Owosso police look into two related murders

[MinM]

Source: Detroit Free Press

Original Story
OWOSSO — The Michigan State Police say an anti-abortion activist has been shot and killed in front of Owosso High School.

The Flint Journal reports the shooting took place around 7:30 a.m. today, and a suspect was taken into custody about 45 minutes later at the suspect’s home.
The victim’s identity has not yet been released.

Owosso schools transportation supervisor Jayne Campbell tells the newspaper the shooting happened after most students were off buses and inside the building.

School secretary Wendy Smith says the school remained in lockdown, no students were involved and all were safe with classes going on as normal. She says the shooting did not occur on school property...


Read more: http://www.freep.com/article/20090911/NEWS06/90911020/1319/Owosso-police-look-into-two-related-murders

[question everything]

1. Interesting. A Fox story refers to him as "anti-abortion"

activist

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,549260,00.html

[joeycola]

2. "The Michigan State Police say an anti-abortion activist "-so do

the state police in the AP story in the OP

[question everything]

15. I know. When I first noticed that headline I wanted to scold the OP

that they are not "pro-life" and then remember that the rules of LBN is to post the headline exactly as it appears in the story.

With the exception of quoting a headline, we, on DU, should not refer to them as "pro-life" and we should talk about "late term abortion" not the other, offensive one that they like to use.

:hi:

[SPedigrees]

8. Fox news actually got something right!

Most of these right wing fundies have no problems with the death penalty or with war. They are in no way "pro-life."

[Dr_Willie_Feelgood]

37. I have problems with the death penalty and war...

...and abortion. I get choked up at the sight of road kill. I escort insects out of my house rather than squish them. I've seen death up close and personal, and I hate it with a passion. I don't wish it on ANYONE, best friends or worst enemies.

Am -I- allowed to call myself "Pro Life"? Or is that phrase poisoned by the RW who are against abortion but for capital punishment and/or war?

[SPedigrees]

55. Yes, if these are your views, I would say you are genuinely pro-life.

And while I may not agree with you on abortion, I respect your pro-life viewpoint. I have known a few persons over the course of my lifetime who I would genuinely call pro-lifers, unlike the current crop of hypocritical right wing anti-abortionists.

[Quantess]

73. Well, of course. Go ahead and call yourself "pro-life" because you truly seem to be.

It's very refreshing to know that a few anti-abortion people like you are consistent about being all around pro-life. You are a rare gem.

The part where anti-abortion views become a problem to me, as a pro-choice woman, is when one's stated dislike of abortion becomes an imposition on women's reproductive choices. There needs to be a respect for women to make their own reproductive decisions in life, and frankly, you as a male, will never have to experience an unwanted pregnancy developing in your own body.

So, go ahead and rally for the fetus all you like, but please, show some regard and respect for women who are facing an unwanted pregnancy. And please acknowledge that you don't understand what it is like to be in her shoes.

[Hestia]

83. That's exactly what I tell men who want to "discuss" abortion - you can't get pregnant, so you have

absolutely no say so in the matter. I shut down any discussion immediately. Why enact laws against one gender? Notice that most of the activists are men. Pregnancy envy?

[lamp_shade]

3. ..

[apnu]

4. Comments at the freep are interesting.

user twabhjch wrote:

"I live in Owosso it was only a matter of time he wasen,t a saint like some people would like you to think it has nothing about quieting free speech either somebody just got feedup about his constant harasment and trying to shove stuff down people throats. He wasent even suppose to be around the school he had somany restraining orders on him that he decorated his van and drove around town all day even showed up to the dream cruise were he had to be led away for his own saftey one. Oh buy the way he was a far leftwing wacko dem supporter I never understood that."

[Dr_Willie_Feelgood]

30. Is abortion the Lithmus test?

If you are pro-choice you are Liberal, if you are anti-abortion you are Conservative, regardless of the remainder of your opinions?

[apnu]

35. I have no idea, the whole thing is confused...

... the guy, clearly was anti-choice, but this poster talks about us on the left. Weird, which is why I thought it was interesting.

I don't know anything about Litmus tests, some people do seem to use the stance on abortion as some kind of guide rule. Seems dumb to me, there are examples of conservatives, both Democratic and Republican, who are pro-choice, so as a test for ideology, abortion is not a very good one.

