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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 09:33 AM Original message |
Obama To U.N.: I Prohibit 'Torture' By U.S. Without Exception |
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2Design (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
1. BS - still doing renditions n/t |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
2. Now let him prove it |
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sharp_stick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 09:49 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. How can you prove a negative? |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 10:02 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Okay, you got me there - but I maintain that Obama can do much more |
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sharp_stick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 10:21 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. There's nothing to disagree with there |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 12:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
22. Has he even claimed to have ended extraordinary rendition, though? |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
3. Empty words until we punish our own for attrocities already inflicted. |
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Soylent Brice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 09:54 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. beat me to it. n/t |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 09:54 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. +2 |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 10:03 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Prosecute those that inflicted it and THOSE THAT ORDERED IT |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 10:18 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Indeed and obviously. |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
24. Nothing has changed ---Cheney et al are still LIVING LARGE |
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Iowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 08:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
33. Yep. Empty words by a torturer protector... |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
6. Is he admitting that torture took place BEFORE he made the statement, |
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Selena Harris (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 01:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
26. Helgerson admits torture preceded CIA documents |
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Strong Atheist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 06:39 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Welcome to DU! |
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hmorehead (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
10. SOUNDS good, but GWB said that, too. |
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sharp_stick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 10:23 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. There's no way to change that |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 10:33 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. There are ways to make it less likely that it will happen in the future. |
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hmorehead (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 07:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
32. The problem is tha Clinton did it, GWB did it and the President is doing it , too |
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Old Hob (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 08:45 PM Response to Reply #10 |
34. actually, that sounds really really really bad. |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
14. Did his nose grow longer |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
27. Your clueless fucking dissing just |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
15. Obama's edict means that there will be no torture as long as he is president. |
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Winterblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. We understand that but every world leader and in fact every person throughout the world |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 10:56 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. It's one big giggly slumber party. Everybody's happy as long as no |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. Not necessarily. See Reply 22. And, of course, we need prosecutions to punish |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #15 |
29. If people who are secretley rendered to secret prisons are tortured, we will never know. |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
17. OK. So he prohibited torture on his "first day in office". Then what happened? |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
20. I'll give President Obama credit for a step in the right direction. Another one today |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
21. Prosecute the war criminal executive (Bush administration) |
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ThePantaloon.com (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 02:34 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. We second this |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
25. "Show me the indictments" |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
30. Obama is keeping rendition |
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