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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 05:28 PM
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FBI Informant Says Agents Missed Chance to Stop 9/11 Ringleader Mohammed Atta
Edited on Thu Sep-10-09 05:28 PM by RamboLiberal
Source: ABC News

On the eve of the eight year anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, an FBI informant who infiltrated alleged terrorist cells in the U.S. tells ABC News the FBI missed a chance to stop the al Qaeda plot because they focused more on undercover stings than on the man who would later become known as 9/11 ringleader Mohammed Atta.

In an exclusive interview to be broadcast tonight on ABC World News with Charles Gibson and Nightline, former undercover operative Elie Assaad says he spotted and became suspicious of Atta in early 2001, when he was sent by the FBI to infiltrate a small mosque outside Miami. Atta was there with Adnan Shukrujuman, an al Qaeda fugitive who now has a $5 million U.S. reward on his head.

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According to Assaad, Shukrujumah, whose father ran the mosque, invited the undercover FBI operative to meet him at his home, but the FBI told him to stay away. Instead, Assad says the agency assigned him to set up and sting what he calls wannabe terrorists, ending any hope of infiltrating the real al Qaeda terrorists.

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Assaad, who posed as "Mohammed" – a personal representative of Osama bin Laden, says he's a "million percent positive" the 9/11 attacks could have been stopped if the FBI had gone after Atta and Shukrujumah. But because Atta and his men were suspicious of the FBI undercover operative, and secretive, Assaad says his FBI agent handlers sent him after the easier target – two wannabe terrorists whose cases were easy to crack and who were both eventually convicted and sent to prison.

"I was right, I was a hundred percent right," Assaad says of his suspicions. He says that when he learned that Atta was one of the 9/11 hijackers, when the FBI asked if he could identify any of the attackers, he was "very upset, angry" and cried.




Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Whistleblowers/911-ringleader-mohammed-atta-stopped-fbi-informant/story?id=8540605
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 05:31 PM
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1. I haven't trusted them to do their jobs since 11/ 22/63
When I was 6.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 05:33 PM
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3. uh, well, they were doing someone else's job on that day...
n/t
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 05:31 PM
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2. Drip ... Drip ... Drip.
Count me as shocked. :eyes:
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 08:13 PM
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4. The MSM is covering Mohammed Atta?!
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troubledamerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 11:21 PM
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7. Daniel Hopsicker's more fond of this story:
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 08:19 PM
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5. It's interesting that this whistleblower feels safe enough to talk, and that ABC,
a corpo/fascist 'news' monopoly, would cover it. Beware of taking this at face value. The first question that occurred to me is, who in the CIA (who is feeding ABC News) is out to get someone in the FBI, or possibly to cover trails that the CIA knows about, or was involved in, between the Bush Junta and 9/11, by blaming the FBI? I am not questioning the whistleblower (I simply don't know enough to judge him); I am questioning why the lying bastards at ABC News are giving him air time and helping promulgate this story.

Mohammed Atta was leaving a highly visible trail, and one can only think that he was too stupid to have pulled off this awesome attack--so big were the "breadcrumbs" that he was leaving along the way--or that he was leaving the trail on purpose--i.e., those were his instructions. It is not so surprising that Elie Assaad noticed him; it is far more surprising how many didn't notice him. Assad's experience--the brief glimpses of it we get here--doesn't really address all the agencies and personnel who should have noticed Mohammed Atta. He points to one--the one he knows. But that is likely just one little piece of the puzzle. If ABC had any real interest in this story, of course--that is, 9/11--they would have been on it a long time ago, and would have raised all the questions that the rest of us have raised about the highly dubious--in fact, egregiously dubious--official tale. I don't think we need to ask why they haven't. They are war profiteers and corpo/fascists like the rest of the corpo/fascist media. They thrive on bloodshed and looting. But it is worthwhile--and necessary--to ask, why the sudden interest? and why this? And I really don't think the answer is that they are trueheart journalists who are helping a whistleblower and trying to inform the public. They do psyops and disinformation. They don't do journalism. And they don't give a fuck about informing the public.
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troubledamerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 11:20 PM
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6. ABC = Modified Limited Hangout. An intelligence community term, meaning
a limited confession of some true facts with a major misleading fact or two meant to close that case.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_hangout

The disinfo here is NOT about Atta.

