U.N.'s Ban voices "grave concern" over Iran facility

[maddezmom]

Source: Reuters

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon voiced serious concern in a meeting with Iran's president on Friday that Tehran was building a new uranium enrichment facility.

(Ban) expressed his "grave concern about its (Iran's) activities related to continued uranium enrichment as demonstrated by the construction of a new uranium enrichment facility," Ban's press office said in a statement. "He emphasized that the burden of proof is on Iran."

"The Secretary-General reiterated his call on Iran to fully implement relevant Security Council resolutions as well as fully cooperate with the IAEA (International Atomic Energy Agency) toward resolving all outstanding concerns related to its nuclear program," the statement added.



Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE58P08V20090926

[ro1942]

1. Where is the concern over Israels weapons?

[wroberts189]

2. or better yet ...Pakistan's, India's, and North Korea ..who has actually detonated one. nt

[WriteDown]

3. Given that Israel has had nuclear weapons for a relatively long

time and they seem reluctant to use them, they receive more leeway. Some of the statements coming out of Iran seem more worrisome. When you say things like "we want to wipe you off the face of the Earth" and such, people tend to be a little more alarmed.

[AverageJoe5]

4. Did they really say that?

Did any Iranian leader actually say "we want to wipe you off the face of the Earth"? There have been allegations that Ahmadinejad said he wants to "wipe Israel off the map;" but some people knowledgeable in the Farsi language have said that was a mistranslation of what Ahmadinejad said; what he said was along the lines of "the Zionist REGIME will disappear" (like the Soviet communist REGIME disappeared).

[WriteDown]

5. He seems to be mistranslated every time he says....

anything.

Looks at all these mistranslations

# They have invented a myth that Jews were massacred and place this above God, religions and the prophets."

# "We ask the West to remove what they created sixty years ago and if they do not listen to our recommendations, then the Palestinian nation and other nations will eventually do this for them."

# "The real Holocaust is what is happening in Palestine where the Zionists avail themselves of the fairy tale of Holocaust as blackmail and justification for killing children and women and making innocent people homeless.

# "Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury."

# "Remove Israel before it is too late and save yourself from the fury of regional nations."

# "The skirmishes in the occupied land are part of a war of destiny. The outcome of hundreds of years of war will be defined in Palestinian land. As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map."

# "If the West does not support Israel, this regime will be toppled. As it has lost its raison d' tre, Israel will be annihilated."

# "Israel is a tyrannical regime that will one day will be destroyed."

# "Israel is a rotten, dried tree that will be annihilated in one storm.

[Chulanowa]

11. Thankfully for us, Shimon Peres spoke clear English when he said...

"the president of Iran should remember that Iran can also be wiped off the map." so, there's not exactly any moral high ground here on that score.

[WriteDown]

16. That quote was a reaction to what exactly?

:shrug:

[OnyxCollie]

6. Why should Israel use their nukes

when they have the US to do the dirty work?

"I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran," Clinton said. "In the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Vote2008/story?id=4698059&page=1

ob⋅lit⋅er⋅ate
to remove or destroy all traces of; do away with; destroy completely.

Is that like wiping off the face of the Earth?

Why shouldn't Iran be concerned about an attack? It would dually serve Israel and the Corporate States of Chevron to invade Iran. Bushco wasn't able to fully capitalize on the nationalism of 9/11 to take the Petroleum Acquisition World Tour all the way into Iran.

[WriteDown]

7. So a defensive action is now an offensive action?

"Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!"

We are also committed to defend Taiwan.

[OnyxCollie]

8. So "considering an attack" is the same as "attacking?"

The same way the US "defended' itself against Iraq?

Once again, WriteDown shows why the Bush doctrine makes him feel all tingly.

[WriteDown]

14. I'll bold it for you...

"I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran," Clinton said. "In the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

Translation:
If you're thinking about doing that, be forewarned.

[OnyxCollie]

24. You missed this part. Here, I'll bold it for you...

"I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran,"

Translation:
We will attack Iran.