[paulsby]

47. most definitely no

imnsho

[uppityperson]

57. Please define what you mean by "pro-choice" in order to help me figure out what you mean

since the term can, as is, often misused or used differently by different people. Also what do you mean by "anti-abortion", for the same reasons? Thank you.

[JNelson6563]

5. I wonder what happened.

And if it had anything to do with the activism.

Julie

[comtec]

6. in trying to work up a tear

maybe in a decade or so

[Joanne98]

7. ...................

[Bozita]

9. update: 2 killings in Owosso

http://www.freep.com/article/20090911/NEWS06/90911020/1319/Owosso-police-investigating-two-murders

POSTED: 10:14 A.M. SEPT. 11, 2009
Owosso police investigating two murders
BY CHRIS CHRISTOFF
FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER

Read Comments(24) Recommend(1)PrintE-mailLetter to editorShare


Two men were shot and killed this morning in Owosso -- one a long time abortion protester shot multiple times as he stood across from Owosso High School and the other at a gravel company, according to news reports.

Police believe the shootings were related, and said a suspect was in custody.

more...

[Chef Eric]

10. Was the activist shot dead BECAUSE of his activism?

If not, then why has the newspaper identified him as an activist? Where are the DETAILS?

This is a flimsy piece of news.

[Brickbat]

19. To identify him better to their readers. It sounds like he was a fairly well-known character.

It's standard journalism.

[Joanne98]

11. I found this in the comments section.......

Posted by aiibis on 09/11/09 at 10:27AM

he is a well known protester in this town. he is known for very nasty signs of a baby torn in half bloody with the words life on the poster this poster is about 4 foot by 4 foot in size he also has a big poster of the same image on the side of his van. many have had screaming matchs with this man as he screams " dont take a coat hanger to your vagina" and other statements outside of places like: big boy,gas stations the schools in town the court house ,planed parenthood and others


these signs are held in family places not just at places where one would seek or even have abortion on there mind so him being at the high school isnt uncommon.

http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2009/09/antiabortion_activist_shot_in.html

[uppityperson]

58. " dont take a coat hanger to your vagina" is a good reason they should be legally and hygiencially

available. That guys sounds like a real peach of a dude.

[Joanne98]

12. Apparently the antis have been terrorizing schools with their bloody pictures.

I didn't know they were allowed to terrorize the children?


Posted by eucalyptus on 09/11/09 at 10:58AM
I can relate to open2opine's post. I live in a midwest town where these types of picketers are allowed to hold up graphic, bloody signs right in front of my elementary school children's playground and school. One of my daughters has nightmares and talks about it all the time. I am all for free speech, but what about some common sense? Why traumatize small children when your target is to traumatize someone else? Why isn't there a limit to what these protesters can do? Isn't there a more civilized way to get your message across?

[demoborn47]

13. I wish the actual facts mattered, but

Either way, the right wing crazies will spin it as a retaliation. Even if was something random, the dead can't speak, so someone will make sure their activism speaks for them. Death is tragic in any form.

[question everything]

18. Pretty much (nt)

[T Wolf]

29. Explain to me how this death is anything but a good thing. One less reich-wing cretin abusing

children and others for his own sick kicks. No loss.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

32. First you call for the assassination of Mark Levin

and now you condone the murder of this man. I dont agree with his views but you are no better if you condone this. Disgusting.

[T Wolf]

48. I've heard of Levin (he's a Hannity-ite with his own show) but cannot remember

calling for his assassination. That is not to say that I would be at all upset if Levin (or Hannity) were removed from the scene.

My basic point is that being successful MUST come first. After everything is over and the enemy is gone, then we can get back to the garden. But if we abide by the Marquis of Queensbury rules in the war against the riech, the garden will be destroyed before we even get started.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

67. I very vividly remember your call for his assassination

it was rightfully scrubbed from DU but not before I read it and responded to it. Unfortunately you and your violent rhetoric is part of the problem not part of the solution. If you believe that we should resort to violence against the right wing then you are no better than they are.

[Dr_Willie_Feelgood]

33. WRONG ANSWER!!!!!!!!!

I'm sorry, your karma meter just dived into the red.

