Hofstra Student Could Face Criminal Charges for Rape Allegations(Video shows consent)

[WriteDown]

Source: Fox News

Hofstra University freshman Danmell Ndonye could face criminal charges after lying to police about being tied up and gang raped in a dormitory bathroom during a fraternity party.

Ndonye's allegations led to the arrest of four men whose names and pictures were widely circulated following her accusations.

Investigators said that a video of the sexual encounter shows Ndonye consenting to the sex romp. Ndonye later recanted her allegations of rape, confessing to police that she had made up the charges because she had been afraid to tell her boyfriend about the illicit bathroom encounter.

Ndonye has been suspended from school pending a disciplinary hearing, said Hofstra spokeswoman Melissa Connolly.

The spokeswoman also said that a suspension against Rondell Bedward — the only Hofstra student among the five men implicated — had been lifted....

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,552041,00.html

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I can see how her boyfriend might have a problem with it.

[imdjh]

1. You can be arrested on nothing more than an allegation? No proof at all?

Even Law And Order doesn't do that, Alexandra says, "I need some proof." Even Buford (can't remember his name right now, the congressman) says, "Bring me some proof."

[WileEcoyote]

3. Sure thing

I've met more than one unscrupulous woman who would happily point a finger in order to lock up a man. Friend of mine was charged with domestic violence by his female room mate and locked up for 72 hours.

When he got out of jail the woman had taken away all his belongings (from his apartment) during the incarceration.

[WriteDown]

5. Wow.....

just wow. They may have had REAL charges to file after that.

[madmom]

16. Not just women, men do it too. It happened to me.

[WileEcoyote]

19. Agreed,

it's just easier to point the finger at a man. A lot depends upon the IQ of the police officer who handles the call. If he goes into one of those primal "protect all women regardless" instinctive moods? Then he'd even cart Ghandi off to bloody jail...

In my own case I called the Sheriff's office because a woman friend of my house guest had stolen a firearm from me. She had removed the trigger lock and bragged about the theft to her friends.

And yet she lied to the cop accusing me of domestic violence! I was the one who got searched not her. It took some talking but eventually the cop released my property and I walked home. Not without getting a lecture about "family violence". It was all bullshit. The woman was just a junkie and a common thief.

[babythunder]

42. How did she steal your firearm?

That situation seems like a recipe for disaster some person stealing your gun and possibly using it for God knows what? No offense but it sounds like you need a better a secure place for your firearms.

[haydukelives]

8. that's only on tv

no proof needed in real life.

[UndertheOcean]

17. That is really baffling .

[imdjh]

18. One has to admit, the police are in a really bad spot.

The general public can read the Constitution over and over, but when it comes to emotional issues, the cry is "Do something! Protect me!"

[CTLawGuy]

38. you can legally be arrested

if there is probable cause (which requires evidence, but not much) that you committed a crime.

[imdjh]

46. I was just thinking this morning- everyone here cheers DNA "exoneration" but each one of those...

.... is a case where a man has been falsely accused. Folks like to put it on "the system" especially if he's a minority, or the cops, or the prosecutor, or whatever- but in the absence of DNA (which defines these old cases as old) the witness testimony has to be the biggest part of the case.

So we're cheering DNA review and release, but at the same time there are people here defending the special exceptions to constitutional protections of the accused in the name of not blaming, intimidating, impeaching, or cross examining the primary witness aka victim.

[xchrom]

2. oh. my. nt

[TheWraith]

4. Somebody unrecommended this.

Apparently, like in the Duke case, somebody's convinced that they know the truth better than the police and the facts.

[WriteDown]

6. Sad. nt

[JeanGrey]

34. But we did know the facts in the Duke case - they weren't

there. Are you trying to compare the Duke case and this? This girl claimed rape. They have a video showing consent. I would say that is enough proof to investigate, wouldn't you? Especially since the girl has recanted?

[Lance_Boyle]

7. could face? She admimtted to filing a false report

What is this "could face charges" nonsense? Is there a law on the books making it a crime to file a file report? Yes? Then FUCKING CHARGE HER WITH IT ALREADY! Meanwhile her victims better lawyer up - they need to get their civil suits rolling.

[WriteDown]

11. Makes you wonder what the DA is thinking. nt

[imdjh]

24. Same thing they all think: What's in this for me? Should I cover my ass?

[imdjh]

12. Civil suits against whom?

The woman? The police? The Court?

You punish the police for arresting and humiliating these guys and you'll be able to hear the screaming from where you sit, "This is intimidation! This will make it so women are afraid to report rape!"

Meanwhile, four college students who started life with one foot in the hole have rape allegations and mugshots permanently on the internet.

[TheWraith]

13. Only rarely do false rape complaints result in charges against the accuser.

It's one of the safest crimes to falsely report.

[snooper2]

9. A picture of three of the guys...

hope they go on to do good things and enjoy their lives...

[yowzayowzayowza]

30. Pic in your sig is behind some security:

hxxp://store.barackobama.com/v/vspfiles/photos/PO26840-2T.jpg

Its poppin up a login prompt.

[hedgehog]

10. Well, if FOX says it was a sex romp, I'm convinced.

[Codeine]

25. No, SHE said it was,

so I'm convinced. If her word was good enough to arrest and probably convict them it's good enough to let the poor bastards go.