The disinfo here is "FBI missed a chance".

Mueller is a mole. Just ask Coleen Rowley.

Here is the actual story you are not meant to ask about:

BUSH HALTS INQUIRY OF BOSTON FBI OFFICE*
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/1214-01.htm

*Boston office, notably, where Mueller once worked. Boston, notably, the site of Logan Airport, departure point for the FBI-connected hijackers.

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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 09:38 AM
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8. Good Point! I didn't catch that--the framing that they "missed" a chance.
As with Coleen Rowley, there were red flags all over the landscape that were similarly "missed" (i.e., deliberately ignored?).

The article is from Dec 2001. It cites an incident I didn't know about--Puke Dan Burton saying the following to an Assistant AG: ''We've got a dictatorial president and a Justice Department that does not want Congress involved. ... Your guy's acting like he's king.'' He threatens a "Constitutional confrontation," and says that Bush Jr. (despite his high approval rating at that moment) can be replaced.

Tough words from a Puke! I imagine he was quite avid to investigate corruption in Boston--but not likely for purposes of exposing which Bush Pukes did 9/11. In other words, it's hard to believe that Burton was doing anything but posturing. But the shutdown of investigation into the Boston FBI, by Bush "executive privilege," is the interesting point.

I've always wondered about Mueller. He was appointed that summer (2001), amidst a high profile investigation of the FBI by the House Intelligence Committee, of which Gary Condit was a member and privy to many secrets. I never understood what that investigation was about. (Louis Freeh was head of the FBI at the time.) But it was the other big news story of summer 2001. I was following the Chandra Levy story, because I suspected that Cheney was involved (still do). Condit met with Cheney on the very day of Levy's disappearance, and during her very disappearance hours--but neither Cheney nor his aides were ever questioned about that meeting--neither by the FBI/DC police nor any news organization--according to Cheney aides, in a planted Newsweek story, three months later. Condit's schedule for May 1, 2001--the day Levy disappeared--had become public knowledge in June. The Newsweek article was in August. Condit, head of the "Blue Dog" Democrats, voted for Bush/Cheney's first tax cut for the rich--a very close and controversial vote--on May 3, 2001--three days after his meeting with Cheney during Levy's disappearance.

Mueller was appointed head of the FBI in late August, as I recall, just before 9/11. I don't know what was "wrong" with the FBI, that it was being investigated (by the likes of Gary Condit!) But I was still under the illusion that the FBI was more or less independent of the political administration, and I remember vaguely hoping that Mueller--whom I presumed was brought in for his "clean," straight-arrow image or reputation--might get to the bottom of the Levy disappearance, cuz Freeh's FBI was doing a very bad job of it. It didn't occur to me then, but it does now, that Freeh's FBI was being seriously interfered with, by Cheney--not only on the Levy investigation, but perhaps also using lesser forms of corruption to get rid of people who, though corrupt (say Boston mob connections) would never go along with 9/11. Cheney had dossiers on everybody (he was the ultimate Mobster). He no doubt had one on Gary Condit and his mistresses at that meeting on May 1. Guess; Cheney's main purpose was to disable any FBI agent or operation that might interfere with the 9/11 plan. He already had moles at work, even before Mueller was appointed. One of them--or one group--got rid of John O'Neil, the top FBI agent who was following the Al Q money trail in Yemen, and got mysteriously purged from the FBI just before 9/11. (Don't know how important this is, but O'Neil then went to work in private security at the WTC, the week of 9/11, and died in the attack. Did he suspect something? Was he trying to prevent it?) Another mole or group of moles stopped Rowley from getting into Moussaoui's computer in a timely fashion. Cheney's second purpose was to take over the FBI for future vital coverups and additional operations, but in summer 2001, he had the more immediate purpose of foiling any honest investigations that might prevent 9/11. ???

James Comey painted a favorable picture of Mueller in his story about Ashcroft in his sickbed, and Gonzalez trying to get the drugged up, sick Ashcroft to sign off on the domestic spying program--their (Comey, Mueller) rushing through the night to prevent it, etc. I wonder what that was really all about. (If Mueller is a 9/11 operative, why would he side with Comey is such a battle? Cover? Internal battle among Juntaists? And, is the story true?)

