Tech faculty oppose Gonzales-More than 40 faculty members sign petition against former AG

[kpete]

Source: Avalanche Journal

Tech faculty oppose Gonzales
By Sarah Nightingale | AVALANCHE-JOURNAL

Saturday, July 25, 2009
Story last updated at 7/25/2009 - 3:32 am


TEXAS TECH/More than 40 faculty members sign petition against former AG

More than 40 Texas Tech professors have objected in a petition to Chancellor Kent Hance's decision to hire former U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, according to the petition's creator.

Petition creator Walter Schaller, a Tech philosophy professor since 1986, said Friday he decided to take action because "with the emphasis on ethics the university has adopted, a guy that misled Congress is not the kind of person we want to represent Texas Tech."

Hance said Friday evening he was aware of the petition, but had not yet seen the document. It would not affect Gonzales' appointment, he said.

"That's their freedom of speech and I applaud that, but you don't go around making decisions based on faculty positions," Hance said. "The dean and the department head both signed off on this

Read more: http://lubbockonline.com/stories/072509/loc_470732313.shtml

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more:
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/25/texas-tech-petition/

[47of74]

1. The administration sounds like a bunch of Bushies to me.

[jwirr]

2. My respect for that school just went up a notch. Who wants a criminal

teaching their children how to be criminals?

[No Elephants]

8. My respect for the school has declined (if that's possible). I

respect the 40 or 45 faculty members who support the petition, but I don't know what percentage of the total faculty they constitute. The administration, the students and the alums seem to have no problem with Gonzo or his non-existent memory. And no one is firing him. Besides, they hired him in the first place, knowing what a scoundrel he is.

[krkaufman]

22. "scoundrel"

Reminds me of the criticism I caught from my sister when calling Hitler a "douchebag."

Both sorta fall short of properly characterizing the men.

[No Elephants]

38. Agree.

[krkaufman]

21. Your statement reminds me of the South Park episode, "I'm a Little Bit Country" (s07e04) ...

... which aired around the time of the start of the Iraq invasion, where the supposed message of the episode was that America was served by both opposition camps. The hawks supposedly "protect" the country, while the anti-war protesters give the appearance that the country isn't completely amoral and bloodthirsty. "The strength of this country is to say one thing and do another."

The protesting Texas Tech professors helps to mitigate any opinion backlash that Texas Tech might experience from employing a criminal. it's one thing to sign a petition or protest, but if these professors stay-on when the university retains Gonzales, then they are supporting the action.

[geckosfeet]

3. Which begs the question of why can Yoo get hired at a univershity like Berkley law school.

Do they think that they are immune from the poison in his veins?

[theoldman]

5. Yoo is far worse than Gonzales.

Gonzales is ignorant so many students would just laugh at him. Yoo may end up poisoning the minds of young students.

[tj2001]

10. Gonzales was not known for his legal brilliance in Texas

He was known as Bush's loyal lapdog.

[No Elephants]

15. Disagree. Please see Reply 14, among many other things. There is

no "worse" among Gonzalez, Bybee or Yoo because that would imply that at least one of them is better. Reality is that they are three equally disgusting turds in suits, or in Bybee's case, robe.

Gonzalex assigned out these memos so that his fingerprints would not be on them and the other clowns wrote what he wanted them to write.

[tj2001]

9. Yoo started at Berkeley in 1993

way before he showed his fascist colors. They got fooled good.

[geckosfeet]

23. Is he actually tenured?

[tj2001]

27. Yes, he's very hard to get rid of

short of a criminal conviction or something similar, according to his supreme boss the Berkeley chancellor.

[Iowa]

35. Hopefully they're making his life as miserable as they can...

...by doing things like this:

-Ridicule him regularly and publicly.
-Put his photo on the front page of the student newspaper - every issue - with large headline proclaiming he isn't welcome, and a countdown on the days he has stained the University's image with his presence.
-Give him no office, or an office in the basement of some dank, mildew-ridden basement with no air-conditioning.
-Make any class he teaches at 6AM and let students know that anyone who signs up for his classes will have their names listed in the newspaper (along with the countdown)
-Provide SLOW security.
-Immediately initiate public investigations of any accusations made by students, and encourage students to watch his every move.
-And so on...

If they really want him to leave, they can make it happen.

[glitch]

4. They don't want to see him slithering around the halls, swallowing food whole in the cafeteria

:scared: who can blame them.

[ecstatic]

6. Good. Let him go to Brigham Young or Falwell's school

(forget the name).

[Stevepol]

28. Liberty University I think.

[LiberalFighter]

7. They should get rid of the university's chancellor too.

[tomm2thumbs]

11. Yoo and Gonzales should be unemployable in any decent school in this country

and yet there they sit, in nice cushy jobs pulling a paycheck for 'educating' others in their tactics

perhaps those schools should be reconsidered by any honorable Democrat parents about to send their kids there

you are funding their salaries folks

[hedgehog]

12. I agree with your statement, which raises the question of

the decency of a lot of our reputable universities and think tanks. There is one school in Texas, (I don't think it's Texas tech) that has become a holding pen for ex-CIA and ex-Bush family employees (if there's a difference) until they are needed again.

