:32 PM Response to Reply #122 |
130. I agree, actually. Upon identification, the cops should have left (they would have |
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Trocadero (892 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:54 PM Response to Reply #92 |
192. STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 02:06 AM Response to Reply #92 |
234. Except unfortunately |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 04:14 AM Response to Reply #234 |
250. That's right. He left out all of those things. |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:28 AM Response to Reply #234 |
267. See, those last two "facts" are extremely racist. You do see that, right? nt. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:45 PM Response to Reply #267 |
367. They demonstrate the systemic racism |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:27 PM Response to Reply #75 |
125. Fair enough. |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:35 PM Response to Reply #125 |
133. In a sense, I'm glad this happened because it gave Obama a national forum to speak |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:32 PM Response to Reply #60 |
172. Bingo. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:47 PM Response to Reply #60 |
357. You don't think he had read the police report? Not a good assumption. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #60 |
359. Simple. He knew that the cop did not leave once he established that |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
86. So, Obama admits he doesn't know all the facts, yet claims |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:08 PM Response to Reply #86 |
94. Obama ran down the incident very well. He said he didn't know ALL |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:10 PM Response to Reply #94 |
99. I think there is a difference between people running their mouth on a |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:12 PM Response to Reply #99 |
105. President Obama was careful to say he didn't know ALL the facts. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:10 PM Response to Reply #94 |
102. You have selective hearing. How does being fair-minded equate to excusing police abuse? Calm down. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:13 PM Response to Reply #102 |
107. LOL. Does that work on people you know? |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:15 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. Regardless of the strength of my argument, "calm down" is usually |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:16 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. "Calm down" is not an argument. It's an evasion. n/t |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:18 PM Response to Reply #111 |
115. Really? Hmm...nt. |
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Dystopian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:52 PM Response to Reply #111 |
146. I've read this entire thread... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:57 PM Original message |
Thanks, Dystopian. |
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Dystopian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
201. You're quite welcome... |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:57 PM Response to Reply #146 |
148. Curiously, what do you think of the rest of us who, despite disagreeing, are |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:13 PM Response to Reply #148 |
162. Doesn't that depend on when you stop beating your wives? n/t |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:20 PM Response to Reply #162 |
164. How old are you? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:24 PM Response to Reply #164 |
166. Old enough not to be manipulated by amateurs, thanks. n/t |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:26 PM Response to Reply #166 |
168. Then we agree! Thank goodness for something. nt. |
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Dystopian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:23 AM Response to Reply #148 |
199. I don't understand.... |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:29 AM Response to Reply #199 |
268. No. I'm saying that those who don't agree with you are not necessarily |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 06:39 PM Response to Reply #146 |
400. You do know that one of the cops was black right? |
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Dystopian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:59 PM Response to Reply #400 |
409. Yes, aware... |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:28 PM Response to Reply #107 |
127. It's a repeated assertion of your emotional and less than rational response to this matter. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:38 PM Response to Reply #127 |
136. Right. It's an ad hom, not an argument. |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:39 PM Response to Reply #136 |
138. Are you so blinded by emotion that you can't see that we are both agreeing with you here? nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:40 PM Response to Reply #138 |
140. LOL |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:44 PM Response to Reply #140 |
144. I guess so. "Calm down" is not only a non-argument but is ineffective and |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:27 PM Response to Reply #86 |
126. I just watched it again. Here is what I think Obama means: |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:29 PM Response to Reply #86 |
128. I admit that I don't know all the facts about you... |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:31 PM Response to Reply #128 |
129. Pretty stupid post. |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:36 PM Response to Reply #128 |
134. Oh boy...let's not "trumpet" this type of behavior please. nt. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:41 PM Response to Reply #134 |
141. Sorry. Small joke. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 02:08 AM Response to Reply #86 |
235. Weren't you listening |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
131. Hey some annoying DU'ers disagree with Obama! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:40 PM Response to Reply #131 |
139. LOL |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
143. 4th Amendment to the Constitution--read it here |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:57 PM Response to Reply #143 |
147. If somebody actually broke in, Prof. Gates would probably want |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:59 PM Response to Reply #147 |
152. Right up to the moment when Gates identified himself as the owner. |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:05 PM Response to Reply #152 |
158. Yep. He was arrested AFTER he fully identified himself. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:08 PM Response to Reply #158 |
160. I was so happy to see Obama not minimize the abuse black and brown people |
