Texas police: Mother says devil made her kill son

[undeterred]

Source: Associated Press

DALLAS — Police said they found a 3 1/2-week-old infant stabbed and decapitated in a Texas home on Sunday and his mother screaming that she killed her son after the devil told her to do it.

Otty Sanchez, 33, of San Antonio, was taken to a local hospital in critical condition with self-inflicted stab wounds to her chest and stomach, said San Antonio police spokesman Joe Rios. Investigators took a sword, a machete and a kitchen knife from the home. Officers also found two children unharmed at the home, though it wasn't immediately clear where they were taken.

Sanchez will be charged with capital murder, Rios said. Police said they didn't know whether she had an attorney. A spokeswoman at University Hospital in San Antonio said she couldn't release information on Sanchez's condition, but Sgt. Wes McCourt said her wounds didn't appear to be life threatening.

Rios said Sanchez was sitting on the couch "screaming that she killed her baby," who police identified as Scott Wesley Buchholtz-Sanchez, when police were called to the home around 5 a.m. Sunday.


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A bad weekend for children.

[mzteris]

1. sounds like

postpartum psychosis.

edit to add: she needs treatment, not to be charged with "capital murder". (After a diligent investigation, of course.)

although, this IS Texas where they'd just as soon execute them as look at 'em.

[undeterred]

2. You're right, it does.

Really tragic.

[Warpy]

6. Texas doesn't believe in mental illness, it might cost

the oil men a few bucks to evaluate and treat it.

I'm afraid this poor woman will end up in prison and untreated.

[Lithos]

3. Sick

Though I am sure this is an extreme case of PPD. If so, then just another fu towards Tom Cruise.

L-

[BlooInBloo]

4. Sigh. :(((((((

[TheCowsCameHome]

5. The same thing happened here in eastern Mass. the other day.

A guy killed his young daughter because God told him to.

Terrible.

[undeterred]

8. In the case of post partum depression

one would expect that at least she'd had some recent contact with a doctor who might have picked up on her condition.

I wonder how often people think God tells them to do something evil and how often they think its the Devil talking. :shrug:

[EFerrari]

12. It's very possible to be quietly psychotic and show no sign of it at all.

A medical professional would need to be pro-active.

I hate these cases. :(

[Schema Thing]

15. in TX, it's running about 5:1 god over satan

[timtom]

47. In regard to that:

Folks might want to check out

The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Origin_of_Consciousness_in_the_Breakdown_of_the_Bicameral_Mind

by Julian Jaynes

[No Elephants]

48. Texans may not be not good at discerning the difference.

[dflprincess]

20. Postpartum psychosis, not postpartum depression

there is a difference and too often the signs of even severe postpartum depression or psychosis are ignored or written off as "baby blues". Even people close to the mother may not realize how ill she actually is. It might help if these conditions were discussed more openly - it might make it easier for a new mom to ask for help before her disease gets this bad. Instead, new mothers are pretty much left to fend for themselves and wonder "what's wrong with them" if they're not feeling all the joy they're told new mothers should feel.

And, it could be the mother wasn't getting follow up either because she couldn't afford it or because, with her illness, she wasn't seeing her doctor the way she should. She may have been adept at hiding her feelings when speaking to the doctor (again, thinging a new mom shouldn't feel this way) and it's not impossible even her doctor missed the symptoms. And, as a rule, moms don't see their doctor until 6 weeks or so after giving birth. This isn't Sweden or France, new mothers here really don't have a lot of contact with medical professionals once they have the baby home and no one shows up at the house to help out.

[undeterred]

58. A neighbor of mine with a newborn

brought him in for a checkup when he was 8 days old. But I suppose if the attention is focused on the baby and not the mother it wouldn't help.

[WriteDown]

50. I can understand doing something if God told you to, but

why would you listen to the devil? :shrug:

It's like Son of Sam. Why would you listen to a dog? :shrug:

[RaleighNCDUer]

16. Devil told her - God told him

Are the imaginary critters in some kind of fucking competition?

[dogtag]

7. In a case like this

why waste time and money with a murder trial. This woman clearly belongs in a mental institution for the criminally insane. Postpartum depression and an overdose of fundamentalism are probably the culprits.

[undeterred]

9. I wonder how different psychosis looks in religious vs nonreligious people.

I bet psychotic atheists hear supernatural powers too.

[Mopar151]

10. We are more apt to know a hallucination when we see one n/t

[undeterred]

11. Atheists are more apt to know a hallucination isn't real

than religious people experiencing post-partum psychosis?