[imdjh]

14. Which raises the question- should the rules change now because of the internet?

Should we now protect the identity of those charged with crimes because of the insidious aspect of the internet in that it never forgets and allows anyone with a connection to publish to the broadest possible audience accusations of the most harmful nature?

Thirty years ago, if Kevin Taveras had been accused of rape, and a mugshot run in the paper, it would have passed from easy public access in 24 hours, a week at most. His might be humiliated, annoyed, inconvenienced, insulted, but when he got out he could go on his way. Now that we have the internet, when Kevin goes to get a real job in a couple of years, Wendy the HR dobe at a company 1000 miles away, who has a habit of running every male applicant's name through Google to see if there are rape allegations, is going to find out that Kevin was arrested for a rape. She might decide that "it's not worth the risk".

[WriteDown]

15. Your scenario is truly frightening...

makes one wonder.

[Odin2005]

20. I don;t agree with charging her.

It could put a chilling effect on actual rape victims talking to police.

[TheWraith]

21. There has to be punishment for false accusations.

This girl attempted to ruin the lives of five men, put them in jail maybe for decades, and permanently brand them as rapists because she didn't feel like telling her boyfriend she'd cheated on him. Think about how incredibly selfish and even sociopathic that is.

[IDFbunny]

22. Charging her

will restart the practice of putting the victim on trial.

[Codeine]

26. As opposed to putting five victims on trial? nt

[DavidDvorkin]

27. She's not the victim.

[Odin2005]

31. Exactly.

There are far more rape victims that don't get justice (like my friend) because of character assassination than guys that get falsely accused of rape.

[TommyO]

35. She is not the victim here, she is the perpetrator of lies against these five men.

[Tansy_Gold]

39. She's not a victim. She's a victimizer.

And because she's lied, she's made it just a tiny bit more difficult for real rape victims to be taken seriously.


Tansy Gold

[imdjh]

23. She tried to steal 20 years of the life of each of four men and may well have already cost them....

..... opportunities that would only come along once. She presumably has nothing of value with which to compensate these men or satisfy a demand that she be punished for what she has done. That leaves jail doesn't it?

[Odin2005]

32. There are a lot more rapists that get off by attacking the victim's character than...

...there are false rape accusations. Get your priorities straight instead of regurgitating misogynist narratives that push the occasional "woman lying about rape" incidents as an excuse to legitimize assassinating the character of rape victims, like what happened to my friend.

[TommyO]

36. So, because some rapists attack their very real victim's character

we have to excuse the very real crime that this woman (allegedly) committed? We have to excuse the fact that she lied in order to cover up consensual sex with five men? We have to excuse the fact that she tried to ruin the lives of five people?

BULLSHIT!

[Madam Mossfern]

37. As a rape victim myself I strongly disagree with you.

It is precisely because of women like this who falsely accuse men of rape that true rape victims get mistreated. She should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. The police may have not believed your friend, not because of a propensity to misogyny,but because they had too many experiences of young women who cried wolf.

In my case it was a no-brainer.
Someone broke into my apt while I was in the shower.
BTW, they never caught the guy, but at least I'm alive.

[slackmaster]

41. That is totally irrelevant to this case

[imdjh]

43. That's generally what you do when you are accused of a crime.

Your lawyer tries to make the witness or victim out to be unreliable or a liar. It's not very nice, but it's the adversarial system and it should not be bypassed regardless of how much compassion we feel for the victim or accuser.

[slackmaster]

40. Failing to charge her would encourage other potential false accusers

She must be punished for her crimes.

[JonQ]

47. Couldn't that be said for charging false accusers of any crimes?

Obviously real crimes need to be reported. So wouldn't charging false accusers of any particular crime be considered a "chilling effect" on real victims talking to the police?

She tried really hard to ruin these mens lives, for fun, or to avoid getting in trouble with her boyfriend.

Had she not been videotaped, and these men had gone to jail, wouldn't that be a "chilling effect" for all those men who don't commit rape?

Hell of a message, don't commit rape, and you will be penalized anyway, and if by some amazing stroke of luck you happen to have an alibi, well she'll walk and your face will still be in the news as an alleged rapist.

Justice.

[buckrogers1965]

28. How about not reporting anyones names unless there is a conviction.

You know, then you don't have to say "alleged" anymore.

[imdjh]

45. Don't you love journalists? they really go to town with the "alleged".

I was reading one article where is said something like, "Police were still examining the alleged car ...."

No Fiona, the car is not in question. The car is wrapped around a telephone pole, there is nothing alleged about it.

[JonQ]

48. Didn't you know?

Accused rapists are all guilty.

They have to prove their innocence, and even then it's good to remain suspicious of them for the rest of their lives.

[proteus_lives]

29. She damn well should.

She tried to ruin a lot of lives.

[harry_pothead]

33. People who make false rape allegations should suffer the same penalty as for rape itself.

She should go to prison for however long each man would have served, consecutively.

EDIT - And put on the sex offender registry.

[imdjh]

44. I have to disagree with that. One person is a rapist, the other is a liar. There is a difference.

Seriously, if she falsely accused someone of murder would you give her the death penalty?

[IDFbunny]

49. What do you think is appropriate?

[imdjh]

50. I would imagine that enforcing the existing law would be a good start.

[harry_pothead]

51. In her lie she is attempting to have a man thrown in prison for years

In this case, yes. To both the rape and murder example. This isn't just any lie, it is a malicious lie with dire circumstances.