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seaglass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 06:46 AM Response to Reply #158 |
262. Actually either Gates was caught in a lie or we have both the police officer and a witness lying. |
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TheCML (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:02 PM Response to Reply #147 |
153. I expect... |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:05 PM Response to Reply #153 |
157. You know things |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #147 |
381. No one is faulting the cop for responding to the call. However, it very soon became obvious that |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
150. He's right. nt |
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2whitedogs (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
163. Uh, yeah |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 05:17 AM Response to Reply #163 |
257. Welcome to our forum! |
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clixtox (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:57 AM Response to Reply #163 |
302. A sincere welcome to DU, and not just because I have had Samoyeds! |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
176. What EVERYONE hasn't realized.... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:44 PM Response to Reply #176 |
182. No, his license showed the correct address. n/t |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:10 AM Response to Reply #182 |
215. Cite? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:23 AM Response to Reply #215 |
218. His lawyer's statement: |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:59 AM Response to Reply #218 |
350. Perhaps an outside source. I'm not one to put creedance in what lawyers say off the record. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #350 |
352. The identification he provided is not an issue and he was not arrested |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #352 |
382. Right. So it's a non factor. Very good... Then why was he arrested... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #382 |
383. Of course it's a joke. The mayor has apologized to Gates. nt |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 04:27 PM Response to Reply #383 |
387. I said that the case of racism is a joke based on his prior and current record on race relations... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 05:07 PM Response to Reply #387 |
388. Oh, brother. Take it up with the NAACP. They also issued |
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firedupdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:49 PM Response to Reply #176 |
185. Wrong. His address was the same and he was in his own home. |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:11 AM Response to Reply #185 |
216. Cite yourself. And it was a rental property... hence the neighbor not knowing him. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:24 AM Response to Reply #216 |
219. Wasn't a neighbor but an employee of a campus alum mag |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:03 AM Response to Reply #219 |
318. so in essence the police took the word of an idiot over the owner of the house |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #318 |
330. Looks like it. n/t |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #318 |
349. The temporary renter of a house. Fact check. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 01:54 AM Response to Reply #349 |
426. She had to have known who he was if she worked at Harvard |
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Fading Captain (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
187. Obama just turned the health care battle into a two months |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
189. There is racial profiling. It exists. It's there. It has to be pointed out. |
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tj2001 (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:26 AM Response to Original message |
202. >50% cops are ok. The rest are thugs and liars |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:33 AM Response to Reply #202 |
204. let's be honest - more like 20... lol actually it's something we truly can't know the real figure |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 02:12 AM Response to Reply #202 |
236. And more coming |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
203. nice to see him step into it and speak out, imo... but... |
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Piewhacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
209. Kpete: Obama didn't say that. Salon deliberately misstates. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:26 AM Response to Reply #209 |
220. Obama did say they acted stupidly and he was biting his tongue, at that. |
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Piewhacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:06 AM Response to Reply #220 |
319. Of course. Salon could say that, alas they... ahem, lied about what Obama said. |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:58 AM Response to Original message |
210. I would agree that if the facts are as they being reported now, that the police |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:07 AM Response to Original message |
214. Awesome. I hope he doesn't "clarify." Time to have a serious discussion about police abuse of power. |
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lexanman (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:19 AM Response to Original message |
217. that is all I need to know |
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SmoothOperator357 (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:51 AM Response to Reply #217 |
228. Cops |
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lexanman (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 02:00 AM Response to Reply #228 |
232. Race in this particular case |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 02:18 AM Response to Reply #228 |
237. Welcome to DU, SmoothOperator357. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 04:07 PM Response to Reply #237 |
384. And how do you know Gates didn't take his shirt off and put it back on? Were you tthere? (j/k) |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 05:21 PM Response to Reply #384 |
391. LOL! |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:19 AM Response to Reply #217 |
323. "Racist Assholes need to be thrown off this website" |
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BOG PERSON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:39 AM Response to Original message |
224. Obama was being pretty darn charitable in describing it as "stupid" behavior IMO |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 02:19 AM Response to Reply #224 |
238. When he said it, he looked very much as if he wanted to say something else. n/t |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 02:29 AM Response to Original message |
239. And people wonder why I have a venomous hatred for police officers... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 04:53 AM Response to Reply #239 |