What evidence do you have to support your interesting theory?

[RaleighNCDUer]

21. My non-believer father KNEW that what he saw - and had no doubt

about having seen it - when he was visited by 'ghosts' was a hallucination. It was one of the ways his emerging Alzheimers revealed itself.

Seeing something that you KNOW does not exist means it MUST be a hallucination.

OTOH, a religious person hearing god or the devil talking, that goes right along with pre-existing beliefs, feeding the delusion.

[undeterred]

23. I don't think alzheimers and psychosis are the same.

The vast majority of religious people do not expect to ever hear God or the Devil talking to them in a literal sense either.

[RaleighNCDUer]

29. Alzheimers is a particular form of dementia which can include

full blown visual, audio and olfactory hallucinations. If all your senses tell you that 'something' is going on, then for all intents and purposes it IS going on. It is no different. Because it slips in and out, in the early stages, he was able to know, in a lucid phase, that what he experienced was a hallucination, and he doubted its reality even while experiencing it. Unfortunately, it being due to Alzheimers, it wasn't long before he was unable to distinguish between the real and the fantasy as his personality deteriorated.

How is that different from John Nash being able to deal with psychosis purely though the strength of his mind - remember 'A Beautiful Mind'? Once he came to fully comprehend that certain people in his life were imaginary he was able to disregard them, even though they still appeared to him. His psychosis was not accompanied by mental deterioration and he lived with it for years.

And it makes no difference if 'The vast majority of religious people do not expect to ever hear God or the Devil talking to them in a literal sense either.' The existence of god and the devil are part of their core beliefs, so while they never expect it to happen it would be contrary to their beliefs to DENY the voices when they appear. Accepting the supernatural REQUIRES you to accept the supernatural. How many people wholeheartedly believe in god until the very day god speaks to them? If they hear and don't believe what they hear, they never believed in the first place.

[undeterred]

30. Faith is something which changes over the course of a lifetime.

Some believers become atheists or agnostics and some grow stronger in their faith. Its not like a light switch that has only two positions.

[Zhade]

42. Um, that's literally impossible. Belief is the OPPOSITE of atheism.

And everyone is agnostic, because no one -- ever -- has knowledge that gods exist.

[Zhade]

41. DING DING DING -- because we don't believe in the unproven impossible, we know.

It really is that easy.

[dogtag]

13. If atheists

and agnostics also hack up of drown their children because Zeus or Thor told them to, I don't recall hearing about it. It's always the religious nuts we hear about.

[undeterred]

17. I don't think you understand what psychosis is.

When someone is suffering from psychosis, they hear voices in their heads and think some outside force is speaking to them and trying to control them. Being an atheist or an agnostic doesn't make you miraculously immune to mental illness.

Son of Sam thought a dog was talking to him.

[RaleighNCDUer]

25. Actually, he thought a demon had possessed the dog.

He was also deeply immersed in the occult, and claimed that several of the shootings were done by other members of a satatic coven he belonged to.

He was very much a believer.

[WriteDown]

75. What if The Wolfman and The Mummy told him to do it...

would that make it better?

[PassingFair]

26. A "demon" possessed dog....

"Within a few weeks of his arrest, Berkowitz was hinting that others were involved in the .44 murders. In a letter to the New York Post dated September 19, 1977, Berkowitz repeated the possessed dog story, but closed out his missive with the warning, "There are other Sons out there, God help the world."<42>

In later years, he has discussed the cult claims in greater detail, but alleges that he cannot divulge all he knows without putting his family at risk. The cult had roughly two dozen core members in New York, the "twenty-two disciples of hell" mentioned in the Breslin letter. The cult had ties across the U.S., claimed Berkowitz, and was deeply involved in drug smuggling and other illegal activities. Berkowitz reportedly invited the former priest and exorcist Malachi Martin to visit him to discuss his past Satanic cult involvement.<43>

Hockenberry asserts that, even aside from the Satanic cult claims, many officials doubted the single-shooter theory, writing, "hat most don't know about the Son of Sam case is that from the beginning, not everyone bought the idea that Berkowitz acted alone. The list of skeptics includes both the police who worked the case and the prosecutor from Queens where five of the shootings took place."<1>

<unsnip

Rife with religious delusions, he became "born again" in prison.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

31. delete

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

32. That was a cover anyway......

More and more has come out that says Berkowitz was not the only shooter. His mental illness backstory was a total cover for the fact he got mixed up in a satanic cult, and was deemed the patsy for his getting the parking ticket the night of the last shooting

[awoke_in_2003]

27. Zeus and Thor

were "gods"- don't think an atheist would cite them :)

[Stumbler]

24. Hold on a second...

I thought in states like Texas the purpose of the murder trial and efficient executions were to save the state from wasted time and money spent on institutions for the mentally ill. Granted, the privately-owned prisons would make more money by not executing her, but this is Texas we're talking about, and they have standards to keep up. Although, "the devil made me do it" defense might just save her from death row...

