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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 12:39 PM
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Republican (Sen. Voinovich): GOP is Being Taken Over by Southerners
Source: digitaljournal

A Republican Senator explained to the Columbus Dispatch that the biggest problem for the Republicans right now are southerners. He also said the biggest problem for Barack Obama right now is Nancy Pelosi.

“We got too many Jim DeMints and Tom Coburns. It's the Southerners,” explained Ohio Republican Senator George Voinovich, who is not seeking re-election next year. He further told the Columbus Dispatch, “They get on TV and go 'errrr, errrrr…People hear them and say, 'These people, they're Southerners. The party's being taken over by Southerners. What they hell they got to do with Ohio?'”

The two Senators from Oklahoma and South Carolina have been the targets of the Democratic National Committee for the past several weeks. The DNC has released ads that show Sen. DeMint saying that defeating Pres. Obama’s health care form bill would “break” the President.
Sen. Voinovich went on further and said that Pres. Obama’s biggest problem is Nancy Pelosi. He also stated that former President Bush blew it by not listening to Voinovich’s advice of simplifying the tax code. The Senator added that individuals and businesses spend an annual amount of $240 billion to prepare their tax returns.

Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/276615
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 12:40 PM
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1. Twenty years later and he finally notices?
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 12:41 PM
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3. He's leaving as soon as his term is up. n/t
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 12:41 PM
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2. Where in the hell has he been all these years?
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 12:43 PM
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4. No shit Gosho.
n.t.
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 12:46 PM
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5. Of course. It's their accents and not their nutty ideas.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 03:42 PM
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26. LOLOL!
Yankee that I am, I love the Southern accent and many of the lovely Southern ways. Other Southern things, not so much.
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 04:14 PM
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33. You'll have to excuse him...this George isn't the sharpest tool in the shed, either
:eyes:
I'll be glad when he joins DeWine in the "ex" club!
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 12:47 PM
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6. Why is Nancy Pelosi "Obama's biggest problem"?
What the hell does he MEAN by that?

I really don't know....

:crazy:
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Sub Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 01:01 PM
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11. Have you not been paying attention to her actions over the past 5 years?
She's a DINO. Period. End of discussion.

I only hope she gets voted out of office and a real progressive gets elected. I'm not holding my breath.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 01:08 PM
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13. Why would that bother Voinovitch? He's a pug! n/t
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 01:34 PM
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17. She's too damn rich
rich incumbents just don't lose...

damn it...

San Francisco deserves better, MUCH BETTER.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 02:42 PM
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24. Are you confusing her with Feinstein?
I haven't seen Pelosi's tax returns, but
Feinstein has some explaining to do....
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 12:55 AM
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42. Pelosi is the 9th richest person in the house
Edited on Thu Jul-30-09 01:00 AM by ProudDad
The other 426 are poorer...

http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/CIDsummary.php?CID=N00007360&year=2005


On Edit: and Feinstein is an obscenity.

She's been a rich tool of the corporate capitalist fucks since she lucked into the job of Mayor of S.F. (which she NEVER could have been elected to) when her buddy Dan White blew away a REAL liberal mayor, George Muscone and a real hero Harvey Milk on that dark day in November 1978...

"It was generally believed that Feinstein, having twice lost election to the office of mayor would support Kopp against Moscone in the 1979 election and retire rather than run for the Board again."

Again, history is changed for the worse, as it was when the bullet bounced off of ronny ray-gun's cold, hard "heart"!

DAMN!
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 02:21 PM
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21. She was a vocal and active member of the Progressive Caucus...
before becoming Speaker of the House.

I think she has one of the toughest jobs
in the world.

That she is reviled by liberals AND republicans
alike tells me that she must be doing something
right.

Herding cats....

Although I AM pissed at the "off the table"
mindset.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 03:45 PM
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27. She's not any more of a DINO than anyone else in Congress, with a couple of exceptions.
And Obama is not exactly a wild eyed liberal himself. Besides, I doubt the Republican Senator's issue with Nancy is that she is too Republican-ish.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 04:27 PM
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34. Listen to AM radio for a day.
Everything they can't pin on Obama they pin on Pelosi. Hell, I got emails from RWers bitching about her as soon as she became speaker.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 12:49 PM
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7. Hey Sen. Voinovich, you know why?
All your Yankee Republicans are operating in stealth mode within the Democratic Party.

You think you could take them back?

Please?
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Scairp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 04:36 PM
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35. Ohioans are Yankees now?
Is this the Civil War definition, because I've run into just as many rednecks in that state as I have in Kentucky. More really.
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 12:49 PM
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8. Reminds me of a Mystery Science Theater 300 episode
When they were mocking a short film on "Truck Farming."