Violence begats violence. When you justify it for A, someone else justifies it for B.

THE ONLY justification is to stop the -immediate- endangering of innocent lives. Killing someone because of an opinion, regardless of how distasteful of an opinion, is, what's the word?

Oh yes - EVIL!

With your reasoning, that someone should be killed because of an opinion, then why is capital punishment wrong? 98% to 99% of the people who receive it are guilty of the most sinister, destructive acts possible. Is their life more valuable than someone you merely disagree with while finding annoying?

I'm seeing WAY TOO many people cheerleading murder on here. I always thought being a progressive was all about PROGRESS. About PEACE and TOLERANCE and seeing the betterment of the human species and the preservation of the planet we live on.

[T Wolf]

40. IN other words, to borrow an acronym - IBTL. Sorry, but the achievement of the goals

you state will not come about until those in the way are removed. From having any influence is possible, From the planet if necessary.

It is a naive (and doomed-to-lose) approach to not believe that goals do not matter - only tactics. Personally, I am sick and tired of playing fair and getting beaten at every turn.

In my opinion, it is better to achieve what we both seem to think are worthwhile goals. After the war is won, we can go back to kumbya.

You are arguing for fighting a war with no weapons while the enemy has and uses a full arsenal.

[Dr_Willie_Feelgood]

46. I wish I had flawless knowledge!

It must be nice to go through life with an assurance of one's infallibility. To know one is always correct, and capable of dispatching the lives of others without remorse.

BTW...there are some reports that, aside from his abortion stand, that he was liberal. One picture -seems- to show him with an Obama sign.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/11/michigan.shooting/index.html

So should he die for that one opinion that is contrary to the majority DU opinion, even if the rest fit in here?

(Not that the shooting was necessarily because of his protest, but the sad sick reactions I am seeing are)

One last thing, since -I- disagree with you as well, when do you plan on killing ME? How much time do -I- have left?

[paulsby]

49. i have friends on both sides of the abortion fence

so i emphathize.

heck, i know a few pro-choice repubs for pete's sake.

it's not a litmus test

[T Wolf]

56. So. Can you tell me what values and stances YOU have that you think are wrong?

Do you not believe in what you believe in? Are they just opinions that you could easily change, on a whim?

The point is NOT whether my opinion on any issue agrees with yours.

The point is that unless we fight, using every weapon available, there will be no victory against the enemy on the other side.

You seem to be saying that the tactics (or, adhering to some moral code of what tactics are "acceptable" to you) are more important than the goal, or achieving that goal. That attitude would lead to to never defend yourself against any attack because "violence only leads to more violence."

Maybe you are enlightened and perfect enough to be a total pacifist. Me - I would rather survive an attack. And I would rather have my children survive an attack than be sacrificed on the altar of "playing fair."

[Dr_Willie_Feelgood]

70. The death of some old coot carrying a protest sign...

...does NOT rise to the level of "immediate danger". Even though his sign was stark and disturbing, is it really worse than what these high school kids can see on prime-time TV (such as CSI, NCIS)?

This man, from what I read, did not wish anyone harm. And yet, some rejoice in his death because they DISAGREE!

Fight, weapon, victory, enemy, the other side?

This is the path to peace? Not only alienate, but physically destroy, misguided but well intentioned people?

I'm sorry, but you frighten me. I'm not worried about you physically attacking me, I'm worried about you spreading your philosophy of hate and violence.

[brendan120678]

34. Yeah...because murder is so awesome!

:sarcasm:

[joeglow3]

42. I heard the SAME thing about Tiller

nfm

[Quantess]

72. How was he "abusing children"? Did I miss something?

[Kievan Rus]

74. Disgusting

How could you possibly celebrate another person's death, regardless of their views?

If you're honestly happy about this guy's death, then you're honestly no better than they (the militant anti-choicers) are.

There is no place for violence in our political discourse. The last time it happened in America, thousands upon thousands of young men were slaughtered in places named Antietam, Gettysburg and Shiloh.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

75. Your parents must be ashamed.

[Paladin]

82. You Know, Your Outrage Might Resonate Somewhat Stronger....

....if you weren't spending so much time loading up the Guns forum with threads celebrating (and "celebrating" is the right term) the shooting and killing of people by others wielding firearms. Seven such threads so far just today, and it's early......