One other thing: wasn't Freeh still in charge when Coleen Rowley's FISA request was denied? If Cheney was purging the FBI (using Condit as his operative on the House Intelligence Committee), and was first getting his moles in place (for 9/11), just prior to appointing Mueller, maybe Freeh had no control over FISA warrants at that point. There must have been a lot of tumult in the FBI that summer.

I know a lot of bits and pieces about 9/11, but have no clear picture of how so many US government national security systems got disabled for that event. (I mean, NORAD couldn't even protect the Pentagon? Didn't even try to? That had to have involved Rumsfeld moles in NORAD and the AF. Meanwhile, jihadists were running freely around the country getting airplane flying lessons and lapdances? FBI? CIA? Immigration? NSA? The fact is they were disabled, but how, exactly, and by whom? How many were involved, knowingly?)

I don't understand the event as a whole. But here's a "bit and piece" I picked up along the way. If Coleen Rowley had gotten into Moussaoui's computer, one thing she would have found in there was Nick Berg's email account and password. Fast forward to May 2004: Nick Berg was the private telecommunications contractor who got beheaded in the famous video, that was used to stoke up hate for the attack on Fallujah, and to counter the bad publicity of the release of Abu Ghraib torture photos. Back to summer 2001: How did Nick Berg's email account and password get into Moussaoui's computer? According to Nick's father--in a news account I read--after 9/11 (circa spring 2002), when Moussaoui's computer was finally opened, the FBI had interrogated Nick (Nick told his father) about that very thing. Nick (according to his father) had told the FBI that he met Moussaoui on a bus going to a college class; Moussaoui, a stranger (and an Arab) had asked Nick if he could use his laptop, and Nick (an orthodox Jew) consented. And the FBI was content with this story and went away. Then, after the invasion of Iraq, Nick Berg (though you'd think he would've been red-flagged by his email account in a 9/11 hijacker's computer) was permitted into Iraq, where the story is that he was seeking telecommunications work. In spring 2004, he was arrested by US forces, and kept incognito for several weeks, while his frantic parents petitioned Donald Rumsfeld to release him. He was then released onto the street in the middle of the Fallujah uprising and was kidnapped by Al Q and beheaded on camera (if true).

This story sticks in my mind and continues to amaze me. How likely is it that an Orthodox Jew would meet a strange Arab on a bus and let him use his computer? How likely is it that the FBI would swallow that story, and then that the Pentagon would let Berg into Iraq--a contractor with a direct connection to 9/11? I have no idea if Nick was telling his father the truth, nor what parts of this story might be true or false. But it is one of those things that just baffles me, that there has been no followup--neither in the 'news' nor in any official investigation that I know of. The malfeasance all along the line is astonishing--and not believable. I could believe in some instances of incompetence. Humans are human, after all. But the list of "incompetences" that you have to believe in, to swallow the official 9/11 story, could circle the earth. And I just don't believe that that many highly-trained U.S. government and military professionals are that incompetent.

And to think that Van Jones just got fired from his job at the EPA for questioning this 9/11 bullshit! I guess rational people can't hope to serve in government any more.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 11:31 AM
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9. That's a valuable recap. Here's some additional info.
Edited on Fri Sep-11-09 11:47 AM by leveymg
I believe that after Freed resigned earlier in the Summer, the Associate FBI Director served as Interim Director until Mueller came on board.

When you post things that aren't widely known, such as the Berg-Moussaoui password connection, you probably should link to a reliable source. I had to do some digging to find it, but this is from CBS: http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=617380n , June 9, 2004 (see video on this page, "Strange Twist In Berg Case Investigations into the execution of American Nick Berg show his killer was a top al Qaeda operative, and reveal a past link to 9/11 suspect Zaccarias Moussaoui, David Martin reports.")


A CIA official said Thursday that U.S. intelligence officials have concluded that terrorist leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was, in "high probability," the person shown on a video beheading American Nicholas Berg, based on an analysis of the voice on the video.

