SC voters surprised by Wilson's 'You lie' outburst

[villager]

Source: AP

SC voters surprised by Wilson's 'You lie' outburst



By SEANNA ADCOX, Associated Press Writer

WEST COLUMBIA, S.C. – Rep. Joe Wilson is known as a mild-mannered congressman fond of making short speeches. His shortest got the most attention. "You lie!" Wilson blurted out during President Barack Obama's health care address to a joint session Wednesday night, an outburst that made some supporters shudder even as others believed it could give Wilson a political boost in his conservative hometown.

"He's the only one who has guts in that whole place. He'll get re-elected in a landslide," said John Roper, an insurance agent, as he sat among patrons at a diner near Columbia.

Still, Southern sensibilities reign in the district Wilson has represented for the past eight years. Added Roper, "He probably shouldn't have said it in that context."

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Note the comments about getting "re-elected in a landslide" and "Southern sensibilities..."

[graywarrior]

1. Mild-mannerd hatemonger.

[saigon68]

31. "Southern sensibilities..." = "Traditional Racist Attitudes"

Seen it-- It still exists

[mitchum]

2. Rednecks, crackers and peckerwoods

[Old Vet]

18. Say What...................

cracker??????

[No Elephants]

30. "Cracker" is the only one of those three that you question?

[FrenchieCat]

3. And of course nothing about the fact that Wilson lied in calling the Pres a liar.

[primavera]

25. Actually, I was rather impressed by his sincerity

I tend to operate on the assumption that you can always tell when a Republican is lying because their lips are moving. All of their public comments sound like carefully scripted sound bites, always plugging away at the same, tired, catch phrases to malign their opponents, always using the same, empty phrases to bolster themselves; they follow the RNC's communications playbook so predictably. And I understand this. I took strategic communications courses in grad school and worked in the DC policy community long enough to understand that this is, regrettably, how our system works. And it makes perfect sense that, if you were beholden to corporate special interests who had made trillions by screwing the sick in this country, you probably would want to divert attention away from the fact that you wanted to perpetuate that altogether vile status quo, so of course you're going to spin doctor as much as you possibly can. So I tend to just ignore whatever Republicans say, because I perceive them to just be regurgitating standard, canned, form propaganda which even they don't really believe. How could they? Surely - I imagined - no one is stupid enough to actually believe such infantile, paranoid delusions. But an outraged outburst during the middle of a presidential address doesn't strike me as being a calculated bit of strategic propaganda. Which leads me to conclude that Joe Wilson isn't just spin doctoring to cover his ass - he really does believe this drivel. That's something that had quite frankly never occurred to me. I'm stunned. As a country, we must be even more primitive than I ever dreamed, which is saying a lot, since I thought we were pretty primitive to start out with. But this is a new low. I mean, you would have to have the mind of a three year old to find this stuff credible, yet this guy somehow found his way into public office. It simply boggles the mind. We evidently haven't evolved anywhere near as far past our tree-dwelling ancestors as I had hoped.

[provis99]

26. no, he was completely insincere.

He admits he got a copy of the speech text before it was presented, so he knew precisely when to prepare to yell "You lie" to impress his health insurance bosses and his cracker constituents.

[Delphinus]

27. He also has said

the only reason he called to apologize is that he received instructions from the Republican leadership to do so.

[No Elephants]

28. So, both his original outburst and his apology for it were totally faked.

[polichick]

4. It'll make him a hero to bigots everywhere, not just in the South...

In this context, I think "Southern sensibilities" refers to manners.

[No Elephants]

29. What in the blue sky is Southern about manners?

[NeoConsSuck]

5. More surprised than

Sanford's escapades in Argentina?

C'mon, you voted both in. Your state is the laughingstock of the country.

[Dappleganger]

15. +1

[peace13]

6. Mr. Roper wouldn't have lasted ten minutes with * shoved up his ass like we had.

It kills me that for eight years the Dems sat and followed the rules while we were lied into war, had our Constitution shredded and the treasury robbed without one person publicly humiliating the evil bastard. Are there rules on the floor of the chamber...if so then follow them and punish those who do not comply. If you don't want the job Mr. Wilson, go home and let someone else do it!

[Kali]

10. to be fair

the dipshit embarrassed himself enough, nevermind the fact that you couldn't understand what he was saying anyway due to all of his malapropisms so it was hard to know when to jump in with a "you lie!"

[peace13]

14. To be fair? WTF

I am tired of having every rule and law in this country broken by pasty white men while the rest of us walk on eggshells. To be fair, the guy is an ass wipe in a position to make laws for you and me. It was clear by the look on Obama's face that all was not cool with him either...to be fair.

[Kali]

16. oh yeah this is not the lounge

I was being sarcastic. calm down.

[Taverner]

7. OK SC DU'ers - make the mf EAT those words

landslide...

[chollybocker]

8. "...said John Roper, an insurance agent,..."

Hmph. Go figure. :shrug:

[AlbertCat]

9. Notice that he still has to show how the Prez lied.

[Arugula Latte]

11. Florida must be happy ...

These nutball politicians in S.C. are shifting the center of crazy northward by one state, it seems.

;)

[daleo]

12. Bush lied the U.S. into two wars

I don't suppose this fellow ever objected, though.

[No Elephants]

32. 3 Wars-Afghanistan, Iraq and the War on Terra, meaning the war on whomever Bush wanted to

spy on, detain, torture, etc., wherever found, including within the U.S. The WOT is probably at least as costly (in $$, anyway)as the oher two wars.

[Kingofalldems]

13. Vulgar pigboy (Limbaugh) upset he apologized

[AlbertCat]

19. Of course! Apologizing for anything, even stupidity is a weakness to Repugs.

[Ian David]

17. "Someone had to put the colored boy in his place," is what they're all thinking. n/t

[totodeinhere]

20. Heckler’s District Mostly Supports the Outburst

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/11/us/politics/11wilson.html?hpw

[Cha]

23. And, this is how much his opponent in the 2010 Race, Rob Miller,

has raked in since the lying outburst.

Supporters: 17,789

CASH: $647,802

http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/19079

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8641717

[Cha]

21. Maybe the fact that President Obama wasn't lying and graves

wilson was lying should factor into it ..you brainwashed rope a dope.

[jmm]

22. Mild mannered? Don't they know who they keep electing?

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitol-briefing/2009/09/joe_wilsons_outbursts_and_apol.html?hpid=topnews

Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) on Thursday said his outburst before a joint session of Congress was "spontaneous."

That may well be the case -- but this wasn't his first public quarrel. According to a September 2002 report in The Washington Post (via The Plum Line), Wilson engaged in a heated debate on C-SPAN with Rep. Bob Filner (D-Calif.), in which he accused Filner of having a "visceral hatred" of America:

.....

And in 2003, Wilson, who got his start in politics as aide to Sen. Strom Thurmond (R-S.C.), angrily objected to Thurmond's daughter Essie Mae Washington-Williams coming forward after he died, calling the revelation "unseemly."

"It's a smear on the image that has as a person of high integrity who has been so loyal to the people of South Carolina," he said, South Carolina's The State newspaper reported at the time.

Following public outcry, Wilson stepped back from his remarks, saying, "I have the utmost respect for Essie Mae Washington-Williams and wish her and the Thurmond family all the best."

[classysassy]

24. Another gamecock

Addison, you are not fit to serve,you mild mannered bigots are causing so much harm to our country.You and your supporters will rue the night,you opened your foul pie hole.