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

84. As if murder and self defense are the same thing. Your parents should be ashamed too.

[Paladin]

85. Serena Williams Sends Her Regards....... (n/t)

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

86. At least she's not threatening me. n/t

[salin]

81. This sentiment (but from the other side) is what leads to the crazies

acting on their murderous impulses. Dehumanize the other side, and enable/empower those less grounded in sanity to believe their impulses are justified, and that indeed taking such action will not only be condoned, but applauded.

Murder is always a tragic endpoint.

[jwirr]

14. Keep us posted and find out all we can. Hopefully we have not

developed one of our own crazies - someone who thinks everything can be solved with a gun.

[T Wolf]

17. Not everything. Just some specific, individual problems. And yes, the media will spin this to

counter the assassination of Dr. Tiller.

[Joanne98]

16. Fight breaking out in the comments section. These are local people.

Posted by coolreasonin on 09/11/09 at 11:19AM
If the Lefties want to start trading volleys I say bring it on. I'd bet on the Right with all the ex-military, gun owning hunters over the Left's artistic bong owning navel gazers any day


Posted by llortamai on 09/11/09 at 11:31AM
bring it on coolreasonin. I'll shoot you with my .357 maginum Assault rifle. You fat slob living in your mothers basement with all your guns. Sure you were in the millitary. Probably Chief Toilet Mate in the Navy. Swab my deck matey


LOL

[Lone_Star_Dem]

20. I know I shouldn't have laughed

But, "Chief Toilet Mate" was pretty darn good. LOL

[Joanne98]

26. lol

[texasleo]

43. lol

[progressivebydesign]

61. idiots. The guy also shot a man he knew at a gravel pit. Odds are abortion is not the issue. n/t

[kestrel91316]

21. Are we supposed to be sad? Because I'm not.

[jwirr]

41. I expect us to be better than them.

[kestrel91316]

52. So, you think we should be forced to be sad when someone who

wishes to enslave women encounters misfortune? Good luck. My feelings are MY OWN, just like my body.

[Duke Newcombe]

44. And there's the problem, I'm afraid... n/t

[kestrel91316]

53. I will NEVER shed a single tear for anyone who wishes to enslave women.

[WriteDown]

63. So having children is enslaving women?

I'm all for abortion in the 1st trimester and even early in the 2nd, but I have many qualms after about 5 months since at that point the fetus is viable outside of the womb. I guess I am not for slavery, more like indentured servitude then.

[Dreamer Tatum]

66. +1 nt

[Kievan Rus]

76. And if you feel that way, then you're no better than they are

Premeditated murder against a defenseless person is wrong PERIOD, no matter who the victim is.

[Quantess]

71. Classy. Real classy.

[Joanne98]

22. He was a member of Operation Rescue! Jim Pouillon

Police identified the victim as Jim Pouillon, a longtime member of the anti-abortion group Operation Rescue. Pouillon was often seen carrying signs with anti-abortion slogans.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32799068/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

[Dr.Phool]

23. Retroactive abortion?

[get the red out]

24. I have a feeling

guys like him might have other screaming, violent-minded, mental-health challenged associations in life. This might be some personal dispute. Wait and see.

[MinM]

28. Re: I have a feeling

That was my first thought too.

[MinM]

87. Depression: Not Political...

Looks like our first inclinations were correct:

Family of US shooting suspect, Harlan Drake, cites depression

OWOSSO, Michigan -- Relatives of a Michigan man charged with fatally shooting two people, including a well-known local abortion protester, said in a statement that he had battled depression and was experiencing problems with his medications.

Harlan Drake's family also does not believe the killings were a political statement or acts of revenge and called him "a gentle giant, who has no history of violence and no criminal history whatsoever," according to the statement issued Monday by an attorney on behalf of Drake's wife, mother and brother.

Drake, 33, is charged with first-degree murder in the fatal shootings Friday of anti-abortion activist James Pouillon and businessman Mike Fuoss. Investigators have said Drake was angered by a graphic sign Pouillon carried while protesting near a high school and that he apparently held a "grudge" against Fuoss and a third intended victim.