[pattmarty]

34. Yeah, but it's Texas and she has a "Spanish" name so it's....................

...........off to the ovens with her.

[Schema Thing]

14. Jehovah and Satan have a tug of war going on in TX

though Yahweh is winning the body count handily.

Shit, what is this, five or six of these cases in 10 years in TX?

[OhioChick]

18. Poor kid.

:wtf: is wrong with people?

[steven johnson]

19. Sounds like the right to bear arms backfired

US life expectancy would be the same as 'socialist' democracies if our homicide and motor vehicle accident rates were the same.

[Psephos]

44. and along the same line of thought

Per capita income in Sub-Saharan Africa would be the same as in the US if the people living there earned as much money.

[chollybocker]

22. With a name like Sanchez, is there any doubt...

...that this particular child murder story will go viral? Just sayin'....

[nightrain]

28. oh dear, a tragedy.

[Rage for Order]

33. Wow, there are a bunch of Bill Frists in this thread!

This thread contains several diagnoses of postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis by virtue of those individuals reading a few paragraphs of a news story. At least Bill Frist actually laid eyes on Terry Schiavo via television before he made his diagnosis.

If the father had done this there would be no shortage of people here calling him a monster and suggesting law enforcement should lock him up and throw away the key. The double standard is quite telling.

[Lars39]

35. Likely is postpartum psychosis...she'd just had the baby 3 1/2 weeks before.

[undeterred]

60. I hesitate to point out the obvious

but men don't experience postpartum psychosis.

[cali]

65. It doesn't take much experience to reasonably conclude that this woman was psychotic

when she did this. And if a father did the same thing, I'd say that he was psychotic as well. But let's face it, men rarely commit crimes like this. They may shake a baby out of anger, killing him/her, but they don't commit the same kind of murders of their children that women do. And yeah, it's likely post partum psychosis.

[provis99]

36. I wonder what the DU gunnuts would say about this incident

"If the baby had a concealed weapon permit, he could have shot his mother and prevented his own murder!"

[proteus_lives]

39. Yeah, that's what a RKBA Democrat would say......

:eyes:

Dumbass.

[RaleighNCDUer]

57. That's ridiculous.

You don't need CC to have a weapon in your own crib.

[Tim01]

61. You are obsessed with guns, not us. nt

[rd_kent]

66. Did I miss something here?

Did she shoot the kid, or cut off its head with a machete? What does this have to do with guns?

[Common Sense Party]

72. I wonder what a DU gungrabber would say about this incident

"We need more sword control laws!"

Stupid is as stupid does.

[NoodleyAppendage]

37. Post-partum psychosis. Fairly clear case given what's been reported. n/t

J

[proteus_lives]

38. Clearly PPD.

I still hope she doesn't get just a slap on the wrist.

[Zhade]

40. To anyone who says "religion doesn't kill" -- you're wrong.

NT!

[No Elephants]

49. Religion did not kill that baby. Psychosis did. Try eliminating insanity.

[comtec]

55. That would require eliminating religion

at least then she could not use the crutch of religion to hide behind.
"he was possessed by the devil?" really? seriously?
(dis)organized religion is the biggest threat to humanity since day, word one!

[undeterred]

59. Psychosis doesn't care what your religion is.

[rd_kent]

67. And religion doesnt care how bad your psychosis is

as long as you have some.

[undeterred]

68. Wow, that's just brilliant.

:sarcasm:

[rd_kent]

69. Thanks, I think so too.

[PassingFair]

108. LOL

Touche!

:rofl:

[Zhade]

62. Belief in unproven mythology is an indicator of mental illness.

She normally believes outlandish stuff, this was just a difference in degree -- not kind.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

115. I keep telling christians that. They keep getting angry.

[JI7]

43. Why would you do something because the Devil tells you to do it ?

i wouldn't kill my kids or anyone else no matter who told me to do it including God.

[comtec]

46. Give it a couple days before we start attacking the bible thumpers

Say mon... oh damn it is monday...
I'm curious where the father was in all this.
I wonder if this is why two parents by instinct are needed.
One to protect the child while the mother recovers?
This is truly a tragedy.