The speaker on the video, now believed to be al-Zarqawi, reads a lengthy statement criticizing Islamic scholars and taunting the crusaders. Standing alongside four other militants wearing headscarves and masks to disguise themselves, al-Zarqawi then kills Berg.

Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, told reporters Thursday in Baghdad that it appears al-Zarqawi was responsible. The U.S. military has already posted a $10 million reward for Zarqawi for having orchestrated some of the deadliest terrorist attacks in Iraq.

Initially, Berg's murder seemed to be a case of an eccentric young American who was in the wrong place at the worst possible time -- just as the revelations of American mistreatment of iraqi prisoners were coming to light.

But CBS News National Security Correspondent David Martin reports on what is turning into a bizarre mystery with a connection to 9/11.

U.S. officials say the FBI questioned Berg in 2002 after a computer password Berg used in college turned up in the possession of Zaccarias Moussaoui, the al Qaeda operative arrested shortly before 9/11 for his suspicious activity at a flight school in Minnesota.

The bureau had already dismissed the connection between Berg and Moussaoui as nothing more than a college student who had been careless about protecting his password.

But in the wake of Berg's gruesome murder, it becomes a stranger than fiction coincidence -- an American who inadvertently gave away his computer password to one notorious al Qaeda operative is later murdered by another notorious al Qaeda operative.


I have two possible takes on Berg: 1) "art students" or 2) the "Caucasian American", an apparent skinhead, who bought a ticket for one of the 9/11 hijackers at a kiosk at the the University of OK where Berg worked at the time. See this fascinating DU thread from long ago (Google):

Nick E. Berg as the Oklahoma Kid. - Democratic Underground8 posts - 7 authors - Last post: May 16, 2004
would be such a hotbed for terrorist activity? Funny how those art students keep popping up. Seems that Berg was living a double life? ...
www.democraticunderground.com/.../duboard.php?az...all... - Cached - Similar -


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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 11:42 PM
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10. The DU url is not working. I'd sure like to read it. Missed it at the time. nt
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 01:28 AM
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11. According to German weekly newspaper Die Zeit...

The security division of the Tinker Air Force Base in Oklahoma City blew the cover of the Israeli agents who were trailing the hijackers.

"Die Zeit has learned that a few weeks before the attacks, Israeli intelligence gave US authorities a list with names of suspects who were staying in the US for the purpose of preparing attacks. Apparently not until shortly before September 11 did the CIA recognize that al-Midhar was dangerous and asked law enforcement agencies to look for him."

They also reported...

"The Mossad also had its sights on Atta's accomplice Khalid al-Midhar, with whom the CIA was also familiar, but allowed to run free. The Mossad apparently warned their American counterparts several times about the terrorists, especially about al-Midhar. The American government later admitted that they had received such warnings prior to September 11."
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 04:31 AM
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12. Not entirely convinced the Art Students Ring was all some have cracked it up to be
Here’s the Die Zeit Report: http://www.usefulwork.com/shark/mossad911.html

However, I am not convinced that the Art Students Ring was all it’s been cracked up to be. Read this by a blogger who does a pretty thorough job of debunking the Die Zeit article and Justin Raimondo’s interpretation that Mossad was somehow involved in the 9/11 attack:


http://www.snappingturtle.net/flit/archives/2002_10.html
October 07, 2002
THE ART STUDENT STORY RESURFACES,
THE ART STUDENT STORY RESURFACES, AGAIN

Two estimable blog owners, Charles Johnston and the Shark himself, have been gulled by a German Die Zeit piece Sharkansky has had translated here. It's basically a retelling of the leaked DEA memo about an Israeli fraud ring involving fake "art students" that was working in the U.S. in early 2001. The full memo's here. This was previously used by Justin Raimondo of antiwar.com and others to prove their wild-assed theories about Israeli involvement in the Sept. 11 attacks. The Shark is now citing it as evidence that the Mossad at least knew, and hence U.S. intelligence probably did as well, about Mohammed Atta and friends. This is somewhat more sane, but given the quality of the evidence, hardly compelling. Here's a few of the obvious problems with the Die Zeit piece:
Die ZEIT obtained the 61-page final report, according to which, 120 Israelis, organized into cells of four to six persons, formed a tightly organized and efficient espionage network.