"We do not feel these tragic killings were premeditated, a political statement regarding pro life or pro abortion factions, or out of a grudge," said the family's statement issued by attorney Gerry Mason of Port Huron, Michigan...

http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2009/09/family_of_us_shooting_suspect.html

[Joanne98]

25. The suspect shot two people. The other guys name was Mike Fouss

http://blogs.cbn.com/thebrodyfile/archive/2009/09/11/pro-life-activist-killed.-will-president-make-statement.aspx

[Joanne98]

27. The second guy has a website....

http://www.fuossgravel.com/inrock.htm

He was probably the shooters ex boss.

[Joanne98]

31. Owosso Township gravel pit owner identified as second homicide victim

OWOSSO TOWNSHIP, Michigan -- Mike Fuoss, 61, owner of Fuoss Gravel Pit, 777 Busha Road in Owosso Township, has been identified as the second homicide victim in Shiawassee County this morning.

Fuoss also owned Arrow Construction, an asphalt and excavating company, and started Indan Rock Subdivision and Fuoss Brothers Apartments. Fuoss graduated from Corunna High School in 1966.

In a press conference, Owosso police Chief Michael Compeau said James L. Pouillon was staging an anti-abortion protest in front of Owosso High School at 7:20 a.m. Friday when witnesses heard 4-10 shots fired from a passing vehicle, killing Pouillon.

All the shots were fired from the moving vehicle toward the opposite side of the street, away from the school, police said.

The entire school district was placed in lockdown and all after-school activites have been cancelled today out of respect for the tragedy. Parents have also been given the option to take their children home today.

A witness provided a license plate number and about an hour later, Owosso police arrested a 33-year-old Owosso man at his home.

When he was arrested, the man told police that he had been involved in another homicide in Shiawassee County today.

About 8:17 a.m., an hour after Pouillon was killed, a worker at Fuoss Gravel Pit called 911 to report that he had found the owner of the business dead in the office. Police found Mike Fuoss, 61, shot multiple times in the office.

Fuoss knew the suspected shooter, according to Shiawassee County Sheriff George Braidwood. Braidwood said it appeared he was shot at close range.

It is unknown if the suspect knew Pouillon. Police said it's too early to assign any motive to either shooting. Detectives are interviewing the suspect right now.

Police believe the shots were fired from a semi-automatic. They are unsure if it was a pistol or a long gun and are awaiting a search warrant to look for the weapon in the suspect's vehicle.

http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2009/09/owosso_township_gravel_pit_own.html

It looks like this guy was the primary target. The shooter probably decided to shoot the anti because he was there and he was an asshole.

"I'm going to jail anyway I might as well shoot this asshole too"

A rumor.

[robcon]

36. A "rumor"

""I'm going to jail anyway I might as well shoot this asshole too"

What an awful thing to report based on a rumor.

[Ozymanithrax]

38. If this were an abortion/prochoice activist, we would be...

up in arms.

Try the man, and if he is guilty, send him to prison for the maximum sentence provided by law. Violence in the pursuit of political ideals is unacceptable. We we must win with bullets instead of ballots, we are what we oppose.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

39. Thank you for your post

If we are so against the practices of the anti choice activists like the murderer of Dr. Tiller then we must find this murder to be reprehensible as well. I am embarassed to read some of the posts on here celebrating the murder of any person.

[Gwendolyn]

77. Where are you getting this "violence in the pursuit of political ideals" stuff?

If he had shot the loud-mouthed anti-abortion dude for political reasons, this Drake person would've been shouting it from his prison cell, or hospital bed, as it were. That's the whole point of political nutjob murders. You make grandiose statements, like Tiller's murderer did. This guy hasn't issued any statements saying he's pro-choice, or that he did it to save the women or the doctors.

[Crowman1979]

45. I think these shootings have nothing to do with politics.

It was probably a disgruntled employee who had a relative or friend who was raped and needed an abortion, was afraid of losing his job, and to top it this pro-life asshole was really getting on his last nerves. So it was only a matter of time before this person had enough of the world and wanted to take a few people with him.

[Ozymanithrax]

50. You could be right.

This may just be a man who lost his job and went 'Postal.' But they are being spun as political by others, especially those on the right.

