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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 01:53 PM
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Fed Officials More Confident Recession is Ending
Source: CNBC/AP

With the economy on the mend, Federal Reserve policymakers last month felt comfortable slowing the pace of one of its economic revival programs and not changing any others, according to documents released Wednesday.

Minutes of the central bank's closed door deliberations, held Aug. 11-12, also showed Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke and his colleagues striking a much more hopeful note about the economy's prospects compared with an assessment made in late June. Many Fed officials saw "smaller downside risks," the documents stated.

Fed officials expected the pace of the recovery to "pick up" in 2010, but there was a range of views — and considerable uncertainty — about the likely strength of the upturn because of concerns about how consumers will behave.

After being pounded by the recession, consumer spending finally appeared to be leveling out, the housing market was firming and manufacturing was stabilizing, the Fed said. Plus, the outlook for other countries' economies improved, auguring well for the sale of U.S. exports.

Read more: http://www.cnbc.com/id/32658495
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 01:58 PM
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1. They are trying too hard to see the end
And it could easily come back to bite them on the ass if they continue claiming improvement while the average American doesnt see any improvement in their daily life.

Doesnt anybody remember the lesson from Marie Antoinette?

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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 01:58 PM
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2. Streamers and confetti are ready nt.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 02:02 PM
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3. Oh, what utter crap.
What are they talking about? Full CEO employment?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 02:03 PM
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4. In other words, the bankers are still on top, no new regulations
have been enacted to trouble them, and the rich can go back to watching their numbers get bigger instead of smaller.

Such is the myopia of the Fed.

I think they're wrong. Unless the systemic problems are fixed, we'll continue to have bubbles and busts and the economy will continue to worsen.
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vinylsolution Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 05:43 PM
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11. This is nothing more than the rich....
.... re-inflating their own bubble.

Here we go again....





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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 02:04 PM
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5. they have their heads up their ass
LOOK AROUND, FUCKERS - ask the PEOPLE how they're doing
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Don Caballero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 02:07 PM
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6. Not all stimulus funds have been used
We must remember that not all funds from the stimulus have been utilized. The green shoots are coming more frequently than in the last couple of months. I am seeing more and more people smiling and looking hopeful than before.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 02:22 PM
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7. Things are looking more optimistic from my perspective here in the trenches.
And I am heartened by that, because we also were the first to feel the slump, long before it was officially acknowledged.

My clients, almost to a person, are less frightened, and most are actually cautiously optimistic, AND HAPPY WITH OBAMA'S APPROACH.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 02:30 PM
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8. Looks like Fed Officials surfed MSNBC this morning
"Productivity Gains" don't necessarily spell "recovery"...maybe in the eyes of the Fed:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6446961&mesg_id=6446961
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tclambert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 03:10 PM
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9. The problem is when the recession ends, the recovery just begins
and recovery can take a long, long time. Technically, to economists, the recession ends when we hit bottom. The second half of the "misery," the rise back up to where we started from, isn't technically part of what they call the recession. Just everybody else calls it that.
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biermeister Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 03:59 PM
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10. www.auditthefed.com- sign the petition! nt
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DollyM Donating Member (837 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 05:53 PM
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12. when we are able to find jobs, I will believe the recession is ending!
My husband lost his job one year ago in October, I lost mine one year ago in November. Unemployment ended in June, my 81 year old mother is supporting us and we are living hand to mouth. My husband was at least getting interview last year, but nothing since January. We still send out resumes but we are competing with so many other people it is just nuts out there. I feel like starved animals jumping on any meat carcass we can find and still coming up empty handed. Oh yeah, we have Masters degrees and can't find jobs on any end of the the job spectrum. We are also 48 and 56 which also makes us pretty much unemployable. Too young to retire but too old to get a job it seems. What great system we have here.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 06:15 PM
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13. total bullshit -- tell it to the MILLIONS of unemployed.
Oh wait - THEY don't exist. They've been disappeared... :grr:
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 07:17 PM
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14. You are trying to destroy this "recovery". The whole idea of bubble economics is that everyone
has to believe that things are looking up. More confidence, stronger bubble.

The unemployed should just put their money in the stock market or on roulette wheel number 22. And dont forget, the disadvantaged always have the lotto. What more can they hope for.

Actual jobs are soo last decade.

I appologize for feeling like I have to do this but for those that need it: :sarcasm: Jeez
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DueDiligence Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 08:02 PM
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15. Okay, I'm going to take your advice...
Number 22 it is! Cross your fingers for me.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 10:46 PM
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17. I hope you saw the movie, "Lost in America". Great funny movie. nt
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 08:11 PM
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16. yeah, confidence doesn't pay bills or put food on the table
As we're one of those families, I really find nothing funny in your humor attempt.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 10:48 PM
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18. I was mocking the idea of recovery based on an upturn in wall street. I am on your side. nt
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 08:15 AM
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19. Employment is a lagging indicator.
Learn some macro-economics.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 08:34 AM
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20. Yes the bubble is back, those living in their cars should just be patient. nt
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 10:29 AM
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22. yeah, they can just stay the heck out of the sight of the working *economists*
After all, why should working economists give a rat's ass about people? :sarcasm:
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 10:27 AM
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21. I got your macro economics right here.
STILL means that OVER half a million breathing HUMAN BEINGS are out of work, on top of the MILLIONS more already THERE.

Or is it easier to digest when you don't equate the HUMAN angle to the story? Sleep better at night? :sarcasm:
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 04:05 PM
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23. You think you can wave a magic wand and make everything better?
Edited on Thu Sep-03-09 04:06 PM by Odin2005
Magic wands are not going to help get those HUMAN BEINGS get jobs. Turning around the disaster that was the dominance for 30 years of Neo-Classical economics is not something that can be fixed overnight. The end of the recession is only the START of the recovery, that's why it's called a RECOVERY!!!
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