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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 07:13 PM
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Former President Clinton Headed Home from N. Korea with Journalists
Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 07:13 PM by Hissyspit
Source: ABC News

Former President Clinton Headed Home from North Korea with Journalists
Clinton Spokesman Says Former President Homebound, with Ling and Lee Onboard
By MARTHA RADDATZ and JOOHEE CHO
Aug. 4, 2009

Former President Bill Clinton ended his surprise trip to North Korea today, bringing home the two Asian-American journalists who had been jailed in the secretive nation, after he helped negotiate their pardons.

After meeting with Bill Clinton, Kim Jong Il lifts the 12-year labor sentence. Clinton spokesman Matt McKenna verified Tuesday evening that Clinton "has safely left North Korea with Laura Ling and Euna Lee" and was "en route to Los Angeles where Laura and Euna will be reunited with their families."

North Korea's leader Kim Jong-Il today ordered the release of jailed U.S. journalists Laura Ling and Euna Lee through "a special pardon," the country's state-run news agency reported Tuesday.

North Korea's Central News Agency said Clinton took a surprise trip to the country to negotiate Ling and Lee's release apologized for the two female journalists "illegally crossing the border and committing a grave crime against our nation." Ling and Lee's families said in a joint statement they are "overjoyed by the news of their pardon."

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/International/story?id=8245688&page=1
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 07:14 PM
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1. I can hardly wait for the spin about how getting these people freed is a bad thing for America. nt
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 07:19 PM
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4. Oh, it's already started. Failure on Hillary's part, bargaining w/ terrorists, etc. blah, blah
blah
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 07:21 PM
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5. See, no waiting. nt
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Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 07:36 PM
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9. It's a matter of principle
Do a lot of people hold fast to the "can't bargain with terrorists" thing because it's a matter of "principle"? What if there's more than once principle at stake? Or is that too nuanced for those people?

Great news, and great job Presidents Obama and Clinton.
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 08:10 PM
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16. I hear this makes Obama look weak to the rest of the world, LOL
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 08:14 PM
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17. Yep, "Fuck the prisoners, this is all about how we look to the world!"
Assholes.
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alstephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 07:15 PM
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2. Great news. Good work, Bill.
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Chemisse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 07:19 PM
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3. Excellent news - yah for Bill Clinton
And Al Gore deserves some credit for bringing this to Clinton's attention. There must be two incredibly happy families tonight.
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 07:21 PM
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6. Thank you Bill Clinton (and Al Gore) nt
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Aslanspal Donating Member (303 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 07:23 PM
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7. Woo Hoo! good news...we just counter spin back
We got the MOJO...time to spin it back to the naysayers until their head explodes.

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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 07:31 PM
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8. If the Repugs were in power what would they have done?
Most likely nothing because they do not have the guts to deal with countries they don't like or add into the Axis of evil...

Bravo President Clinton for a job well done!!

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 08:18 PM
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18. Nothing. Jesse Jackson would have had to get up his creaky old ass and do it.
Like he used to back in the day.....
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Red1 Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 07:39 PM
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10. Its a Good Thing!!
Wad da go Bill!!! MY man...never doubted your sincerity, the need to help...
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 07:56 PM
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11. Analysis: Clinton to North Korea -- a matter of respect (Kerry coordinated deal)
This episode featured the Democrats showing how diplomacy works.




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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 08:46 PM
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23. Kerry has made extraordinarilly good use of his SFRC chair
susccessfully acting as a diplomat in Syria, the Gaza strip, Sudan, and China - and now, we hear with North Korea. This is in addition to having held the most interesting, deep, well planned hearings I have heard of in the SFRC since Fullbright (who had a brilliant 27 year old vet testify).
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 07:57 PM
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12. The right man for the job.
Thank you, President Clinton!

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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 08:04 PM
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13. My wife says that Japanese news reported that they were treated as guests, not prisoners.
I'm sure we'll hear from them soon and see it it was true.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 08:19 PM
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19. The P3 crew that wound up in Chinese hands got the same treatment.
Here's how you know you are a prisoner, and not a guest:


You Cannot LEAVE.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 08:21 PM
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20. Yes, of course they were prisoners, but they weren't tortured like America does to their prisoners.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 08:25 PM
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21. Oh Jesus. How many North Korean prisoners do we have in jail for crossing our borders?
Just stop. It's stupid and lacks equivalence.

If you want to play that game, KJI 'starves' his prisoners and works them to death. LITERALLY. To death. And uses their carcasses as fertilizer.

:eyes:
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 04:22 AM
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30. BBC News implies that too
The senior US administration official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, also said the two reporters were in "very good health" and that the North Korean government had agreed in advance that Mr Clinton's mission would not touch on the question of its nuclear programme. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8184698.stm
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 08:07 PM
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14. When was the last time Hillary celebrated Bill coming home with a couple women? n/t
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troubledamerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:44 PM
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24. Gonna hear that one on Late Night, but you said it first. Bravo.
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 08:08 PM
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15. and John Podesta , "who was also involved in the planning" ... gotta give props there too
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 08:35 PM
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22. Great news. Tag team of Hillary and Bill. Props to them both.
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 12:30 AM
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25. Imagine how bush/cheney would have handled this
it boggles my mind, the difference
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residentfan Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 01:03 AM
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26. I started crying
...when I saw the photographs of the journalists getting on the plane. Damn, President Clinton, you did it! I'm sure the hate mongers and fringies will throw their hate at you, but you deserve all the love and respect we can give you.
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NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 01:09 AM
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27. Holy Shit I'm Amazed
I've been following this, but I wasn't sure he could pull it off.

Good going to the entire Obama / Clinton team!

This is how the Democrats do it, you stupid fucked-up repuke Neanderthal slimeball pieces of shit.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:24 AM
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28. Don't mince words like that
They are turds, floating in a toilet bowl of Diarrhea (The Chimp, Cheney and their ilk)

:-) :-)
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 04:20 AM
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29. BBC News link with video
Former US President Bill Clinton has left North Korea with two US reporters whose release he has helped to secure.

His spokesman said they were flying to Los Angeles where the journalists would be reunited with their families.

North Korean leader Kim Jong-il issued a special pardon to the journalists after meeting Mr Clinton on Tuesday.

Laura Ling and Euna Lee had been found guilty of entering illegally in March. Mr Clinton offered no apology for the reporters' conduct, a US official said.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8184698.stm
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harry_pothead Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 06:34 AM
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31. President Obama sent the right ex-president for the job.
Can anyone imagine Daddy Bush or Lesser Bush being able to pull this off?
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