Obama Hawaii born, insist Isle officials

[LeighAnn]

Source: Honolulu Advertiser

In an attempt to quash persistent rumors that President Obama was not born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961, Hawaii's health director reiterated this afternoon that she has personally seen Obama's birth certificate in the Health Department's archives.

"I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawai'i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai'i State Department of Health verifying Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai'i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago...."

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A congressional resolution introduced by Hawaii Rep. Neil Abercrombie commemorating the 50th anniversary of Island statehood was postponed today apparently because of a "whereas" clause noting Obama's Hawaii birthplace.

The line "Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961;" has been construed by some who believe Obama is not a U.S.-born citizen as a thinly veiled attempt to get Congress to affirm Obama's U.S. citizenship.

<snip>

Abercrombie's office had already issued a statement today announcing the House's unanimous approval of Abercrombie's resolution when Minnesota Republican Congresswoman Michele Bachmann rose today to object to the vote, saying there was not a quorum present.


Read more: http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090727/BREAKING01/90727082/Obama+Hawaii+born++insist+Isle+officials

[Windy]

1. Our county is such an embarrassment in so many ways... how sad that Hawaii felt they had to do this

It still won't shut the nuts up!

[stumprancher]

18. Why doesn't the Present just release

Why doesn't the Present just release the long form of his birth certificate naming the doctor, hospital etc?
That would make the nutty birthers all look like the fools that they are.

[struggle4progress]

21. That wouldn't silence the fools: they're resistant to all logic. One has birth announcements

for Obama from various newspapers; one has his years of service in the Illinois legislature and in Congress, as well as the fact that the State Department issued him a passport -- all of which require US citizenship; one has the testimony of Republican Hawaiian officials that the birth certificate is genuine

Anyone who wants to believe, that Klingons beamed him to earth when he was six, is welcome to that crackpot opinion

[sledgehammer]

22. Well, if he gives into this...

...then it just emboldens the nutjobs. Then the next thing the birthers will demand is his school records. Because they also claim that he applied as a foreign citizen to get scholarships. Then his passports and travel records. And it will just go on.

Obama has released a Certificate of Live Birth, which is good enough for any job requiring you to show proof of citizenship (e.g. govt job). If that can't satisfy the nutjobs, then nothing will. But in addition to this, the govt of Hawaii (led by a repug governor) has twice confirmed the authenticity of the records. And there is a birth announcement for Obama in a Hawaii newspaper.

So let the birthers scream and shout. I'm impressed with how Obama is ignoring this entire hoopla. Gibbs was great in his press conference today when asked about the birthers.

In fact, letting the birthers scream and shout is great. It just makes the entire right-wing look even more stupid. It's certainly entertaining me.

[dalaigh lllama]

24. because when hawaii digitalized their records, they don't include that info anymore

Besides, do you really think knowing the doctor's name would convince them when evidently the offical certificate from Hawaii, the Republican governor of Hawaii, etc. etc., have not?

And the nutty birthers already look like fools -- nothing more is needed.

[msanthrope]

46. We know the doctor's name. Snopes listed it.

It's Rodney T. West. He died in February, at age 98.

[kestrel91316]

36. Why are you yapping about a "long form" birth record that NO LONGER

EXISTS??? Hawaii digitized all their vital records many years ago and shredded all original PAPER.

You already look like a fool, you and your girfer friends.

Get the hell off DU.

[24601]

48. But there are conflicting reports. Lou Dobbs reported that all

of Hawaii's old birth old records had been destroyed back in 2001; however, the below is from from YAHOO News, the source URL is: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090728/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_birth_certificate

"I ... have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen," Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said in a brief statement. "I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago."

Also from the article: "State law bars the release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest."

One wonders just how Dr. Fukino could have seen the original if it was destroyed in 2001, when President Obama was an unknown from Illinois. Highly improbable that the Doc just happened to be going through the files prior to shredding and remembered Obama's. If it's true, then intuition says it was recent.

