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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 03:25 PM
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U.N. condemns Brazil embassy harassment in Honduras
Source: Reuters


UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - The U.N. Security Council condemned "acts of intimidation" at Brazil's embassy in Honduras but did not discuss the wider issue of ousted President Manuel Zelaya's future at a meeting on Friday.

Zelaya has been sheltering in the Brazilian embassy since slipping back into the country on Monday, prompting a tense standoff with security forces surrounding the mission.

"We condemn acts of intimidation against the Brazilian embassy and call upon the de facto government of Honduras to cease harassing the Brazilian embassy," U.S. Ambassador and current Security Council President Susan Rice told reporters after a meeting on Honduras.

She said the situation of the Brazilian embassy was the primary focus of the meeting, rather than the broader situation in Honduras


Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/newsMaps/idUSTRE58O4NX20090925
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 06:08 PM
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1. The harasssment is a violation of the Geneva Convention.
Edited on Fri Sep-25-09 06:09 PM by L. Coyote
Zelaya's Foreign Minister, Patricia Rodas, is in New York and has asked permission to address the U.N. General Assembly in a slot perviously set aside for Zelaya.

The assembly passed a resolution on June 30 unanimously condemning the military coup in Honduras and demanding Zelaya's immediate return to power.

Rodas claimed Friday that police and soldiers fired tear gas into the Brazilian embassy to drive out Zelaya, his wife and about 70 supporters.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 06:11 PM
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2. The USA pee'd all over The Geneva Convention at GITMO and Abu Garib, they're only
following the worlds Superpower's lead. :(
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 06:13 PM
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3. And the US has used its veto to enable Israel's crimes
We have no moral standing in the world until we stop supporting the Occupation of Palestine.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 06:14 PM
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4. + shag our military forces out of two sovereign Muslim nations. eom
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 11:58 PM
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6. Our government is in this up their eyeballs.
Death Squads was down there before the coup. The plane used for the abduction fueled at our base. Now the Congressional Research Service is citing a golpista to justify the Honduran Congress when what the Congress did was plainly unconstitutional. And not just any golpista but the one who tried to pass off the fake resignation letter.

The fix is or was in. :shrug:
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 12:02 PM
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17. More likely than not.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 11:50 PM
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5. k&r n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 12:00 AM
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7. Did you see this? I give up on the thread but the information is revealing:
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 05:02 AM
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8. UN Security Council to Honduran Authorities: Back off Brazilian Embassy
Source: VOA

The U.N. Security Council held an emergency meeting on the situation in the Brazilian Embassy in Honduras, where ousted Honduran President Manuel Zelaya has been sheltering since Monday. The council condemned acts of intimidation and called on the defacto Honduran authorities to stop harassing the embassy.

Read more: http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-09-25-voa45.cfm



From Rabs - Latin America forum:

People are suffering from some sort of toxic poisoning with nose bleeding, urine bleeding, severe headaches, skin blistering and vomiting.

A Red Cross ambulance was just turned away by soldiers outside the embassy. A doctor representing Doctors Without Borders is not being allowed into the embassy.

Zelaya giving news conference. Said he has been wearing mask, showing hankerchief of person who suffered bleeding from the nose. Zelaya said he also has been wearing mask and has throat irritation and upset stomach.

A Dr. Marcos Jiron (wearing a mask) said blood tests are necessary to determine what the toxic chemicals are. Said a strange odor had been detected inside the embassy and people started feeling dizzy and that effects could be dangerous if people not treated in hospitals immediately.

Zelaya showing pictures of soldiers in patios of neighboring houses setting up noise equipment and cell phone interception devices.

This is live on

http://www.cholusatsur.com /

Person in embassy now saying a white, spraying truck has passed near the embassy earlier today and that soldiers had been withdrawn before spraying. People started feeling ill about two hours later.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 05:02 AM
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9. Link for DU Latin America Forum discussion on this
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 05:02 AM
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10. If I ran my own country, and somebody gassed one of my embassies, I might think it an act of war.
Edited on Fri Sep-25-09 08:16 PM by Selatius
You don't violate another nation's embassy. You just don't do that.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 05:02 AM
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11. I suspect the Pinochettis are going to find out that you don't fuck with Lula
whose country happens to be leading the UN Peacekeeping forces at the moment.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 05:02 AM
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12. Well, they really haven't shown much cluefulness right along in this thing.
So it's par for the course. Reminds me of the botched Venezuelan coup back in 2002, but worse. On the one hand they have held onto power longer, no troops hidden in the palace this time, got him out of the country quickly, but on the other hand we have had this mess in prime time stinking up the place for weeks and weeks ...