The memo never concludes that the art student ring was definitely an espionage network. That's Die Zeit talking. The memo lists 125 names in an appendix at the back... not all are "art students." The memo says they were actually organized in groups of 8-10, not 4-6.
The Israelis were arrested, interrogated and subsequently deported.

Many Israelis without proper documents were deported following Sept. 11. There is no public evidence how many, if any of those students previously identified as part of the "art ring" were among them, even if they were still in the country at that time. Few, if any, were arrested or deported for their activities prior to Sept. 11, and certainly none for "espionage."

Both lived in Hamburg before they settled in Hollywood, Florida in order to plan the attacks.

Atta and Al-Shehi lived in Hollywood, Florida for a little over one month in all, arriving in early May, 2001 and leaving on June 13. That's not "settling," and the planning of the attacks was obviously well underway by that point.

A Mossad team was also operating in the same town. The leader, Hanan Serfati, had rented several dwellings. "One of Serfati's apartments was located on the corner of 71st St. and 21st Ave. in Hollywood, right near the apartment of Atta and al-Shehi.", French intelligence reported later.

There is no 71st St. and 21st Avenue intersection in Hollywood, to start with. As you can read below, the DEA picked up a group of Israelis for questioning on March 1, 2001, including Hanane Sarfati, 24 (also referred to as Hanan Serfaty in the DEA memo; the French report has yet another spelling), Eli Cohen, 23, and Oshirt Zaguri, 23. Cohen and Zaguri gave their addresses as apartments 207 and 4205 respectively in the building at 701 S. 21st Street. Apparently French intelligence has trouble understanding American address nomenclature. Anyway, two and a half months later, on May 13, Atta and Al-Shehi moved into their own rented apartment at 1818 Jackson Street, a half mile south west of the place Cohen and Zaguri had been staying at. (They apparently picked the place after a couple nights at the Bimini Motel Apartments, several kilometres east). There is no evidence the two pairs of Mediterranean tourists were ever renting their respective apartments at the same time: obviously spying on Atta when Atta was actually IN TOWN would have been too easy for these highly trained Mossad SpyKids (23? Come on...), so they decided to do their spying months before he even ARRIVED.

The chief Israeli agent was staying right near the post office where the terrorists had a mailbox.

This was the piece of info that got Justin Raimondo convinced the Israelis were behind Sept. 11. For the record, four of the terrorists who arrived in June used the Mailbox Rentals store at 3389 Sheridan, in Hollywood, as their address while in the U.S. Mr. Sarfati (or whatever) was living in an apartment at 4220 Sheridan, about half a mile west, when the DEA picked him up in March.
Here once again, is the story of how that "tightly organized and efficient Mossad team" was fingered and picked up by the brilliant police work of the DEA, according to the DEA's own report. Note the particularly clever spylike behaviour bolded below. It can be hard to fathom the complex workings of these superspies, who were in this country cleverly disguised as stupid petty criminals. I know it would be easy to conclude from the paragraphs below that these were really a bunch of kids working a simple con game, who then turned scared and witless after they were picked up by the cops, but you have to realize that's all part of their cunning, secret-squirrel plan, the details of which only a supergenius of Justin Raimondo's calibre could derive from the raw field report details below. If it helps, try humming the "Mission Impossible" theme in your head while you read it:

"76. On March 1, 2001, at approximately 3:00 p.m., SA Kevin McLaughlin of theTampa DO responded to a knock at one of the fifth floor office doors. (It should be noted that the Tampa DO occupies the fourth and fifth floors of a First Union bank Office building. The reception area is on the fourth floor, with the fifth floor doors being locked, and possessing no signs of identification.) At the door was a young female who immediately identified herself as an Israeli art student who had beautiful art to sell. She was carrying a crudely made portfolio of canvas, matted, but unframed pictures... When asked her name, she identified herself as Bella POLLCSON, and pointed out one of the paintings was signed by that name. She then changed her story and said that the paintings were not for sale, but that she was there to promote an art show in Sarasota, FL, and asked for the agents' business cards so that information regarding the show could be mailed to them. She was not able to say when, or where the show would take place. After this discrepancy, the agents began to question her more closely, and her responses were evasive at best. When asked whom she was with, she stated that she was dropped at this office building by her Team Leader, who knew everything and could answer more questions. The Team Leader was described as a male driving a red van, dropping off this female, with another four females and a male.