[sabrina 1]

40. Catering to the loonie fringe of any society is

a mistake. They should have been ignored from the beginning. And, giving them a title 'birthers' is also a mistake imho. They should be called what they are, the loonie fringe of the radical rightwing.

They are not interested in where Obama was born, they are angry that a black man made it to the WH. So no amount of evidence would satisfy this kind of nutcase.

Otoh, it is beneficial to Democrats to let them rant on as they are contributing to the further decline of the Republican Party especially since some Republicans thought this might be an issue, regardless of its veracity, that they could cling to. They also are helping to paint the Republican Party as racist. They don't have much else. The rest of the world just laughs at their antics.

However, it is scary to learn that these people exist in this country. I hope the FBI is keeping an eye on them.

[No Elephants]

41. The"nutty birthers" need no help looking like the fools they are. Mission accomplished!

[msanthrope]

45. The "long form" no longer exists. n/t

[scheming daemons]

47. He released a completely legal document that proves his birthplace... troll

buhbye

[Xipe Totec]

2. Haiku for today

Son of Hawaii
rises in the Capitol,
shines in the White House.

[KamaAina]

7. There is actually a town on Maui called Haiku!

Ha'iku, actually: three syllables, but still...

[havocmom]

3. Won't do any good. No amount of facts will dissuade insane racist wingers from their delusions.

They just make up shit to support what they want to believe to be true.

If all the rock strata and fossilized bones of long gone thunder lizards can't make them consider even the possibilitythat the writers of the Bible might have just been guessing on a few details....

[goclark]

9. They is "no there there" in their heads

It was no secret all during the campaign that Obama was born in Hawaii. They had plenty of time to beat this horse.

IMO, it has finally dawned on them that they are not in power and there is no little helper for them in the WHITE House.

Sloooooow

So now they start with their little issue ~ please wake me when it's over.

[No Elephants]

42. In fainess, the insanity started during the primaries. It was all over that No Quarter website,

the one that pretended to be for Hillary, the one that was also squeezing every drop it could out of the nonexistent "whitey" tape, the one that claimed to be against Obama only because it was so pro-Dem and, according to No Quarter, there was no way a black man was going to win the General Election. You know. The stealth racist, stealth con website that was wrong about EVERYthing.

[Doctor_J]

4. I got an e-mail from a birther yesterday on the subject. I replied that

I feel he (the sender) is likely mentally ill for believing such things, and should seek treatment of some sort. The next family get-together should be great fun.

[pjt7]

5. I like this issue.

It makes it crystal clear, who should be disregarded in adult political discussions.

[ck4829]

6. It's very clear that Chiyome Fukino and the entire House is part of the conspiracy

Right, birthers?

[KamaAina]

8. "Barrack"?

Did Dr. Fukino dunce out, or the reporter?

Also note that Dr. Fukino, who is, after all, a repuke political appointee, went out of her way to say "Hussein". :eyes:

[CANDO]

10. Isn't it amazing!

These fucking freaks on the right can have the "liberal" media spotlighting their every pet issue.

[Algorem]

11. I don't know.I never seen nobody named Bayrak on that there Haywaii 5-O on my tv.

[MannyGoldstein]

12. The Birthers Are SERIOUSLY Insane - This Won't Do Anything

Anyone hear the discussion about the birthers on NPR's On Point today? The birthers calling in were seriously crazy - even way more crazy than the right wing nuts on the panel (Michael Medved and Ben Smith) who were even calling the birthers crazy.

I've never heard such insanity before in my life, and I've haven't heard the host (Tom Ashbrook) get angry at people since Lanny Davis was on about two years ago (Lanny is a serious psycho too).

I shudder to think of what might happen if the Dems blow themselves up and this Sarah Palin wing of the Republicans happen to take over. God help us.