254. Former police chief Norm Stamper wrote a very good book on the violence in American |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:50 PM Response to Reply #254 |
358. Ironic that Stamper would write about police violence, |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:34 AM Response to Reply #358 |
422. He came to Jesus after retirement |
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craigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 03:34 AM Response to Original message |
241. Obama told the truth. It's too bad it took for this to happen to someone he knew for Obama to speak |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 04:04 AM Response to Original message |
246. This is the kind of thing President Obama should be saying often |
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watrwefitinfor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 06:43 AM Response to Original message |
260. Who was the woman who asked the question? |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:22 AM Response to Reply #260 |
308. Lynn Sweet asked the question |
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watrwefitinfor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:44 AM Response to Reply #308 |
328. Thank you. :-) n/t |
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laureloak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:39 AM Response to Original message |
273. Obama should have withheld comment on this one. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:37 AM Response to Reply #273 |
312. The story has already unfolded. The charges were dropped and the mayor |
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laureloak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:26 PM Response to Reply #312 |
362. Too quick to make assumptions on everyone's part. |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
274. And he is right. n/t |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
277. that is accurate, if a bit of an understatement. |
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ehrnst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
294. Here's an email with the facts from Charles Ogletree on Monday: |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:32 AM Response to Reply #294 |
310. explain something to me why did they arrest him, he showed his ID? |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
300. I agree with the Pres. on this one. n/t |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
313. not the words i would have used, but Obama is still right, of course... |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
317. he was right... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:47 AM Response to Reply #317 |
331. The NAACP has issued a statement demanding they change |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:58 AM Response to Reply #331 |
333. yup... and it's all we have here for radio... all right wing |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
335. What Obama said. |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
353. he's wholly correct |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
365. Skip Gates and the Post-Racial Project |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 05:16 PM Response to Reply #365 |
390. I felt exactly the same way about that snapshot and posted about it. |
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Gator_Matt (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
366. Reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Bart gets run over by Mr. Burns |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #366 |
399. Because they were imposed on a greedy lawyer and greed respectively? |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
377. Problem: Police have altered their report and changed things to cover up misconduct of officer |
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Panhandle Dem (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
386. It saddens me to no end the contempt and hate being shown |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 05:12 PM Response to Reply #386 |
389. You want to defend racist cops who turn around and lie |
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Panhandle Dem (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 06:27 PM Response to Reply #389 |
397. Okay EFerrari, You defend "FINE" cops... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 06:44 PM Response to Reply #397 |
401. It's common sense. The cops in my precinct would NEVER |
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Panhandle Dem (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:22 PM Response to Reply #401 |
405. I should have known... Just a Poser |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:36 PM Response to Reply #405 |
406. What am I posing as? A resident of my precinct? |
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Panhandle Dem (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:51 PM Response to Reply #406 |
407. Sorry for taking a cheap shot |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:47 PM Response to Reply #407 |
420. I appreciate that as much as someone who wasn't there |
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Panhandle Dem (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:22 AM Response to Reply #420 |
423. I think our dialog is a perfect example of how egos |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:43 PM Response to Reply #386 |
416. Then maybe this isn't the board for you. n/t |
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Panhandle Dem (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:35 AM Response to Reply #416 |
424. Not sure what that means. No opposing view point allowed? |
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Ndovu (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
392. Police Thugs Terrorize Blacks, Whites, Asians, Latinos |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
393. I wouldn't have been so "charitable" - he was a "FUCKING RACIST PIG" |
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RayStar (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
410. Jerk Cop |
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Zavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
412. If he didn't know all the facts, Obama acted stupidly by commenting. |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #412 |
413. If we all refrained from commenting before knowing all the facts |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:29 PM Response to Reply #413 |
414. None of us are president of the US. |
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Zavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:33 PM Response to Reply #413 |
415. True, but just think of |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:33 PM Response to Reply #412 |
419. No. That would have been cowardice. He met the question very well |
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