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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 05:19 AM
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Lead Birther Bill Sponsor Votes To Recognize Hawaii As Obama's Birthplace (House votes 378-0 )
Edited on Tue Jul-28-09 06:07 AM by denem
Source: Talking Points Memo

July 27, 2009, 9:00PM

The House resolution to celebrate the 50th anniversary of Hawaiian statehood -- which included language recognizing the state as President Obama's birthplace, in a none-too-subtle jab at the Birthers -- passed this evening by a 378-0 vote.

Among the Yes votes: Rep. Bill Posey (R-FL), the lead sponsor of the infamous "Birther Bill" to require presidential candidates to present their birth certificates, and who had previously said he wouldn't "swear on a stack of Bibles" that Obama is a natural-born American citizen. Several other co-sponsors of the Birther Bill also voted yes: Marsha Blackburn (R-TN), Dan Burton (R-IN), John Culberson (R-TX), Bob Goodlatte (R-VA), Randy Neugebauer (R-TX), and Ted Poe (R-TX).

On a side note, some suspicions were raised against Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) for blocking the passage of the resolution by voice vote earlier today, noting the absence of a quorum. However, as Salon reported, Bachmann's move was an entirely normal procedural motion to pave the way for a roll call vote later on -- indeed, she'd made similar motions today on other non-controversial resolutions -- and she in fact voted for the resolution when the vote was held.

Read more: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/07/lead-birther-bill-sponsor-votes-to-recognize-hawaii-as-obamas-birthplace.php



I have posted the TPM report in LBN as it is strictly factual, and newsworthy.
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 05:34 AM
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1. 378-0, but not 438-0. So, who were the 60 holdouts?
Looks like there may be as many as 60 House Reps on the side of the "birthers".
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 05:38 AM
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3. 55 not voting
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 07:32 AM
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4. Of the 55 "not voting", 35 were Democrats
including people like Bart Stupak and Maxine Waters. Some may have been out of town.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 08:30 AM
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6. Bart Stupak, C Street Democrat:
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 08:39 AM
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7. "C Street Democrat?" I would have thought that an oxymoron. Now I realize the "oxy" part is wrong.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 05:34 AM
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2. Tacit acknowledgment of the truth. I bet it hurt some.
Has he produced his long-form birth certificate for our perusal yet?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 08:57 AM
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9. I don't think so. While I think that odd, given the brouhaha, there is no reasonable
question that he was born in Hawaii.

He had dual Kenyan citizenship, but that expired. Maybe his father took the parents' copy of the long form to Kenya to establish Obama's dual citizenship to begin with and Obama does not want to flag that? Or maybe his mom lost it in all her travels? Don't know. Just guessing.
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 11:20 AM
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11. Hawaii doesn't issue a "long form"; it's a myth.

As I understand, there's nothing on the application for request of one's birth certificate from Hawaii that allows you to ask for the "long form." I know there's no such thing in my state. One Hawaii official, I remember, said it would take an act of the legislature to issue one, pretty much putting the request in perspective. My birth certificate gives the very same bits of information that Obama's Birth Certificate online had. I've never heard of a "long form" for a birth certificate before, I don't know of any situation, including joining the military and applying for a security clearance, that demands a "long form" birth certificate.

Where does one get an idea of a "long form?" It isn't a delusion of some paranoid bigot; it's a lie that gets fed to paranoid bigots. Fact is, somebody has been injecting ideas into the Birther campaign from the very beginning, and they have been injecting new lies just to keep it going and to try to give it legs.



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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 08:24 AM
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5. Birthers are not going to be happy.
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 11:26 AM
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12. Will the plug be pulled on this disinformation campaign? Hardly.

Really, I'm convinced that conservative networks and moneyed interests bribe people to get things started and keep these things going. Having read about the history of the CIA, I'm afraid the wealthy haven't forgotten the lessons they learned about "covert ops," at least as far as bribing conservative media hosts (and call it the "Voice of America" strategy). I'm now convinced that Limbaugh is not a guy with an opinion, he's a guy bribed to have opinions, and shout them as loud and as many times as he can.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 08:48 AM
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8. Good. Now the birther bill is disassociated from Obama and can proceed as
something that ensures we comply with the Constitution. In the latter function, it is probably not only a good idea, but overdue by a couple of centuries.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 10:22 AM
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10. kickster
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 03:17 PM
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13. You could build a time machine on live TV, go back with a camcorder
and have someone record his birth, bring it back and air it, and they'd still refuse believe it. There is no sense even taking the birthers seriously.
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LeftistGorilla Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 03:49 PM
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14. Man...
Don't you guys have REAL problems....

Ridiculous....
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 08:16 PM
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15. Just saw the story on Countdown with Howard Dean
and how Republicans were tried to avoid a reporter..
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