(And yes, I am aware of the "if I'm the president" qualifier.)

"In the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

Translation:
When we attack Iran, we might use "defending Israel" as a justification, and we will fuck them up.

Sec. Clinton seems to be clear about attacking Iran. Why do you choose to see what is not there?

[Chulanowa]

10. "They seem reluctant to use them"

Yeeeeah, you think?

WriteDown... You'd kind of need a reason to use them before you could be said to be "reluctant" to use them.

For instance, in 1962 Russia put nuclear weapons ninety miles off the coast of Florida, and pointed them northward. In this situation, we can say "JFK was reluctant to use nuclear weapons"

So are you saying that Israel has reason to use nukes, and has been "holding back"?

Is this sort of like how other Israel supporters praise Israel's "restraint" in not conducting full-scale genocide in the Palestinian territories? 'Cause if so, it's going to cinch my opinion that Israel's American supporters are some truly crazy stupid motherfuckers.

[WriteDown]

17. You need a reason?

What kind of reason?

Bringing back the 13th imam isn't enough?

[Chulanowa]

18. Congratulations, you've won today's ignorant fucker championship

There are no prizes, but I suppose you have bragging rights now.

[WriteDown]

19. If you say so...

Kind of like no one ever murders unless there is a rational reason.

[Chulanowa]

20. You.. .DO realize you're talking about Israel, right?

I mean, okay, I can't really count on you to be the sharpest tool in the shed, but, goddamn, use some basic reading comprehension.

ugh.

[WriteDown]

21. We are?

Apparently the OP spelled it wrong. Only got 3 of the letters right. Geez, some people. :eyes:

[Chulanowa]

22. A post you may have missed

Given that Israel has had nuclear weapons for a relatively long time and they seem reluctant to use them, they receive more leeway.

Funny thing is... it's your own post.

[WriteDown]

31. Conflation...

Interesting tactic for you to use. Let's put it this way. If you're at your house making dinner and have onions to chop, you would probably give the knife to your pacifist father, or even to your slightly aggressive brother, but you probably wouldn't give it to your crazy uncle mel who just escaped from the mental institution.

So far Israel has not used nuclear weapons. I don't recall anywhere in recent memory where they have even detonated one. I do not trust Iran to be reluctant, especially given than past statements.

[Old Hob]

9. Where is the concern over France's nuclear weapons? Or Russia's

Or China's?

[Behind the Aegis]

25. Quick! Look over there!

[Chulanowa]

26. Yeah, look over there

At actual fucking nuclear weapons not subject to any sort of international scrutiny.

Glad to have you on board the reality train, Aegis. Sorry we didn't save you a seat, we simply weren't expecting you'd ever join us!

[Behind the Aegis]

27. Too bad you missed your stop.

When did Israel sign the NPT?

Edit: replace "to" with "too."

[Chulanowa]

28. Thanks for making the point for me

[Behind the Aegis]

29. I would say "you're welcome," but you made no point, as usual.

[Chulanowa]

30. I trust you're just as safe and secure about Pakistani and Indian nukes, of course

[Doremus]

12. Over-the-top-certifiable Kim Jong Ill not only has nuclear arms but has fired missiles

He acquired nuclear arms during Bushco's regime. He is as looney as Amadidejad or loonier.

Why didn't Junior and Darth Cheney threaten to bomb him?

Hmmm? No oil? No Israel pressuring for it? Why?

[OnyxCollie]

13. Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

Axis of Evil: Iraq, Iran & N. Korea. Which one of these is not like the other?

No economic variable in N. Korea = no capitalist imperialism.

[WriteDown]

15. Uh....

China?

[Chulanowa]

23. Much loonier, and unlike Ahmedinijad, he has military authority

Which is something that murder fanatic dumbfucks like to miss while they're ranting about Iran. Ahmedinejad can kick and scream and rant and demand and threaten all he wants, but unless The Supreme Leader agrees, that military isn't going anywhere. And Khamenei doesn't look like he's the least bit inclined to play along.

Kim Jong Il just has to say "shoot" and missiles are flying all over.