[progressivebydesign]

62. And it could be that this dude had some other history with the shooter.

For all we know they used to work together and always hated each other, or he owed him money, or whatever. If he hadn't shot the other fellow, then I wouldn't be pretty sure that this was not political. But that doesn't stop the right from turning him into a martyr.

[LisaM]

51. A local gravel pit owner was murdered first. So why doesn't that lead?

No, no, it has to be the anti-abortion activist, who, from the latest article I read in the Detroit News, appears to have been an afterthought. The intended victim was the local business owner.

[TorchTheWitch]

78. No, Fouss was killed about an hour after Pouillon

The first victim was the anti-abortion activist, Pouillon. Drake then drove to the gravel company and shot Fouss about an hour later who became the second victim. Whoever the third victim was intended to be was thankfully spared as police caught up to Drake and arrested him before he could kill the third person. Police say Drake had various grudges against his chosen victims apparently none of them having anything to do with each other.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32799068/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

[alp227]

54. I'm pro-choice, but this ain't right

It is NEVER moral to murder someone for holding a disagreeable POV.

[progressivebydesign]

60. Do you think he shot the gravel pit guy over his pro-choice views? This was probably random..

OR they have other issues. the abusive sign holder did have a life outside of holding that sign and harassing women outside of clinics. They don't exist in a vaccum. For all we know he knew the gunman and there was some bad blood from something else. Why is everyone making this about choice? It's not.

[alp227]

64. Dunno about the gravel workers' view on abortion, but...

The article states:

Colbry said authorities do not believe that the two homicides and the third plot were related, saying, “They stemmed from individual grievances Drake had with the victims.”

Colbry said the grievances were not known in detail, but that the killing of Mr. Puillon was related to the latter’s anti-abortion protest. But he said, “The defendant was offended by the manner of Mr. Puillon’s message.”

and, responding to your assertion that Mr. Fuoss was pro-choice...

Fuoss’ brother-in-law, Glen Merkel...said the suspect in the shootings is the son of a former Fuoss Gravel employee, but said he did not know any reason for Fuoss’ slaying.

But I guess the pro-lifers will be making a lot of noise about Pouillon.

[progressivebydesign]

59. I think the shooting was random, since the man also shot someone he knew at a gravel pit.

But that doesn't stop the anti-choice terrorists from turning it into a martyrdom. Yeah.. described a "kind and gentle man", yet I saw pics of him screaming violently into the face of a Planned Parenthood employee, intimidating women seeking health care, and he's one of those guys that holds a pic of an aborted fetus outside of a high school... Sorry to hear that someone is dead, but let's not make this guy into a saint. He wasn't.. he was an abusive and unhinged angry white man.

[joshcryer]

69. ABC news compared it to Tiller and put them on "opposing sides."

Right after maligning CNN for reporting what they did about the Coast Guard. Pot Kettle?

[RamboLiberal]

65. Police: Shooting suspect offended by anti-abortion material

Authorities have charged an Owosso, Michigan, man with two counts of first-degree premeditated murder in the Friday shooting deaths of an anti-abortion activist and another man, a prosecutor's office said.

Authorities say the suspect, Harlan James Drake, was offended by anti-abortion material that the activist had displayed across from the school all week.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/11/michigan.shooting/

At a press conference this afternoon, officials said Pouillon was targeted by Drake because of his anti- abortion campaign are also saying that Drake had plans to kill a third person.

http://www.wlaj.com/news/police-17151-drake-owosso.html

This is just as wrong as the murder of Dr. Tiller!

[joshcryer]

68. I dunno if this was premeditated or not. He could've been angrily walking by the dead fetus signs...

...and just got pissed the fuck off 'cause it just wasn't something he wanted to see after having killed someone earlier.

[TorchTheWitch]

79. Pouillon was the FIRST victim

The gravel pit owner was killed about an hour later. The third intended victim was thankfully spared as police caught Drake before he could kill this unknown third person.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32799068/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

[depakid]

80. This is pretty in your face inflamatory material directed at high school kids

Doesn't surprise me that it pissed someone off and they lost the plot. In fact, I'm surprised we haven't seen a LOT more of this sort of thing happening to the anti-abortion crowd, considering their tactics.