China formally begins probe into U.S. chicken parts

[denem]

Source: Reuters

BEIJING (Reuters) - China on Sunday formally launched an anti-dumping and anti-subsidy investigation into chicken parts imports from the U.S., two days after U.S. lawmakers agreed to end a gag order that prevented the U.S. from even considering importing Chinese cooked poultry.

China had said it would investigate chicken wings and feet, as well as automotive imports from the U.S., immediately after the Obama administration decided to impose hefty "safeguard" duties on Chinese-made tires.

"The Ministry of Commerce believes that this case meets the legal conditions and has decided to conduct an investigation of unfair trade practices like dumping and subsidizing of U.S. chicken products," the ministry said, adding that the case had been requested by Chinese chicken producers.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE58Q07S20090927

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You question rubber. Two can play that game.

[bhikkhu]

1. The chicken industry is one of the cruelest things ever devised

Not that I suspect this has anything to do with it, or that the Chinese would come up with a kinder domestic chicken industry, but I have no sympathy for the profits of those guys.

[ensho]

9. true

nt

[Psephos]

16. Take a look at the Chinese dog meat industry and you may change your mind

warning, there are some truly graphic pix here

http://www.all-creatures.org/anex/dog.html

http://www.chinasucks.org/xichang.htm

"Custom will reconcile people to any atrocity."
- G. B. Shaw

[bhikkhu]

18. Killing and butchering animals is never pleasant

I'd rather not demonize those who do, as that would be a very large number. In any case, if you eat meat you are complicit. That would be a much larger number, though its very easy for us in the US to know nothing about how that meat gets from the live animal to the shelf of the grocery store.

[onehandle]

2. What a joke! Impose 'hefty' duties on everything that comes out of that country.

In a few decades they will rule the world.

[fasttense]

3. No, 2 equals could play that game but what everyone is forgetting is that

The US and China are NOT equal trade partners.

Let's see in 2008 as reported by the US China business council, $409.2 billion worth of trade was conducted between the 2 countries. Of that total, $71.5 billion was US exports to China, about 17.5%.

So, China is going to threaten the US over 17.5% of the trade. Hmm, seems to me the guy with 82% has more leverage in this fight.

China needs our US markets our their economy will collapse. I say, let them stop trading with us and deal with the minor fall out.

[madokie]

4. I might add and that minor fall out is JOBS for you, me, family and friends

I try my damnedest to not buy from china but its getting harder and harder to do. I want us to concentrate on buying products from the America's, north and south. They are our true friends

[doc03]

6. I'm not saying you are wrong but I have been hearing

people say buy American for 40 years. In the meantime Walmart, the grandaddy of all importers, has grown to be the largest retailer in the world. Americans are greedy, give them a TV from China that costs $500 and an American TV $600, 9 times out of 10 they will buy the one from China. Take the American Free Choice Act, when the subject comes up among most Union workers they oppose it saying it will make prices go up at Walmart. A friend of mine that is a retired steelworker said his son makes less than $10 a hour and he couldn't afford to shop at a Union store and if it wasn't for Walmart people in this economy couldn't survive. Of course he fails to mention his daughter in law also works, they have a nice home, pool, a late model truck and car, a 4 wheeler and all the latest Chinese electronic toys. My dad worked in a steel mill, my parents rented for years before buying an old run down shack in 1950 and then in 1960 when my dad was 50 he built a new home. The few young people that get hired in the mill today have no work ethic for the most part and the first thing they want is to start out in life with all the things their parents worked a lifetime to get. Believe it or not the steel industry was doing very well about 1 1/2 years ago and the biggest problem we had was finding enough young people that could pass a drug test. Then of the ones hired you were lucky to get one out of 3 that is willing to work, they just think they are owed a paycheck for showing up.

[CrispyQ]

8. Everyone should watch the documentary "Walmart: The High Cost of Low Price."

Very informative movie. One segment was about how Walmart destroys local economies. (I'm watching it happen in my own small town.) They interviewed a young woman who had lost her job due to the fact that the company she worked for couldn't compete against Walmart. She admitted that people like her were part of the problem. She said that even though she knew shopping at Walmart hurt the local economy, hurt her personally (!) she still shopped there. She liked the low prices. And of course, now that she's out of a job, she needs the low prices. :eyes: It's the same as those who vote against their own best interests. How do you fight this type of thinking?

Another thing about Walmart that many people don't know is they go to manufacturers & tell them - you will move your manufacturing to China or we won't offer your products in our stores. They did this with Radio Flyer wagons & many others.

[amandabeech]

11. Yes, Walmart's forcing of jobs out of the country is despicable,

and deserves much more publicity.

I remember reading the same thing about hammers and Huffy bicycles.

The products were good quality and selling well, but still Walmart wanted cheaper.

Now of course, the products are often shoddy. They're not even worth what we're paying for them, and the money that we pay does not cycle back through our economy.

[amandabeech]

10. Why do you suppose that the young workers aren't prepared to work?

I've run into a bit of that myself over the years--really, I started to notice it among young lawyers in the late '80s and early '90s. I myself am 54, and I noticed it among those 5-10 years younger.

I've had to take temp work over the past couple of years since I returned to the work force following a personal crisis, and I've noticed it in people up to 30 years younger than I.

Of course, not all younger people are like that, but there really are quite a few.

I really can't account for it, and I'd be interested in your thoughts on the subject.

[doc03]

13. Seems simple to me the baby boomers have raised a

generation of wimps. Just go out in the morning and observe the kids catching the bus for school. I see parents sitting in the car with the kids at the end of a 100 foot driveway. I walked about 1/2 mile to school my first 8 years. In high school we rode the bus but still had to walk to the main road. One of my best friends lived on a farm, him his brother and sister got up at 5 am and milked the cows then walked 1/4 mile to the road to catch the bus. In the winter the schools has a 2 hour delay at the slightest sign of snow, I don't remember ever having a 2 hour delay. My entire 4 years in high school we never had a snow day. When this generation if it snows they report off, at the slightest illness they report off. I commuted 30 miles one way each day to work and never once took a day off for snow in 39 years. One time when we had a flood a few years ago I drove 40 miles extra to make it to work. That's not just me that goes for most of my older co-workers, the young ones live in town a mile away and claim they can't get out of the driveway. I am not condemning all of today's young people, many work hard and do good. I think we notice it more around here because there are no jobs so the cream of the crop just leave when they get out of school. The ones that stay here are the bottom of the barrel. When we hire we go through about 100 physicals to find 20 that can pass drug screening.

[shanti]

14. and i'll bet

that of those 80 that didn't pass their drug screen, it was marijuana....:eyes:

[Trajan]

5. There is something wrong with the statement "Probing chicken parts"

[UpInArms]

7. ewww! I guess it depends where you put the probe?

[Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel]

15. or what you use as a probe...

[Matariki]

19. 'Formally', no less.

[KakistocracyHater]

12. better be on the lookout for those fake eggs from China, it's not just

melamine in dog & cat & infant food. http://tinyurl.com/fake-eggs-1
http://www.danwei.org/internet/beware_of_fake_eggs.php

what with anti-freeze as a sweetener, in cough syrup & cold/flu meds....

[Romulox]

17. I think a lil' trade war would be an excellent development. nt