I suppose some cynics might suggest the baby's better off, passing on, and having been spared the poison of a 'thumper' house hold, but still. poor things, both of them :(

[TrogL]

64. I'll start in - the Bible thumpers are the ones going on about demons

My understanding is, down that neck of the woods, there's no much else on TV or the radio so she'd be getting an earful of "demon" crap all day long.

[WriteDown]

70. Yeah...

Dallas isn't a major city or anything. :rofl:

[comtec]

78. *looks at watch*

ok enuf time passed ;)
and yes I agree it's total bullshit all the "devil is gonna git yew" crap these people get all the time.
I have a friend who lives outside Dallas and he swears up and down there are nice, sane, good people in Texas.
Honestly I believe him.... but he doesn't see the image that Texas is projecting to the rest of the country.
There are sane people everywhere... but Texas(ans) seems to get some kind of perverted joy out of projecting a particular fucked-up'dness that is unique to their special little (short bus) state.

He's a good friend who happens to be gay. I worry for him sometimes.
I worry he's going to end up nailed to a g/d fence, or god knows what else those fucked up homophobic assholes there might do to him.

Trust me I could go on for days about the bullshit of religion, especially in the thumper belts.
But as a decent person I think that I should at least attempt to give a short period of grieving before attacking savagely these mind blank, (god's) eye spitting, brain dead morans!

A child died, a 3 week old BABY!!!

What kind of monster does that, let alone a mother!?

[comtec]

45. *small prayer for the child*

Please accept this child's soul so that it may rest in peace and move on to the next incarnation.

Please help this woman find her sanity and acceptance of herself.

This woman will never forgive herself. When she does regain her sanity, she may loose it in grief over what she's done.
Putting her to death (as opposed to say... treating her, which might be too Christian of a thing to do) might even be a kindness.
She'll never forgive herself, she'll never trust herself.
She has created her own hell.

Hell after all is self made. We create it as a subconscious way to punish those sins that are particularly grievous.
No even slightly decent human being can kill another human without being haunted by those actions forever.
Everything i've heard from vets, assassins, etc is that it stays with you if you have a shred of humanity, forever. every one.

I'm not a religious person, but I believe in the spirit (a concept that spans pretty much all belief systems). and this woman's soul has been grievously damaged, and it will take the rest of this life, at least, to recover.

I hope she can find sanity and learn to accept and gain wisdom from this.

[gabby garcia]

53. exactly what kind of wisdom do you think

she could gain from this?
more likely she will dig herself deeper into a religious fervor in order to make some sort of peace with herself.
if you can call that sanity.
I wouldn't.

I'm sure this will prompt Gov. Perry to look into better postnatal care programs for uninsured and low income families!
right?
:sarcasm:

[comtec]

54. Sanity comes in many forms

You'll notice I'm not specific.
In the end it's up for the person to decide what is sane for them isn't it.
One can only hope what is sane for them, is not complete insanity to the rest of us.

[Zhade]

63. Uh, noooooo, sanity is NOT decided on a case-by-case basis.

Mental illness is testable and treatable, and well-defined. It's not up to if someone feels they're sane.

[marshall]

51. I wonder where the husband/father/boyfriend was?

Two other children found in the home, so this woman had some sort of an established family. But there is no mention of any other adult.

[WriteDown]

52. Parthenogenesis?

Probably not.

[marshall]

56. I'm sure at the very least there is a "baby daddy"

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/baby_daddy

But did this woman have anyone, mother, father, siblings, neighbors, coworkers, caseworkers, etc., to offer her some support for the three children she was raising?

[LisaL]

79. The other two aren't her kids.

[Thickasabrick]

71. Update: Aunt of woman said she had been in and out of psych ward

Also report that she ate some of the body parts.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/hotstories/6548023.html

[WriteDown]

74. Wow.......ugh.....

People that should not be having children.

[mamaleah]

76. Why was she ever out of a psych ward?

nt

[KamaAina]

73. Much, much more in GD

if you really want it. :(

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6161731&mesg_id=6161731

[24601]

77. And I suppose Texas has proof that the devil had an alabi, so

she is also a liar.

How tragic.

[WePurrsevere]

80. Kick n/t

[coyote]

81. Warning signs missed in baby dismemberment case

Source: Associated Press

SAN ANTONIO – Otty Sanchez, a schizophrenic with a history of hospitalizations, refused to take medication for her postpartum depression, her son's father said. She'd been going to regular counseling and had been briefly hospitalized since the boy was born.