Film Narrator: Here in southern Texas, there's another kind of problem.
Crow: Texans!

TlalocW
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 01:50 PM
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19. "Here, the vegetables are washed thoroughly under high pressure." - Narrator
"They're made flavorless, so people will buy steak!" - Crow

One of the best MST shorts ever.

mikey_the_rat
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 12:55 PM
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9. It's not even all southerners
The ones who have taken over the GOP are old, white, male and Protestant. This is a diminishing demographic.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 02:17 PM
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20. They are not all Protestant.
Sam Brownback and David (family values)Vitter among others are Roman Catholic.
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 04:50 PM
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36. Good point
When I think of Catholics in the GOP, I tend to think of the northeast, and identify the southern GOP with white evangelicals. That's a bit too broad.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 04:55 PM
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38. Brownshirt (or is it Throwback?) was converted to Catholicism by an Opus Dei priest
Edited on Tue Jul-28-09 04:55 PM by KamaAina
the secretive, fascist Catholic sect.

As for Vitter, It is hardly surprising that a Senator from La. would be Catholic; the southern part of the state, roughly south of I-10, is heavily Catholic.

edit: Diaper Dave
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corpseratemedia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 01:00 PM
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10. knock knock
who's there?
1983 - it has your revelation, Mr. Voinovich



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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 01:05 PM
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12. "What the hell do they got to do with Ohio?"
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 02:43 PM
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25. Maybe he could ask Mike Connell.
Oh, wait. Mike Connell is dead, and so is America.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 01:11 PM
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14. So Palin and her supporters are... southerners by proxy?
Or they have no power in the party? What utter shite.

Their problem is idiots, not southerners.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 03:52 PM
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28. Sarah and Tawd proudly consider themselves rednecks. They tried to name their
corporation redneck in French, but mangled it, just like Sarah mangles the dead fish quote--and most other things. And Tawd is a secessionist.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 03:56 PM
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29. Redneck is not a synonym for stupid.
There were rednecks for Obama, there are democratic rednecks... this term doesn't have one set definition.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 01:25 PM
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15. I think rednecks is more accurate. They are in Every state, but mostly in the South.
Edited on Tue Jul-28-09 01:27 PM by onehandle
Lots in parts of the West and of course out in Alaska.

Racist, gun loving, barely literate rednecks.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 03:59 PM
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31. "Redneck" is not just a synonym for stupid.
I know it's often used that way, but the word does not have one set definition.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 04:54 PM
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37. Yeah, I've known some pretty smart rednecks here in Georgia.
The dumb ones? They are much more likely to be Republicans.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 01:28 PM
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16. 45 years and counting.
Edited on Tue Jul-28-09 01:29 PM by RUMMYisFROSTED
Wasn't he paying attention?

:shrug:
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 01:36 PM
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18. Seeds were planted in 1964.
The Rockefellers and Fords and Nixons have long since faded, to be replaced by a fascist/Dixiecrat coalition. Not that the previous Republicans were much better. At least there is more polarization ideologically between the two parties now - that's a good thing.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 03:59 PM
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30. In 1964, Democrats were a lot more liberal than they are today, and the cons have gone further to
the right. In other words, IMO, the whole shebang has moved right. The only real polarization that I can see is on the wedge issues of GLBT rights, abortion and mixing of church and state. And, as far as I can see, those issues are moving right, too, except for GLBT rights.

On GLBT rights, the states seem to be ruling. Congress and Obama combined cannot seem to get their act together on DADT, even with the country being desperately short of troops.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 05:34 PM
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39. In the aggregate, Democrats were to the right in 1964.
The house and senate were full of reactionary and racist Dixiecrats who were promoting the war in Vietnam and against civil rights legislation. There were other Lieberman-like formations with the likes of Scoop Jackson.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 02:36 PM
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22. Fuck Mr. "There will be no public option" and the polluted lake he sailed in on.
Voinovich was a Bewsh rubber stamp most of his career (along with that other twatster Mike DeWine, who thankfully is no longer a Senator) and acts like he's a kindly right-leaning moderate.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 04:01 PM
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32. Ya wanna ease up on the sexism? Bad men are twatsters now? I bet you think brave women
Edited on Tue Jul-28-09 04:03 PM by No Elephants
have balls, too.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 07:52 PM
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40. OK, here's where I tell you you're a complete stranger, and I really don't have to listen to you.
:shrug:
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 02:39 PM
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23. The bane of the nation since its founding
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 09:37 AM
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41. And the winner of the Rip Van Winkle Award is... (drumroll)
(he looks a lot like Ron Paul)



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