[tomm2thumbs]

13. maybe someone from Texas can refresh us on it -is Texas Tech in a 'dry county'?

Where they aren't allowed to sell liquor ?

update - things just changed some months ago - ah the internet

Up until May 9, 2009, Lubbock County and the City of Lubbock (Texas Tech's home) had an unusual legal situation regarding the sale of alcoholic beverages. The *county* allowed package sales of alcohol but not "by the drink" sales except at private institutions such as country clubs. Inside the Lubbock *city limits*, the situation was reversed with restaurants and bars able to serve alcohol but liquor stores forbidden.

On August 12, 2008 the Lubbock Chamber of Commerce announced that they would lead the effort to get enough signatures to force an up-or-down vote on allowing county-wide packaged alcohol sales. Lubbock County Commissioners placed the issues on the May 9, 2009 ballot on December 22, 2008. Proposition 1, which expanded the sale of packaged alcohol in the county, passed by nearly a margin of 2 to 1 with 64.5 percent in favor. Proposition 2, which legalized the sale of mixed-drink in restaurants county-wide, passed with 69.5 percent in favor.

[Paladin]

17. It May Have Changed In Recent Years.....

....but in the past, beer and liquor weren't allowed to be sold in Lubbock; you had to drive out of town to the so-called "Strip" to get your booze---a dozen or more liquor stores all clustered together on an old highway; at night their neon signs lit up the barren prairie for miles. And those liquor store owners fought against booze sales in the city like a bunch of rabid skunks......

[tomm2thumbs]

19. ahhh, another place for right wingers to wear their disguise other than sex clubs

heh heh heh

[tomm2thumbs]

18. ** interesting wiki on legal 'blue laws' still in effect in the United States - see your state

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_law

(scroll down for your state's laws)

'A blue law is a type of law, typically found in the United States, designed to enforce religious standards, particularly the observance of Sunday as a day of worship or rest, and a restriction on Sunday shopping.'

[a la izquierda]

31. Oklahoma's are the worst...

hands down.

[No Elephants]

14. What about Bybee? We are directly funding his salary. Congress made him a damn .

federal judge.

And not just a judge, but a judge on the Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. We don't expect people who gave Bushco legal cover to pay their dues in lowly federal district court. Oh, no. They get right to within spitting distance of the SCOTUS bench. Confirmed in 2003, but confirmed 74 to 19, too, thank you very much.

Know what he did to get nominated? He wrote the torture memos Gonzalez wanted him to write. He had asked Gonzo for a nomination, and Gonzo supposedly said something like, "Why don't you come to D.C. and work for the gubbamint for a while; and we'll see what openes up.

After Obama said something about going after only those who gave the legal advice, Bybee said, via his peeps, that he regretted writing them. Too late, you son of a bitch.

Federal judge, of coursie, is a lifetime appointment, but he can be impeached. Do you see our Republicrat Congress impeaching him?

[tomm2thumbs]

16. I had heard something was in the works on that but I cannot personally confirm it /nt

[No Elephants]

20. If so, I would have more respect for this Congress.

[fascisthunter]

24. good... the dirt bag should be treated like this for the rest of his life

he worked hard for it...

[LuckyLib]

25. Texas institutions of higher education just keep stepping in it --

first SMU brings the Chimp's library, now Tech wants Gonzales. Good grief!

[DebbieCDC]

26. "Chancellor Kent Hance"

Where have I heard that name before?

Wasn't he a puke Congressman some years back?

Figures.

[tblue37]

29. Good for them. Gonzales and his ilk need to be

publicly shamed wherever they rear their ugly heads.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

30. Woder if those attacking Woo and Gonzo felt the same way about Churchill?

[Solly Mack]

32. If only America jailed its government war criminals...

[truthisfreedom]

33. How do you hire a professor with such a hazy memory?

What use is he to students when he can't remember what happened last week?

[eppur_se_muova]

34. Holy crap, what a bunch of liberal-haters have left in the Comments!

I doubt any of these people actually know what a 'liberal' is or could tell you what any of Obama's actual policies are -- they just hate them, without having to know anything.

[Brother Buzz]

37. The word "liberal" was usurped and corrupted years ago...

That's partly why I call myself a progressive these days. Truth be told, a majority of the people using the term liberal in a pejorative manner can't, when challenged, give a decent definition of a liberal. :shrug:

[TheCentepedeShoes]

36. I grauated in 1970

I checked the list to see if I recognized any names
I'm pretty sure one of my history profs is still there, not on the list
Most were somewhat "old" then and are therefore mostly "dead" by now