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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 11:17 PM
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US enlists citizens in anti-terrorism strategy
Source: AFP

NEW YORK — A top US domestic security chief announced Wednesday a strategy to make ordinary citizens the first line of defense against an increasingly multi-faceted terrorist threat.

"For too long, we've treated the public as a liability to be protected rather than an asset in our nation's collective security," Janet Napolitano, secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, said in a speech in New York.

"This approach, unfortunately, has allowed confusion, anxiety and fear to linger."

Napolitano, who also announced an extra 78 million dollars in anti-terrorism funding for 15 mass transit systems nationwide, said modern communications had increased the sophistication of threats since the September 11, 2001 attacks.

Read more: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5j0iDP29v8HayIawDmx2FGNbla3Jw
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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 11:26 PM
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1. This must be more of that U-bama changiness thingy
Napolitano even called on children to join an effort previously shouldered by police and other security services.

"There's actually an important role we can play in educating even our very young about watching for, and knowing what to do, if you're in an airport and you see a package left with no one around," she said.

However, she stressed she was not advocating "a culture of spying on one another."

She insisted that President Barack Obama's administration was committed to repairing the erosion of civil liberties that took place under his predecessor, George W. Bush.


I guess if she proclaims this isn't the same thing the bush cabal's "TIPS" program, then it's OK! Let's all become spies and inform on our neighbors!
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 11:55 PM
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2. The minute Men worked so well for her in Arizona, get them all over. n/t
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 05:57 PM
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12. She's a straight-up LIAR with that "repairing" comment. HE LET CRIMINALS WALK!
NT!

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Amos Moses Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 01:18 AM
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3. Let me guess, we're supposed to "remain vigilant".
DANGER LURKS!
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 05:54 AM
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4. Join The Night Watch!
Edited on Thu Jul-30-09 05:56 AM by Ian David


One Step away from Nightwatch

So I was a big fan of the science fiction TV series Babylon 5. It was created by and for fans of written science fiction, and it didn't shy from social and political criticism.

One continuing plot involved the rise of authoritarianism in "EarthGov". Securitiy guards as well as ordinary citizens were recruited by an organization called "Nightwatch". In order to ensure the "security" of humanity, Nightwatch encouraged its members to report any suspicious activities of their fellow citizens. They'd put up posters saying things like "TRAITORS CAN'T HIDE". And so forth.

I watched this stuff back in the mid-90s... I remember thinking, "It never hurts to repeat these warnings against totalitarianism... After all, my parents went through a lot of these types of things. But still.. This seems a bit heavy-handed and unnecessary in our modern democracy. I can't really imagine this sort of thing happening again any time soon. After all, we've learned our lesson from McCarthyism and all that."

Ha!

<snip>

More:
http://subjunctive.net/klog/2003/09/middle_class_familie/
Posted on September 11, 2003



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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 03:43 PM
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9. correct link
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 05:47 PM
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10. thanks. n/t
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 07:59 PM
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15. Stalin's block surveillance committees
Under the pretext of spying to protect us from terrorism, it will soon evolve into another spying on Americans engaged in First Amendment activities.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 07:22 AM
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5. I suppose you do realise
Edited on Thu Jul-30-09 07:23 AM by dipsydoodle
that is more or less how the Gestapo functioned - watch your neighbours and report any signs of mental disorders , being gay, either looking Jewish or showing sympathy towards Jews..................

Apparently it was a popular secondary occupation with most librarians.

Watch your backs !

edit - missed a comma out.....doh.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 09:00 AM
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6. Ooo! Godwin's law in 5!
:D
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 09:20 AM
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7. Indeed
but it is however an exact historic comparison of how things happen almost without notice.
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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 03:39 PM
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8. reminds me of STASI
The MfS infiltrated almost every aspect of GDR life. In the mid-1980s, a network of IMs began growing in both German states; by the time East Germany collapsed in 1989, the MfS employed 91,015 employees and 173,081 informants.<20> About one of every 63 East Germans collaborated with the MfS – one of the most extensive police infiltrations of a society in history. In 2007 an article in BBC stated that "Some calculations have concluded that in East Germany there was one informer to every seven citizens."<21> Additionally, MfS agents infiltrated and undermined West Germany's government and spy agencies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stasi
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 05:49 PM
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11. Not only the Gestapo. The KGB, too. Children turned in their parents.
Edited on Thu Jul-30-09 05:51 PM by No Elephants
That is what I thought of as soon as I started reading the OP. Then I saw the line about even children having a role.

*Shudder*
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:51 PM
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24. Ah yes, Pavlik Morozov, the Child Hero of the Soviet Union!
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 05:59 PM
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13. "Change"
NT!

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Tim01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:12 PM
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20. Eh, not so much. nt
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chrisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 07:56 PM
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14. This is a stupid idea.
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ShamelessHussy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 08:03 PM
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16. TIA: The gestapo like program, resurected?
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:52 PM
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25. It was only bad when Bush did it.
Now that our guy is doing it, it's OK.
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ShamelessHussy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 08:04 PM
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17. delete
Edited on Thu Jul-30-09 08:05 PM by ShamelessHussy
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 08:24 PM
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18. "Oh, their spying was bad, but ours will be much nicer and done correctly."
Edited on Thu Jul-30-09 08:24 PM by TheWatcher
Yes, they really DO Think you are THAT Stupid.

I don't NEED this Criminal Government to keep me safe.

I'm more interested in WHAT is going to keep me safe from THEM.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:37 PM
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23. Unlike Cheney, Obama will use KY Jelly for our dose of BOHICA
The real problem and threat here is the huge national security infrastructure that has been growing since day one of the Cold War, which we started.

The American people will have to seize their own government and clean house from top to bottom if we are to restore the Republic our Founding Fathers envisioned.
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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 04:19 AM
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26. I'm surprised it was unreced a couple of times
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Tim01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-31-09 06:42 AM
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27. Yeah, that's kind of odd.
Do you suppose it was people so loyal to Obaba they don't want to hear this kind of thing? That's the only reason I can think of.
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Tim01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:11 PM
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19. It's for the good of the fatherland.
I really was very hopeful that the Bush-corp big brother citizen control type crap would not increase under Obamas administration.
Silly me.
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The abyss Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:31 PM
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21. I am impressed!
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 11:36 PM
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22. I can't wait.
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