[Stephanie]

14. Was Crazy Eileen on?

I really hope she gets her own show on Fox.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6158907

[Cha]

13. "Insist"?..the facts speak for

themselves..and it's not rumors if they're lies.

The stupids aren't allowed to changes the facts.

[griloco]

15. i'm sorry, Obama believers, but you are wrong

the constitution in article II clearly states
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;

okay, smart guys, was Obama a natural born Citizen when the constitution was adopted on
september 17, 1787? huh? well, was he?
no. no he wasn't. he needs to be replaced
with someone who was. john mccain.

[Turborama]

23. OK dimwit, here's the answer to your ridiculous question

"okay, smart guys, was Obama a natural born Citizen when the constitution was adopted on
september 17, 1787? huh? well, was he?"

No, because he wasn't alive then. He was born in 1961, 174 years after 1787! Trying to be smart isn't your forte, is it.

http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/">Where's Your Evidence?

[targetpractice]

25. Sheez... griloco was making a joke...

A clever one at that... mocking strict constructionists and John McCain's age.

Maybe the satire slipped by you, but name calling is not a great way to welcome new posters.

[Turborama]

27. Oops!

During the election I came across several birthers who actually think/write like this, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if they were being series.

ETA
I just re-read the last line again and finally got it, sorry for being so slow, it's late and I react strongly when I come across birthers and went off on one after reading the first part - I had a lot of to-ing a fro-ing about this last year with some real dimwits. It's very rare that I call anyone names, I apologize for my instinctive reaction and retract the insult, on reflection it was quite a clever comment actually.

[targetpractice]

28. The punchline was that John McCain was alive in 1787!

Get it?

Are you making assumptions about their intent because they are a new poster? Profiling based on post count?

[Turborama]

29. Not at all

Check my edited response.

[targetpractice]

30. It's all good! n/t

[Xithras]

35. Shame he got the TS, that was actually pretty funny!

Damn near dumped my coffee in my keyboard.

The real hilarity is that the Freepers probably WOULDN'T get it if he'd posted it over there.

[targetpractice]

37. What's "TS" mean?

Are they no longer a user?

[Xithras]

38. Tombstone

He was flagged as a disruptor and banned from the site. I really hope it wasn't for this comment.

[griloco]

44. yo, see how bright your wit is

when it's buried under a tombstone.

[targetpractice]

26. Hah!... Welcome to DU! n/t

[janx]

34. That didn't take long...

;-)

[krabigirl]

43. ,

[The Sushi Bandit]

16. Obama Hawaii born, insist Isle officials

Source: Honolulu Advertiser

"I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawai'i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai'i State Department of Health verifying Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai'i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago...."


Read more: http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090727/BREAKING01/90727082/Obama+Hawaii+born++insist+Isle+officials

[The Sushi Bandit]

17. Obama Hawaii born, insist Isle officials

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[RufusTFirefly]

19. Make no mistake: This has nothing to do with birth records. It's racism plain and simple

The bigots are positively insane with rage and resentment. This phony issue is an attempt to prevent their heads from exploding.

[billythekid]

20. Enough, he was born in Honolulu!!

I am so sick of hearing this. Just go away and shut up already.

[Vinca]

31. Well, clearly Dr. Fukino is part of the plot to get a "furiner" elected president.

:rofl:

[callous taoboy]

32. Instead of health care bill, more of the sos...

[JCMach1]

33. Yeah, but that's obviously not the original intent of the framers

as Hawaii wasn't an original state

EXTREME :sarcasm:

[cslinger59]

39. Whether you love him or hate him...

I just don't understand how anybody can believe that he wasn't vetted 7 ways from Sunday. There is no way he wasn't born where he said he was born. I would more likely believe evidence to the contrary to be faked simply because of all the handlers/folks who helped put him office working overtime to make sure nothing comes up embarrassing.(all the pols. who make it this far up have had their backgrounds gone over with a fine tooth comb by both there friends and enemies)

This is just getting to the point of being stupid.