"77. Tampa DO agents then began searching the area around the Tampa DO office and found the individuals described by the young female. Two of the girls were on a street corner near another busy office complex area and as agents were speaking with them, the red van pulled up. All were escorted to the Tampa DO for questioning.

"78. Agents from the Tampa DO then interviewed each of the subjects. Through identification that was produced, it wat revealed that the female who approached the Tampa DO and identified hersclf as Bella POLLCSON, was now identified as Inbal VAKSHI. The other subjects were: Sussie OSHRA, Keren KUZNITZ, Keren MATATIA, Livnat SELLA, Eli COHEN, Oshirt ZAGURI, Rachel KENDEL, and Hanan SERFATY. SERFATY, the driver of the red van, was identified as the Team Leader. All of the subjects gave ambiguous answers to the agents, but keeping to the story that they were Israeli art students.

79, VAKSHI produced an Israeli identification card, an Israeli passport, a student identification card, and a Florida driver's license for Sarah Minna SASSOON. VAKSI stated that she had received the license from a friend of hers who was no longer living in Florida.

"80. S/A David Keikin interviewed subject Hanan SERFATY. SERFATY stated that he served in the Israeli military between the ages of 18-21. He further indicated that he arrived in the U.S. approximately one year ago at the age of 23. When questioned as to what he did between the ages of 21 and 24, he refused to answer. The interviewing agent indicated that SERFATY's command of the English language was excellent, even the utilization of slang words. SERFATY indicated that he resides in Hollywood, FL, with a phone number of (954) 478-1006. He further related that he purchases the paintings from an Anglo male, TOM for $8.00-$15.00/piece, In turn, each piece of artwork is subsequently sold for $50-80. TOM allegedly resides in Hollywood/Ft. Lauderdale area, and reportedly has a storage unit in south Florida where he keeps the artwork to be picked up.

"81. It should be noted that in SERFATY's possession were deposit and withdrawal slips for Washington Mutual Bank account #038300002297689, dating, from December 19, 2000 through February 21, 2001. The fifty-one (51) slips were for transactions at various banks in Dade and Broward County, FL, banks, specifically in Coral Gables, Miami, Hollywood, Aventura, and Tamarac, The deposits for the timeframe totaled $93,252,00, with withdrawals totaling $86,000. Also in SERFATY's possession were four (4) deposit slips for First Union Bank account #1010017986436, from February 26, 2001 through March 1, 2001, totaling $14,250."
The DEA memo goes on to state that checking with local police showed that this group had been canvassing parts of the Tampa-Fort Lauderdale area with their phony art for at least a week previously. As I said back in May, the DEA efficiently identified the ringleader of all these silly groups of Israeli kids (Serfaty's team was one of many, it's true) as Michael Calmanovic, a resident of Irving, TX, current phone number 972-252-4504. So if Congress or anyone else really thought this was ever worth their time (Charles? Shark?), it wouldn't be hard.

You can read more about this Israeli fraud ring, and how people have mistaken it for something else, in the Flit entries for May 15.
Posted by BruceR at 07:04 PM


FULL 60 PAGE DEA/INS REPORT AT http://cryptome.org/dea-il-spy.htm


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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 02:33 PM
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13. The Israeli agents may have served a dual purpose...
Edited on Sat Sep-12-09 02:46 PM by AntiFascist
by breaking into DEA offices could they have been interested in drug smuggling information that may have implicated the nation of Israel? They were also tracking the movements of the future hijackers AND sharing the information with US intelligence, so in this case I don't know if it necessarilly implicates them in what happened on 9-11, in fact they may have been trying to prevent it. What I found particularly telling is that Oklahoma-based air force military intelligence exposed the ring before they could make further progress against the hijackers.

On edit: also, the Die Zeit article I was quoting claimed that it got its information from French Intelligence, so it wasn't just a retelling of the DEA memo.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 08:50 PM
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14. And wasn't Atta rooming with a CIA agent in Hamburg?????
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