The thing I notice is they don't really seem to have had a plan, just brazen it out and rely on the weasels in State to keep the lid on.
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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 05:02 AM
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14. ugh.
Edited on Fri Sep-25-09 11:35 PM by earcandle
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 05:02 AM
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15. Bagooomba.
:hi:
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 03:30 PM
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19. You're right. Looks as if they intend to fill the President's seat until elections,
when they can put one of theirs in and start reversing the important ground gained by Zelaya on behalf of the people as soon as possible, including the raising of the minimum wage which was despised by the multinationals there.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 04:11 PM
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20. Yes, stall, stall, stall. That's about it.
It will be intesting to see who wants to recognize the new government and "look forward now" and when.
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 05:02 AM
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13. k and r
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 05:02 AM
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16. Reuters has this:
Zelaya demands presidency as U.N. condemns Honduras
Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:59pm EDT TEGUCIGALPA (Reuters) -

...

Speaking to a local television channel from inside the embassy, Zelaya accused police of using toxic gases to poison those inside, causing headaches and nose bleeds. Troops have blasted the embassy with high-intensity sound and marched outside, drawing protests from Brazil.

"We'll take this to mean clearly they don't want to hold any dialogue," Zelaya said, sporting his trademark cowboy hat.

Micheletti's administration denied a gas attack and said the strong smells of chemicals in the neighborhood of the embassy might have been caused by cleaning the streets.

/... http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE58O47R20090925?sp=true

...so they're a bit slow reporting the latest developments...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 12:25 PM
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18. I'm sure Pinochetti's people did say they were "cleaning the streets".
That's how much respect these motherf#ckers have for human life.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 07:25 PM
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21. The disgusting Miami Herald coverage of yesterday served to preemptively trivialize this crime...
Some you may remember the report that headlined Zelaya's alleged confusion (assuming the reporter was truthful) about whether the weapons used sound or radiation, and the attempt to make him seem crazy and make this crime of the golpistas sound like a hallucination.

Meanwhile, the same offensive weapon was being deployed in Pittsburgh!

Prior thread on GD:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6633432
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 07:44 PM
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22. Complete a-holes! They pander to a radical right-wing base of Cuban and Venezuelan expatriots.
It's impossible to believe Knight-Ridder would acknowledge any association with this newspaper. Their Spanish edition, El Heraldo Nuevo, also writes stories more convoluted than the English version Herald. They've been caught photo shopping news photos to misrepresent the Cuban government! Here's one of their masterpieces:

http://media.newtimes.com.nyud.net:8090/48673.0.jpg
Clues to Deception: In the doorway, there is a sharp variation in light between the right and left sides. Note the difference in perspective between the police officers and prostitutes. The police officers cast shadows. The prostitutes don't.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Listen Up, McClatchy
The most-honored Spanish newspaper in the United States is ethically challenged
By Chuck Strouse
Article Published Jul 27, 2006

A striking, five-column color photo was splashed across the Sunday, June 25 edition of El Nuevo Herald. It showed four spandex-clad prostitutes in Cuba hailing a foreign tourist. Just a few feet away, two policemen conversed with a little girl and a woman. The headline: "Hookers: The Sad Meat of the American Dollar."

The cops obviously didn't care about the working girls — a clear sign of the hypocritically wanton ways of Fidel Castro's Cuba.

Problem is, the picture was a fake. Indeed it was just the kind of manipulated combination of two images that prompted the Los Angeles Times to fire staff photographer Brian Walski in 2003. Walski, you may recall, altered two photos of an American soldier to make them appear as one, more dramatic image. Several papers unknowingly published the combo on their front pages, and Thom McGuire, a Hartford Courant assistant managing editor, said the incident made him "sick to my stomach."

El Nuevo's sin was worse. Its image — on page 27A — appeared with the caption "The government has proven incapable of confronting the dramatic phenomenon of prostitution" and a story about a book on Cuba's working girls by author Amir Valle.
More:
http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2006-07-27/news/listen-up-mcclatchy/
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martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 09:34 AM
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23. Lula should delcare war against the Pinochettis and invade
Edited on Sun Sep-27-09 09:35 AM by martymar64
I'm sure Brazil has a large enough and capable enough military to lay a little "shock and awe" on the Pinochettis.
They've been given their chance to give up power peacefully. Waging chemical warfare against the Brazilian Embassy should be reason enough for Lula to send bombers and missiles to hit Tegucigalpa.

Edited for spelling
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