But the 33-year-old woman's troubles only became apparent to authorities when they found her before dawn Sunday, in a house where she had access to samurai swords, screaming that she had killed her baby. Her 3 1/2-week-old son was dismembered in a scene so gruesome police were left shaken.

"Maybe we missed" warning signs, San Antonio Police Chief William McManus said. "I don't know."

Sanchez was released Tuesday from a hospital where she was treated for self-inflicted cuts to her torso and an attempt to slice her own throat. The former home health care worker, charged with capital murder, is being held at Bexar County Jail on $1 million bond. Calls to relatives were not immediately returned and it was not clear whether Sanchez had an attorney.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090729/ap_on_re_us/us_baby_decapitated

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The father is a fuckin idiot. I knew right away when I heard about this case that this woman had schizophrenia. My mother who has schizophrenia also had a total mental break down after my twin sisters were born. Now this father wants to see her executed. This mother is in another reality and experiencing her own personal hell. She needs serious medical attention. I wouldn't want my worst enemy to experience the hell of schizophrenia. God forgive me, but there were many times I wish my mother was dead so she could experience relief from her own disease.

Yeah drugs help...but that is the catch...they always stop taking them once they feel better.

[EFerrari]

82. Not only that. Sometimes the drugs stop working and you begin all over again

trying to find a cocktail that works and in the mean time, the situation has to be MONITORED closely and that almost never happens.

What a terrible, needless tragedy. But to be honest, I'm just surprised there are more of these cases.

[depakid]

83. The father is schizophrenic, too

[POAS]

85. Just setting a place marker

to come back and see if anybody notices your point!

[Donnachaidh]

86. I gotta ask -- WHO keeps samuri swords in a house with *2* schitzophrenics living there?

And another REAL alarm went off -- BOTH of them are studying to dispense DRUGS? I can only imagine what sort of sick, twisted psychodramas might have been going on in that house. And neither the husband or the mother mentioned that she *might* have mental problems?

This whole story is a gigantic WTF was going on. :wow:

[EFerrari]

87. When you think of all the people that had contact with that couple

or even with just that mother in the week or two before this happened, you begin to realize how little of a safety net there is.

[WriteDown]

89. Do you see anything that warrants removing the child before

this? This is a really tough situation.

[Donnachaidh]

94. I don't have enough info to make that call

This is far more complex than they are reporting.

Dunno -- the dad's reaction really blows my mind, because he is supposedly schitzophrenic as well. No compassion or insight into his wife's problems, before during or after the pregnancy? I know schitzophrenia has several different categories classically, but I've never heard of unfeeling selfish bastard schitzophrenia before this?

And both looking to have careers involving all sorts of drugs.... :wow:

[EFerrari]

113. Sure I do. She'd been hospitalized. Who decided she was stable

enough to go home and care for a child? Who was following up? It's not hard for someone who knows you to figure out when you're still decompensated.

But we're talking about a level of care, of monitoring, that most people will never get.

[WriteDown]

90. Better question...

Who lets two schizophrenics have children?

[Donnachaidh]

95. umm, slippery slope don't you think?

"Let" someone have kids? Wow - do you really think that is the problem here?

From the little information being put out, it seems as if her family was in denial big time about her emotional problems. The stigma of mental disorder can be the cause of that.

I have family members in my family (3 generations ago) that were 2 different types of schitzophrenic. One was manic depressive, and spent most of her waking hours *talking to God*. The only problem she was to anyone was herself - because she'd forget to eat. She had 4 children. Only one had the problem pop up - and he was a dangerous paranoid schitzophrenic. He had an episode and accidently killed someone, because he thought they were taking him to be executed. When he wasn't having visions, he was as docile and sweet as his mother.

I don't think that even today the disorder is understood enough to automatically stop these people from having children. And that sort of mindset has been used in the past to commit atrocities, all in the idea of getting rid of people not deemed *pure* or *good enough*

[marshall]

99. Maybe treatment programs could require patients to take birth control

Then at least they wouldn't have patients getting pregnant by patients while in treatment.

[Mariana]

100. How would you prevent it?

We don't have eugenics laws anymore.

[WriteDown]

103. Just seems unfortunate...

I don't know how you prevent it though.

[depakid]

92. Could be they couldn't legally have guns....

But felt they needed to "protect themselves" from bad guys.

[Donnachaidh]

96. it's possible, but samurai swords?

Heck - someone in the house might be thinking they are Connor MacLeod of the clan MacLeod. :shrug:

[WriteDown]

101. Kitchen knives would be just as dangerous....

Big Knife includes Wustoff, Henckels, Calphalon and several others. :)

[Donnachaidh]

104. most of the people I know with those sort of swords buy them

Because of a fantasy appeal. It's doubtful the kitchen knives put the idea in her head about dismembering her kid.

[WriteDown]

105. I doubt the swords put the idea in her head....

Let's not forget that others have drowned their kids in bathtubs before.

[Donnachaidh]

106. and let's not forget that hubby also has emotional problems

I doubt she bought the swords. Considering his bloodlust and his problems, you don't see the potential for his passive-aggressive pushing of his wife over the edge?

There is far too little information about him and his potential help in causing the death of an innocent child.

[WriteDown]

107. Bloodlust?

I just see a father that is beside himself after the death of his child. I don't see any evidence of bloodlust.....yet.

[Donnachaidh]

109. yet is the operative word now, isn't it?

But of course, calling for her to get the death penalty isn't *bloodlust*, right? :eyes:

[WriteDown]

110. If I came home and my girlfriend had savagely killed my dog...

I may call for the same thing or take matters into my own hands. Especially initially. (of course this will NEVER happen)

[Donnachaidh]

111. but you also don't have ceremonial execution swords in your home either, do you?

Again, full information is not out regarding both of them. I wouldn't pass judgment on her until I know what sort of wanker HE is.

[WriteDown]

112. Actually....

I have boken in my home on the walls. They are a tad safer though.

[Heidi]

84. My heart breaks for that woman and all who love her. The baby's father isn't helping.

I know he's grieving, but I don't understand the mindset of people are so quick to prescribe the death penalty for the mentally ill.

[WriteDown]

88. Considering he's schizophrenic himself...

I'd take what he says with a grain of salt.

[Heidi]

91. He's receiving treatment, so I have no reason to believe his bloodlust is informed by his illness.

Mental illness does not automatically impair a person's ability to weigh situations and make judgments, and if a person with mental illness is being treated, I have no reason to believe his/her opinions are shaped by the illness. (I strongly oppose the death penalty, so I think Buccholz is wrong -- but my believing he's wrong has nothing to do with his mental illness.)

[WriteDown]

102. Schizophrenia is a weird disease...

Treatment isn't always 100% effective. Sometimes it can go into complete remission. Other times there are still periodic episodes. Sometimes the effectiveness of the meds depends on other stressors in daily life, previous drug abuse, etc. My girlfriend is an LPC so I hear this stuff all day long. :)

[EFerrari]

117. My cousin is fine and as high functioning as anyone for years at a time.

He can also take a great deal of stress for long periods of time. Until he can't.

[Donnachaidh]

97. I'd really like to know what sort of schitzophrenia HE has.

That might explain his bloodlust.

[Pharlo]

93. So, the father knew the mother was

schizophrenic (even if he was told recently), knew she wasn't taking any meds for it, knew quite a bit about the disease since he suffered from it himself, knew the mother had been seeing someone for post partum depression, and LEFT the child with her.

As far as I'm concerned, if he, at a minimum, did not notify child protective services, his ass should be in lockup as an accomplice.

[slackmaster]

98. This is a horrible, tragic case but that headline sounds like it came from The Onion

I'm thinking maybe she carved a Thanksgiving turkey with a bit too much enthusiasm, or laughed hysterically while preparing whirled peas.

[rocktivity]

114. The father knocked up someone who he KNEW had schizophrenia

and was not taking her post-partum depression meds, then left her alone with the baby AND samurai swords? What were the odds of his child ending up dead? He ought to named as an accomplice before the fact.

:eyes:
rocktivity

[EFerrari]

116. He's schizophrenic, too.

:(

[rebecca_herman]

118. obviously she wasn't there, mentally

Sounds like she was absolutely, insane at the time this happened, this article contains some more details on her mental state: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090729/ap_on_re_us/us_baby_decapitated;_ylt=Am7aMduA6WIFGxJ_LQWXUDes0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTJnNnYwcDl1BGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMDkwNzI5L3VzX2JhYnlfZGVjYXBpdGF0ZWQEcG9zAzUEc2VjA3luX21vc3RfcG9wdWxhcgRzbGsDbW9tb2ZkZWNhcGl0

the sister never should have given her back the baby that night :( many people failed this woman and that poor sweet baby who I hope is in a better place now.